The gym I worked out at had alot of people going for competition, and using every cheat method the professionals used. Towards the peak of their intake, you stayed out of their way as they were borderline manic. One guy put his arm through a glass case because they were out of his protein mix. There were women doing the same thing with testosterone, walking around buffed, with little goatees! Most of those cheaters are long gone from kidney problems, and other health problems. My old gym owner at 33, had had 3 heart attacks from heavy steroid use. He died in August of heart failure at 42*. I couldn't agree with you more......