Spanking Raises Chances of Risky, Deviant Sexual Behavior

[DeservingBitch]

Spanking Raises Chances of Risky, Deviant Sexual Behavior

They say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[myinnerslut]

if they say so... i was never spanked as a child, but would kill for one right now

 

[YourCaptor]

Wow, I only had to read the first line to laugh at this one.

Researchers have uncovered another damaging consequence of spanking: (gasp, no, now my cons will outweigh the pros) risky sexual behaviors, (you mean like knife play?) or even sexual deviancy, (you mean like a foot fetish?) when the child grows up.

People and their priorities.

 

[CurlyKat]

Somehow I really doubt that my current interests would be any different if I hadn't been spanked.

 

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, let's face it, these type of people think sex is risky unless done at the pre-arranged and regularly scheduled time of 11PM Saturday night with the lights out, partially clothed, double bed (not a waterbed or kingsize), missionary position and while apologising for their animal lust profusely throughout...what they need and probably secretly lust for is that spanking they declare so risky, but as they think it is impossible to hope for, they don't want anyone else getting a thrill from it either!!

Catalina

 

[FurryFury]

I'd like to thank my Mom and Dad!

LMAO!

 

[snowy ciara]

LOL, let's face it, these type of people think sex is risky unless done at the pre-arranged and regularly scheduled time of 11PM Saturday night with the lights out, partially clothed, double bed (not a waterbed or kingsize), missionary position and while apologising for their animal lust profusely throughout...what they need and probably secretly lust for is that spanking they declare so risky, but as they think it is impossible to hope for, they don't want anyone else getting a thrill from it either!!

Catalina

And only if they're sincerely contrite and humbly repent the following morning at the worship service of choice.

What a bunch of BS.

 

[intothewoods]

I was never spanked as a child. It's almost annoying. I want to be able to blame someone!

 

[Light Ice]

My partner was never spanked as a child, her home was more constructive than most. Her parents were loving and supportive, and she was a beautiful, happy, well-adjusted and successful young woman. She's a picture of dignity and class, compassionate and tolerant enough to love a lout like me.

And she soundly and thoroughly loves to be spanked, the rougher the better, until she's making indecipherably erotic sounds in the back of her throat.

This study is correlative. They ask deviants "were you spanked as a child" and crunch some numbers. But spanking is still very common in this country, particularly in the southern spheres.

I'm not convinced this study is accurate in its premise.

 

[SweetGigi]

And only if they're sincerely contrite and humbly repent the following morning at the worship service of choice.

What a bunch of BS.

I love how things of this nature always gets lumped onto the religiously devout.

*sighs*


It isn't just the religious zealot who have these sort of *shocked look* closed minds. My atheist lesbian landlord who is raising two children under the age of 14 in her home with her lover condemns my lifestyle. She even had the audacity to threaten to tell my boss (who is just as ultra liberal and lacking of 'faith' but also down-casting towards my lifestyle) that I was a sexual deviant and shouldn't be trusted to not warp their son's impressionable mind. Luckily with a few quick counter threats and some heinous 'judgements' of my own she quickly backed down.

Just as there are bad apples within BDSM who clearly give the general public a bad taste about our lifestyle, there are the same sort of bad apples in religious faith too. Just because it is the only viewpoint you see, doesn't mean it is the only one that's out there. Not every kinkster is a murderer and not every person who attends church regularly is Jerry Falwell.

 

[DVS]

I don't mind studies like this being done, except when the people doing the study are on the outside, and they still have an agenda for the results.

I also wasn't bothered by the results being conclusive in four studies, but was troubled to read Straus was the author of all four studies. Independent and nonbiased studies they weren't.

Over and over I find studies like this, where the authors seem to be in search of their name being added to text books, or medical journals to the point the research is tainted or at least the data isn't collected in a pure method.

I'd like to know who these studies talked to, and what were the ages, backgrounds and if they were from two parent homes, etc. What were the sibling’s ages and genders? Were all of the kids dealt with in the same manor? Did they all grow up to be sexual deviants?

I suspect that it's likely that some data was thrown out, because the child didn't fit the cookie cutter result Straus's four studies needed. And, what was the control? If you were spanked as a child, but didn't grow up as a sexual deviant, you were lucky? What about the child that wasn't ever spanked and still grew up to be sexually deviant?

From the reports, only one spanking could be enough to taint the sexual outcome of a child. And, what was considered a spanking for a toddler? One swat? Two? This is enough to damage the sexually vanilla mind of the child?

My take on this is the subjects were more than likely baby boomers. Being a member of the boomers, ours was a generation of sexual exploration. The 60s and 70s...free love and open affection. Doesn't Straus think any of this might have had a role in our sexual development?

Our parents were from a far stricter upbringing. And, of the baby boomer generation, I'd guess there were quite a few that were spanked as a child. It was just a way of life, back then.

The things we were trying sexually were seen as quite deviant, I'm sure. Masturbation was not talked about and even condemned in many homes, if not communities. A lot of parents weren't even equipped emotionally to talk to their children about sex. I learned about it from a magazine. My parents never talked to me about it, ever. I seriously doubt their parents talked to them about sex, either.

And, when it all boils down, what's wrong with a kinky sex life? I'm guessing Straus is very much vanilla on the outside, but it's also quite possible he has a few sexually kinky thoughts about being spanked, after hearing some of the stories brought out by his "studies". No wonder he been researching corporal punishment for 30 years.

 

[SweetGigi]

See, DVS, this is why I love you.

Have I mentioned how irritated I am when stories like this one use the irritated and pejorative term "Sexual Deviance" and then behave a though it's needfully an awful thing? The story contradicts itself. *points* "90 percent of parents spank." If ANYTHING that number has gone DOWN in the last 50 years, so why hasn't the amount of 'sexual deviance' done likewise? In my experience, peoples kinks have a lot more to do with their life while they're in puberty than their life while they're in diapers. More than likely this study just surveyed a set number of kinksters and simply asked, 'where you spanked as a child?' Like DVS said, there is no based control or sited source of outside research. Points and studies like this are moot and damaging.

 

[snowy ciara]

I love how things of this nature always gets lumped onto the religiously devout.

*sighs*


It isn't just the religious zealot who have these sort of *shocked look* closed minds. My atheist lesbian landlord who is raising two children under the age of 14 in her home with her lover condemns my lifestyle. She even had the audacity to threaten to tell my boss (who is just as ultra liberal and lacking of 'faith' but also down-casting towards my lifestyle) that I was a sexual deviant and shouldn't be trusted to not warp their son's impressionable mind. Luckily with a few quick counter threats and some heinous 'judgments' of my own she quickly backed down.

Just as there are bad apples within BDSM who clearly give the general public a bad taste about our lifestyle, there are the same sort of bad apples in religious faith too. Just because it is the only viewpoint you see, doesn't mean it is the only one that's out there. Not every kinkster is a murderer and not every person who attends church regularly is Jerry Falwell.

I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to joke around here? But it's okay if it's a mod? My apologies for offending you. I personally love how the tenor of the forum has changed to "make snarky assumptions about a person's motivations".

I am well aware that the religious right aren't the only one's lumping us all in the same barrel and I am aware that not all members of religious world are like that. My comment was a rider on Cat's joke. After all, my parents, the Anglican priest and his wife have been happily D/s and presumable engaging in deviant sex since before I've been on this planet. And not spanking their kids. They've managed to raise a monk, a bisexual kinkster, a nice straight and not narrow son, one who's sort of jerk and me. If spanking is supposed to make you kinky, it's a good thing that I wasn't spanked as a child; there's no telling how "sick" and "twisted" I'd be.

In a more serious vein, my doubt in the veracity in the study is that the person who did the study has been riding this "spanking = deviant sex" hobby horse for four surveys. It bears thinking about, but I'd prefer to see independent confirmation before I take it as gospel, if you will. We'll probably never know what makes an individual kinky, and some people probably are pre-disposed to it because of stuff like this. But I'd be surprised if we can ever be definitive about it.

I'll be sure to either tag my jokes as jokes or stay out of "serious" threads in the future.

 

[snowy ciara]

I don't mind studies like this being done, except when the people doing the study are on the outside, and they still have an agenda for the results.

All joking aside, that was my issue too. It seems like Strauss has this agenda. I don't like spanking because it teaches a kid it's okay to hit when you're angry, and that's reason enough to avoid it. There's enough reason to dislike spanking without inventing reasons to avoid it.

Edited because I forgot to spell check, and there's only one "l" in "dislike".

 

[EmpressFi]

when I showed this to Master he said, "well that explains it... I was spanked." So I wrote back, "But I wasnt."

I think it's an interesting subject though

 

[00Syd]

I was spanked exactly once as a kid.

I guess that was enough? lol

The person who conducted the study seems damn desperate to get it publicized. Really, there are more pressing issues.

 

[Ladythunder]

Frankly I was flat out beaten as a child.

Yep, I love to recieve spankings as an adult. I enjoy giving them even more. Does that make me a sexual deviant? In some peoples minds, yes it does. Unfortunately, while it is my belief that almost everybody has a little kink in them, whether they act on it or not, be it the tamest to the most 'perverse' there are a lot of people that condem others.

Sorry, but YKINOK is not my style. I think live and let live is the way to go in matters both sexual and not. If everyone adopted such a style of thought, the world would be a better place all the way around.

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As for the harmful effects of spanking on children, there will always be people jumping on their soapbox screaming about how wrong it is, personally, I dont see it. kids are kids, and they turn out the way they will, no matter if you tan their hides or not

 

[madetotakeit]

I can't give credence to a study that discounts the statistic of 90% of people do this and yet it has an effect on the outcome. The study IMO is obviously skewed to gain headlines (mission accomplished) and to gain support from the conservatives who tend to have deeper pockets.

I was spanked until the age of three when my parents said I looked around at them without a tear in my eye with a look that said, "Are you done yet?" Between that time and my teen years punishments were doled out with a belt. Do I think this is at the core of why I have found that I enjoy pain? No, I don't. The farthest I could stretch the effect it had is that it conditioned me to handle pain by repeated exposure. Spanking did not put any deviant drives into my mind. IMO they were always there.

This came up at work last night. I had to slowly bow out of the conversation when I started getting the "you are awfully opinionated on this topic and it is making me uncomfortable" looks.

 

[DeservingBitch]

It isn't just the religious zealot who have these sort of *shocked look* closed minds. My atheist lesbian landlord who is raising two children under the age of 14 in her home with her lover condemns my lifestyle.

Religious zealot sure ain't the only people who see kinky sex as 'deviant'. And yep, I've met more than one lesbians in my life who think that the only appropriate form of sex is holding hands -- or something like that. But saying that religious zealot condemn sex is NOT the same thing as saying that all religious people condemn sex, NOR that only religious people condemn sex.

In a more serious vein, my doubt in the veracity in the study is that the person who did the study has been riding this "spanking = deviant sex" hobby horse for four surveys.

This, in the academic world, is actually quite common. Most 'scholars' come up with one 'original' idea, which they then proceed to spin around and recycle throughout their career. That's how we get the 10 publications per year we need on our file to get tenure and promotions.

Me, cynical about academia? Nooooooo.

Back to the topic, I was spanked as I child, and yes, I think it is probably one of the many things that made my sexuality what it is. I also used to play dress up with my mother's clothes. My all time favorite was to put on her heels and walk around the house, pretending to be a grown up lady. Where's the study blaming this common form of child play for my foot/shoe fetish?