Something Good in politics?

[Colleen Thomas]

I thought I might ask, does anyone have anything good to say about either candidate? I noted in one thread that it seems the two parties here in the U.S. are more concerned with telling us why the other guy is a louse than they are with telling us why their man is the man for the job.

SnP posed the question of why Kerry does deserve your vote and that thread fell off the first page with hardly a whimper.

So in this thread I am asking if anyone has anything positive to say about either candidate, without couching it in terms of as opposed to his opponent.

I know it's customary for the thread starter to go first, but I find them both to be odious and have seen nothing out of either that would merit an attaboy.

-Colly

 

[minsue]

Hmmm Having trouble on this one myself.

Kerry (Catholic) defied the Vatican and refused to stop opining that a woman has the right to an abortion. That's gotta be worth something.

 

[Guest]

I know it's customary for the thread starter to go first, but I find them both to be odious and have seen nothing out of either that would merit an attaboy.

Not much of an invite, Colly.

Perdita

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Re: Re: Something Good in politics?

Not much of an invite, Colly.

Perdita

No dita, but I don't really want a partisan screaming match, I just wondered if anyone had anything honestly good to say about either. Since I don't I was honest up front. I really hope some of the more sure supporters of either side will come forward with what they find good in their candidate as opposed to what they find awful in the other guy.

I don't really want a political fight, just honestly curious.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Something Good in politics?

if anyone had anything honestly good to say about either.

No.

Both are from Yale bone and skull secret society (closet gays).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1222721,00.html

 

[Guest]

They both wear clothes?

No, sorry, that's just facetious.

Lou

 

[Liar]

They both wear clothes?

Maybe Kerry should do his campaign in the buff, with the slogan The New Emperor's Clothes?

At least it would get my attention. I'm too far from the practical technicalities of american politics to understand anything but their foreign affairs policices. It all seems so....person oriented.

#L

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Kerry was a war hero who then had the courage to stand up in the face of tremendous pressure and oppose a war he saw as wrong and immoral. History has proved him right.

I know that Colly sees this as some kind of betrayal of the armed forces, but to me it shows a sense of deep morality and courage.

Besides, as a Catholic, Kerry is a minority. I like the idea of a minority president. I think it makes him more sensitive to injustice.

---dr.M.

 

[tolyk]

As an outsiders opinion, I personally don't know much about american government in general, but I personally never thought Clinton did that bad of a job myself *grin* But he can't run again can he? (I know that only the two are running for this term, and I've only heard bad about the both of them as well..)

I've never really been interested in politics until this year really, but the questions I have noone has seemed able to answer. I'll have to be hitting the history books and going back on the forming of governments itself I suppose and just read everything about every government form ever created and all types of civilizations *shrug* Might get my answers there. Or if not, maybe at least figure out a better way to run a country and enter politics myself *wink*

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Kerry was a war hero who then had the courage to stand up in the face of tremendous pressure and oppose a war he saw as wrong and immoral. History has proved him right.

I know that Colly sees this as some kind of betrayal of the armed forces, but to me it shows a sense of deep morality and courage.

Besides, as a Catholic, Kerry is a minority. I like the idea of a minority president. I think it makes him more sensitive to injustice.

---dr.M.

thanks Doc,

As I said, I didn't open this thread to start any arguments, I just wanted to see if there were positives for thier candidates in people's minds or if everyone is voting more against the other guy than for thier candidate.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

Tolyk, that's an admirable goal (the learning part ), I wish you well.

I have the same thoughts about Kerry as Mab. I also agree with Min. Defying 'the' church is a big deal, esp. the way Kerry did it. You really need to be a pre-1960's Catholic to understand that. Kerry has said some things that give me pause, but he's not said or done anything that gives me the gut-wrenching reaction I have when Bush speaks, looks at the camera or acts. So far I will be voting for Kerry with as much confidence as I have, vs. merely anti-Bush.

Perdita

 

[KarenAM]

What the doc said about Kerry.

Bush quit drinking. This takes a real measure of personal strength. I still think he's possibly the worst president in the history of the republic, however, so don't regard this as an endorsement of the man.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

What the doc said about Kerry.

Bush quit drinking. This takes a real measure of personal strength. I still think he's possibly the worst president in the history of the republic, however, so don't regard this as an endorsement of the man.

No endorsements here. And hopefully no arguments. Just an honest good word about the candidate if you have one

-Colly

 

[Boota]

I like Kerry's views on trying to curb outsourcing. It is killing our economy. He wants to add 3 million jobs in his first 500 days. (Roughly the same amount of time that those 3 million jobs were lost.) Kerry understands that making a hamburger doesn't qualify as a "manufacturing" job. He has proposed creating jobs through a manufacturing jobs credit, investing in new energy industries, restoring technology, and stopping layoffs in education. He wants to rollback Bush's tax cuts for the richest Americans and to end special tax benefits to companies who ship their jobs out of the U.S. He wants to make sure that corporations will be held accountable for their actions. To the workers, the shareholders, and the consumers.

Like Dr. M, I like the idea that he is a decorated war hero who has expressed outrage at a miscarriage of our military power. I think he has a better understanding of a soldier's view than our current president. If he is elected he will inherit a war that is deteriorating every day. A soldier's experience just might be what is needed to fix this mess. If it can be fixed. Kerry has a feasible plan to win the peace, which is just as important as winning the war.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Tolyk, that's an admirable goal (the learning part ), I wish you well.

I have the same thoughts about Kerry as Mab. I also agree with Min. Defying 'the' church is a big deal, esp. the way Kerry did it. You really need to be a pre-1960's Catholic to understand that. Kerry has said some things that give me pause, but he's not said or done anything that gives me the gut-wrenching reaction I have when Bush speaks, looks at the camera or acts. So far I will be voting for Kerry with as much confidence as I have, vs. merely anti-Bush.

Perdita

thank you dita

-Colly

 

[minsue]

Kerry enlisted. That means something to me. He was financially very well off and could have kept up college (and other) deferments pretty much indefinitely, but he enlisted after graduation because it was, in his opinion, the right thing to do.

That has always impressed me. I would not have done it.

 

[snooper]

Forget Bush and Kerry, "Something good in politics" is the very close to being the Platonic form of all oxymorons.