Some Passionate & hate mail on my Harry Potter Story

Do you think the hate mail is justified?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • No

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • Don't now/ It's a free world

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • nj13 is one sik pervert

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Total voters
    9

nj13

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These are some of THE INTERETING FEDBACKI GOT ON MY HARRY Poter & other STORIES.
I hope you read the whole post. It is pretty passionate
;):D

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my reply is below your message.

syb sephecT <******> wrote:

you're the one who wrote "harry's wet dream" right? if
you're not, i sincerely apologize for this e-mail.

please, please tell me that you wrote this fic as a
plebe fic? as a joke? it's absolutely horrendous!
there is no plot. there isn't even an attempt at a
storyline, so categorizing this as a PWP might be
appropriate.

even as a PWP, though, it fails miserably. the sex
scenes are repetetive, and quite blatantly, stupid.
the characterization doesn't exist, and the grammar
and style are atrocious. you repeat the same words
multiple times, and it sounds awful. this looks like a
dyslexic 12 year old made an attempt at writing smut.

please, please, get a beta reader, so you can produce
something worthwhile! if you've a problem with me
emailing this to you, do let me know, because you did
ask for feedback.

gothangelic
******

hi,

Yes, I wrote that gem & a lot more. check out my other stories at my geocities site.

All I can say is I write stories/trash/porn to get kinky feedbacks. It is something sexual. I get my jollies on the feedabcks.

I have had long & passionate conversations with a user name gemma about it.

I am providing that & other feedbacks on my stories below. :-

My long & passionate conversation with Gemma on my stories
********

gema wrote :-


But as someone who cares nothing for language, or stories why? It doesn't make sense to get feedback on something if you admit you don't write it because you enjoy *writing* just because you like the..er, situations. Does knowing people have read it make you happy? I don't understand. I don't get how something without even proper spelling or any literary devices being written can make you happy when you get feedback? To me it looks like you put no time or effort into your writing, and the reason it makes me mad is because some of us spend a lot of time doing it. Maybe I just have a different perception of the appreciation of writing.

I'm sure you do. I can't comment as I haven't read anything else you've written, since the concept of incest is disgusting. And your story is about your sister. But see my point, people don't like the way you have treated someone elses character. That's *why* you get mostly hate mail for the Harry story. J.K put a long time into making up Harry and co. It's her lifes work. We appreciate this (I know you do too, don't get mad), so when someone deconstructs that work and post stuff like you did, people get angry at the neglect of the characters. Does that explain why we are pissed off? And anyway, I flamed you once. I am sorry. I hate flaming and wish I hadn't done it now, as I could have had a rational conversation with you.

Sites like that are made for porn, they don't really care.

It's a free world is it? Then why can't I wear shorts and a t-shirt if I visit Egypt, or any other muslim country? Because I'm, a girl. How free is that? Why is Nelson Mandella still in jail? Because he objects to his countries' leadership. Why was there such a big deal about those two cricketers in Zimbabwe? Because they defied the rules of Magarbi (or however that's spelled). The world is most definately not free. You are American, aren't you? The Western world takes freedom for granted. Remember that.

Yes, you have the "right" to write. Whether or not posting it is the right thing to do...another matter.

~XM
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: whatever


I want to get feedback becoz I want to know how people feel about my story.

Sites like literotica,asstr are porn sites. That is how I view them. Frankly, the kind of stories I have seen posted on these sites will make my Harry story look like kiddie stuff.

You may not beliieve it, but I actually get some nice feedbacks on my 'trash'. Though, I admit I have got largely hate mail for my Harry story. But the feedback on my other stories has not been THAT BAD.

I can not understand as to why people like you are so pissed off on my treatment of Harry story. If you think it is trash, JUST IGNORE IT. Why the hell do you have to go on & on about flaming me for that stuff?

The sites where I posted the story on do not seem to find them THAT objectionable. Otherwise they would not have accepted the story.

How can you order me around to post what you call 'shit' on the net.

Contrary to what you say, IT IS A FREE WORLD!

I am just writing what you call 'trash'. I have the right to write & post what I feel like as long as I post them on the ADULT SITES, which I have done.

I guess this is going to be a dialogue between the deaf.

~nj13guy

Gemma wrote:

But why get feedback if you acknowledge you aren't a writer. Those sites are for writer's to get feedback. Not perverts to find other perverts to perv with. Oh and on the Holy Bible...there are Bible fic you know? Just telling you they exist. Anyway, I never said HP was not to be fucked with. I read fanfiction. I write fanfiction. I write slash. But I don't write TRASH! Because I write as opposed to randomly place words like "pussy," "cock," and "sweetie," around a few common articles. (Articles being words like "the" and "An" etc.)

Thanks for removing the link.

I will do what I think is right, even if it pisses you off. Don't stop writing shit. Just stop posting it on the net.

It's not a free world.

~XM
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: whatever


I put the story on the net becoz I want to get feedback on the story. Also, I get a kick out of seeing the story online. Harry Potter is not the Holy Bible which can't be screwed around with.

I have removed the geocities link from my fictionalley page.

I can't do anything more than that.

You do what you think is right.

But, I am not gonna close my geocities page or STOP writing those kind of stories.

It's a free world.

Peace

~nj13guy

Gemma wrote:

Thank you for a proper response.

I don't have a problem with free speech. I have a problem with the fact that you wish to display this stuff. Okay, so you admit you are someone who wants to write smut. Fine, write smut. The reason I have a problem with it is because you have chosen to use characters from J.K.Rowling's novels in this way. Smut in itself is not essentially wrong. But why use these particular characters? The sites do warn underage users, but how many net warnings have you taken heed of in your life? Hell, I know I ignore real warnings. Young people especially will ignore warnings. What I don't get is why you insist on posting up stuff on a writer's site when you say you're not a writer and don't intend to be. Surely if this stuff is just for your own pleasure, can't you keep it on your own computer? The Harry Potter series is a literary work. I just cannot understand why you want to use her characters if you're going to disregard all the chara cterisation already set out for you. Why? Because it'll get more readers than if you write your own characters? If this story simply was about your own characters I'd have less of a problem with it, because kids from the Harry Potter fandom wouldn't likely come across it. Although to be completely honest, I still have a problem with the language. But that's beside the point and I won't pursue that line of reasoning any further.

I don't have any issues with the pictures. I think they're perhaps a little indecent, but no, they're not perverse.

This is not about free speech at all. I never said that you can't write this stuff. Whether or not you should is a different matter, so fuck you too.
So why am I a hypocrit? I am not writing this kind of stuff, and then criticising you for it? If I were, then I would be being hypocritical of you. I'm not. I'll give you that I am judging you, maybe wrongly, but you haven't given me any reason to think anything more of you. Besides, "You have got no fucking right to pass moral judgement on me.
It's a free world..." if it's a free world, I can pass judgement on anyone I want. But yes, it is a free world where in the West (USA for you I'm assuming), elsewhere in the world this kind of hmm...writing would get you into a lot of shit. So don't automatically assume everyone has the same right to free speech the USA does.

Flames do not make me happy. I don't get any kind of pleasure out of flaming. I get flames too you know. I've dealt with nasty stuff, so no, it doesn't make me remotely happy you get them. But I do think it proves my point that this kind of story isn't something people want to see.
To spell it out. My main problem is that you can get from FAP to your site, and from your site to the smut site:
"remove my geocities link from fiction alley"

Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: whatever


hi sweetie pie,

I do not understand as to why you should have a problem with my right to free speech?

I do not pretend to be a writer. I admit I write perverted stuff. That is why I submitted the story on a smut site like literotica and snitchfiction. These sites warn underage users from reading the stories.

I admitted to heavenzangels on fictionalley that it was wrong of me to put up a story on my geocities webpage where It could be accessed by underage users. So, I removed the story from the geocities webpage.

As for the pictures on the geocities webpage, I did not make them. I simply took them from the net & put them on my page. I do not think the pictures are perverse. Maybe the comments on the pics are objectionable, but they are not very bad.

So, I do not understand your rants.

If you do not like them, ignore the site.

But, You have got no fucking right to pass moral judgement on me.

It's a free world.

The only concession I am willing to make is that I will remove my geocities link from fiction alley. I agree that the pics & some of my comments on the geocities webpage may not be suitable for underage kids.

But, I am notgoing to be apologetic about my geocities webpage. If you can't handle my right to freedom of speech, FUCK YOU!

btw, here is another hate mail I got about the Harry story. I hope it makes hypocrites like you happy.

This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 02-03
This feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments:

You're a nasty son of a bitch, you know that? Go to hell you asshole!
People like you should die! You have NO BRAIN!
**
~ nj13guy

Gemma wrote:

I know you think emailing me like this will either scare me away and stop me trying to get you to not write, or piss me off. Well, it won't. No matter how much you underline it or bold it or make it red, I don't give a fuck. My sole purpose here is to stop you getting this perverted trash onto places where young people could find it.

I don't feel guilt. If I did I wouldn't tell you about the various places I have reported you to. Or that I have warned lots of people away from your site.

I don't care if you keep emailing me crap. I'll do something about it. I don't care if you flame me, or perv at me, it makes no difference. I am still going to stop you. So I can't stop you writing it...well, maybe I can, they look for internet perverts you know, and prosecute them? But all I'm going to do is get it off the net, or away from FictionAlley.

And why would I like your pathetic attempt at stringing a few words together? You can clearly see I value language and literature by the way I write in full sentences. If I wanted to read a trashy smut novel, I'd buy one from Mills and Boon. And since I doubt you know what Mills and Boon is, it's a publisher of romance novels.

And I challenge you this time, try to respond to at least one of the things I have said in this email. I know, reading is hard for people like yourself.
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: Smut or perving?


hi cutie pie,

I love these emails from you. They make me soooo hard.

Last nite I jerked off thinking about you. I took out a print out of your email. Then I jerked off while reading that email.

I wish you would send me a pic of yours.

btw, I am writing the 4th chapter of my harry story. your emails have just given me soo many ideas.

I know that you like my stories deep down there. You just dont want to feel guilty.

So you send me these emails telling me I am a fucking pervert. (which I am).

I guess you are trying to lessen your feelings of guilt.

if that make you cum off, you are most welcome to keep sending me the emails.

do tell ur girlfriends about me. telll them to send me similar hate mails.

your lover & admirer

nj13guy

Gemma wrote:

You can't frighten me away.

I will not describe myself to you. You can't think about me if you don't know who I am.

This is not the last you will hear from me. As that last email you sent me can be considered sexual harrassment. Or just general harrassment in fact. So watch what you say to me.

I know you're just trying to irritate me into flaming you again by sending me reviews, but I think that just proves what a sick fuck you are, and that you need help. Go see a psychiatrist or something, and please, at least try to understand the point I have been trying to make. I know, lesser intelligence can make it difficult to comprehend the language I am using. Perhaps if I tried to speak in netspeak you'd get it.
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Smut or perving?


hi sweetie pie,

nice link u sent me.

have you got any sex links which you like? I am a big fan of worldsex & asstr.org website.

I know I am a fucking pervert. But, I also want to get similar emails like yours.

I get sooo horny when I read hate mails like yours. I just start getting soo hard. I had to jerk off after reading your email. Can you describe yourself? I hope you are a girl. I am going to be thinking about you while masterbuating in the future.

I get so horny when I get hate mails like yours.

please keep mailing, my sweetie pie.

here are some of teh comments on my harry story. I hope you like them.

This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 02-03
This feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments:

This is the most disgusting piece of shit I've ever seen in my entire
life. I can't believe that you'd go so low as to exploit children -
whether fictional or not - in this offensive manner. Get a fucking life,
loser.

Comments:

Interesting story. :) Are you gonna write more? I love slashy stories
about control...I like your drawings, too. Very sexy.

~Stained Lips

This feedback was sent by:

Comments:

wow. those pictures on your site are so awesome. they made me cum right
there! good work. i really want more stories of hermione and draco.


Gemma wrote:

Fine. If you won't listen to my advice. I suggest you visit this place.


And other than that, all I have to say is your perverse writings will not go forgotten by me. You admit to being a "fucking pervert," but you blatantly can't read properly besides your inability to use language, or else you would have got my point in the first email. BE A PERVERT WHERE NO ONE ELSE CAN SEE YOUR TRASH. There. Does that make my point clear to you?
----- Original Message -----
From: nj13guy
To: Gemma
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: Smut or perving?


hi sweetie pie,

YES, i am a fucking pervert.

so what's your point??

by the way, harry potter ch. 4 i on its way.

i hope you like it.

bye sweetie

Gemma wrote:

But my point is this is not smut, it's just perverse. And if you enjoyed being a smut *writer* you would give a fuck about spelling and grammar, (It's spelled GRAMMAR) because sentence construction is getting the story across to the audience. There are plenty of good, well written fics around, and to be good they need something more than "everyone rapes Hermione, in no coherent order, without any reason, and without following on from the first part." If this really is just for you to get your "jollies" then couldn't you keep it to yourself on your computer? You realise the site is accessible from Fiction Alley park, and therefore accessible to people far younger than you. And that in itself is a violation of the terms of FAP.

Also, if your aim is for your own amusement, why do you have to use Harry Potter characters? Make up your own to perv on. Using this series, surely you realise kids go looking for stuff on HP? It's blatantly obvious you have no desire to keep the characters IN CHARACTER so why bother using them at all?

If you really don't give a fuck about any of these things, how can you call yourself a writer? You're obviously just a fucking pervert.

Please don't address me as sweetie pie. You do not know me, and for that I am thankful.




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This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 02-03
This feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments:

You're a nasty son of a bitch, you know that? Go to hell you asshole!
People like you should die! You have NO BRAIN!

*************
Comments:

Sick fuck. How can you bear to write this trash, and say it's by you?
I'd be ashamed to admit to writing such inanely disgusting drivel.

Is this even from the same story as "chapter one?" Where did Lucius go?
How come Harry and Ron are so madly in love with Hermione after
confessing their love for each other? What is with the random capitalisation?
Are you aware sentences with beginnings and ends only have capitals at
the beginning unless there's a name or noun?

<with Her & started> the word is AND. If your writing you never use &.
But I guess this isn't writing, is it? It's just sick and disturbing
shit. There is no story, there is no plot, you don't use proper grammar
or even spelling! "Cumming," since when was that a word? You seem to be
so obsessed with it I'd at least think you could spell it correctly.

Save us all, stop writing this plebian shit.
************
This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 02-03
This feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments:

This is the most disgusting piece of shit I've ever seen in my entire
life. I can't believe that you'd go so low as to exploit children -
whether fictional or not - in this offensive manner. Get a fucking life,
loser.
******
This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 01
This feedback was sent by:

Comments:

Interesting story. :) Are you gonna write more? I love slashy stories
about control...I like your drawings, too. Very sexy.

~Stained Lips
******
u are really really very very wrong ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
******

This message contains feedback for: nj13
About the submission: Harry's Wet Dream Ch. 01
This feedback was sent by:

Comments:

wow. those pictures on your site are so awesome. they made me cum right
there! good work. i really want more stories of hermione and draco.

******
Hey,

I just wanted to send you an owl to say that I read and enjoyed your
story
"Harry's Wet Dream" that you posted to ASSM. It was quite erotic, and
I
very much enjoyed the slash aspect of it.

The only thing about it that is puzzeling is Malfoy's taunt about Harry
being gay and can't wait till his father finds out. Granted, it's a
dream
and it sounds like the type of thing that Malfoy would probably say,
but
Lucius was in the room as well and, if being gay is bad in the wizard
world,
wouldn't Lucius be embarassed that his son was? Really, they're minor
quibbles that don't affect the erotic nature of the story all that
much.

I see that you've listed it as chapter one, so I hope to read more
about
Harry's slashy adventures at Hogworts in the future.

Again, thank you very much from writing the story.

green_rook
*****
i also have homo fantasies. i jerk off to them sometimes
 
You're not allowed to post someone else's email address here. You're not actually allowed to post private emails, either. Forum guidelines, bottom of the page.

Someone made a big stink and Lit no longer posts Harry Potter stories. They've all been removed.


Welcome to the boards, though.
 
I think if I were a brilliantly talented author like J.K. Rawlings, and I had spend so much time and effort creating such wonderfully colourful characters and imaginitive stories for children, I would be very saddened to see them mutilated into second rate porn.

Alex.
 
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You write anything that's popular, it's going to end up as second rate porn. Good luck prosecuting.

I don't think that Laurel is putting up any more Harry Potter. They've all been removed from archives.

Maybe it was the bitching that just went over a few days ago.
 
I wonder if this is the reason why the first chapter of "Seducing Severus" is not available, but Ch 2 and 3 are.
hs
 
Master_Vassago said:
nj- grow up and have some tact. That is all I have to say.

I think that is a bit rich coming from you. :D

I have read some of your stories, especially the 'twins' one.

I really liked it. :p

Can you suggest some sites which are not hypocrites & will accept my Harry story? :(

I really want some feedback on those stories.

You can send me owlpost at nj13guy@yahoo.com

~nj13

Tribute to HOT Hermione Granger
www.geocities.com/nj13guy
 
What's hypocritical about it? Search engines index those stories. A child is more likely to type in Harry Potter than anyone else. Why would Literotica want to encourage children to come here?
 
My response albeit late is simple I wasn't hypocritical at all. I simply stated two things. You aired out email including the peoples email addresses and private thoughts. Even the one time I did post something like that I didn't state the name of the person or if stating the name I didn't post their statement or addy.

I have to go with KM. The search engines would pick up on the story's and well that leads to bad things when a child is involved. I never said that writing the Olsen twins story was right. I just didn't realize the rules governing that age variation. Knowing what it is now and how the ruling stands I have no issue with the person that disagreed with Me and wanted it removed or Laurel.

Also I may have issues with how or why but that is better handled in private. Not just airing things like this. I will never be a hypocrit nj I know My issues and think things out thoroughly before approaching a subject. Or at least feel strongly about them.


As for tact, well there is a way to handle everything, and this forum area doesn't need a post like yours.
 
Master_Vassago said:

As for tact, well there is a way to handle everything, and this forum area doesn't need a post like yours.

It's a free world.

I have the right to air my views. I posted the email becoz, some of those people mentioned in the e-mail were openly flaming me on the net.

So, I decided to post their comments on this thread , so that I could get a wider feddback on whether I have the right to write what they call smut/trash.

As long as I post the stories on adult sites, why should anyone have a problem with that!

Celebrity Slash is not something new.

If you don't like it, IGNORE IT.

One doesn't have to go around flaming me, like they did!:mad: :p :confused:

~nj13

nj13guy@yahoo.com
 
A few things. Your both wrong. You very childishly keep insistining that its a free world and that anybody who doen't agree with you is a hypocrit. You also shouldn't have listed other peoples e-mail adresses or posted there private e-mails. You could have sumed up the situation and made it a bit more readable without directly posting her e-mails.

She seems outragously self-righeous. I don't even know why you bother to continue to write to her. You need to learn to let things go.

Stop saying your not a writer though. Even if you only write to get yourself off, you are a writer. (Maybe not an author...) Your friend seems just as upset that you dared to post a story when you are "not even a writer". Whatever!

No matter what you write you're going to piss somebody off. Some people seem to go straight to storys that offend them just so they can send you there self-righous indignation. Like, if you dont like my story JUST BECAUSE IT INVOLVES RALPE, then don't read in the non-consent category. But people do it. Just focus on those who like what you write, and write for them.

BTW, there's a thread somewhere about dumbass feedback. Everyone gets it. Be the bigger person and just hit delete:)
 
I know I've seen an adult oriented ez-board with a lot of Harry Potter slash...I've seen a lot of Harry Potter slash fiction other places as well. Being a huge Harry Potter fan I seem to come across it a lot. Damned if I have links for any of them though. If you really want a place to air your stories, just do a little searching and I'm sure you'll find something.
 
hate mail

i had one hate message in all the stories I have submitted. Some that although they don't write were more than happy to tell me how bad mine was, and a lot of great feedback that told me how a certain story made them remember times past, or get excited enough to make their day happier. The hate mail blew me away the story was Paybacks are Hell it was about a wife who loses a bet and plays slave to her hubby.
He called me a sick pervert. Pervert maybe sick once in a while but never at the same time;-) He also wished that someone would rape me and give me aids. I sure hope he never finds out where I live. He was scary. I hope I never get another one. I don't know how people who do continue to post their stories Life is to short to let someone upset you like that especially with all the real stuff that can.
 
Re: hate mail

hi,

I need a beta reader for the chapter 4 of my harry story.

If any one is interested plz post here or send me an owl at nj13guy@yahoo.com. :D

~nj13
 
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