So, you think this memo thing has legs?

[Aglaopheme]

Well.

Shit.

"Maintains ties to. . ."

That looks like checkmate!

I guess game over, then?

I think I’ll wait for the special investigation to wrap up. You should as well.

 

[OldJourno]

What has been verified so far:



http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

"Salacious and unverified."
Remember who said that?

 

[Luk]

"Salacious and unverified."
Remember who said that?

Lance's mom.

 

[OldJourno]

Lance's mom.

OK, I'm chuckling.

 

[Aglaopheme]

"Salacious and unverified."
Remember who said that?

Well, honestly, how long do you think it would take the FBI to verify the dossier?

 

[mark_j]

Well, honestly, how long do you think it would take the FBI to verify the dossier?

They've had what? Almost two years? You would think that with the power of the intelligence community and the FBI that would have been a slam dunk in 6 months.

 

[OldJourno]

Well, honestly, how long do you think it would take the FBI to verify the dossier?

Hell, Steele was out flogging the damn thing to media before the election and couldn't get anyone to bite because it couldn't be verified. Yahoo finally published something written by Isikoff or whatever and that was used as one of the reasons to issue the FISA warrant.

 

[Aglaopheme]

They've had what? Almost two years? You would think that with the power of the intelligence community and the FBI that would have been a slam dunk in 6 months.

And Comey’s statement that it was unverified came less than a month after he had the full dossier in hand.

 

[Que]

And Comey’s statement that it was unverified came less than a month after he had the full dossier in hand.

Please. . .

That was shopped to numerous journalists. Anyone who actually looked through it for five minutes could see that it was absolute bullshit and unverifiable because it's bullshit. It was obviously bullshit then, it's still bullshit, and you're still pretending like it has a scintilla validity.

Pieces of verifiable information contained therein are simply filler that was added to try to sell the narrative that no one bought. There are things that are true about Trump that intersect with this Russian or that. None of those tangential associations mean any of the things you hope it does. They were included to sell the bullshit that they hoped would appeal to tabloid journalists who were wise enough to completely pass.

You have absolutely no hesitation about dismissing out of hand the actual scandal that is uranium one and you're hoping against hope that maybe, just maybe, Trump once fucked a Russian hooker.

 

[Luk]

They've had what? Almost two years? You would think that with the power of the intelligence community and the FBI that would have been a slam dunk in 6 months.

We're not talking about Benghazi, do keep up.

Please. . .

That was shopped to numerous journalists. Anyone who actually looked through it for five minutes could see that it was absolute bullshit and unverifiable because it's bullshit. It was obviously bullshit then, it's still bullshit, and you're still pretending like it has a scintilla validity.

Pieces of verifiable information contained therein are simply filler that was added to try to sell the narrative that no one bought. There are things that are true about Trump that intersect with this Russian or that. None of those tangential associations mean any of the things you hope it does. They were included to sell the bullshit that they hoped would appeal to tabloid journalists who were wise enough to completely pass.

You have absolutely no hesitation about dismissing out of hand the actual scandal that is uranium one and you're hoping against hope that maybe, just maybe, Trump once fucked a Russian hooker.

A thousand words and you said nothing. Just because people don't waste time fact checking all the Idiocracy thoughts that escape your rotted brain doesn't mean we all don't know you're full of crap.

 

[Que]

Hey speaking of "maintaining ties" to Russian oligarchs and businessman with direct ties to Russian intelligence...

You know who hasn't maintained any of those formerly close ties since the day after the election? Bill and Hillary Clinton.

They were immensely popular with the Russians when it was assumed that Hillary would be president of the United States and she was certainly popular when she was Secretary of State.

As soon as she had zero power to influence anything that might be of benefit to Russian oligarchs and Russian intelligence, they haven't sent her a single penny.

Why do you suppose that is?

Why would the Russians suddenly lose all interest in the wonderful, good works that the Clinton Foundation is someday going to get around to spending millions of dollars doing?

 

[Luk]

Another thousand words of emptiness.

 

[Que]

It is always cute when he wanders over to the grown-up's table and tries to pretend that he is going to be able to participate in a discussion underway.

 

[Aglaopheme]

So immensely popular that they were releasing the hacked emails of her staffers and the DNC. WOOT! She wins the popularity contest. If only the Russians like Trymp as much and had released the RNCs emails as well. *digh*. There’s always next cycle.

 

[Que]

So immensely popular that they were releasing the hacked emails of her staffers and the DNC. WOOT! She wins the popularity contest. If only the Russians like Trymp as much and had released the RNCs emails as well. *digh*. There’s always next cycle.

The only "evidence" that what you are selling is true is the say-so of the DNC. Yeah, the same DNC that both made up the contents and paid to have the dossier assembled and disseminated. Oh, and a Ukranian firm that says they totally saw Russian fingerprints on the server no one let the FBI look at.

Podesta was fished, but the bulk of the DNC emails were from someone with inside access. Probably a Bernie supporter. They were copied enmasse at one time, in person. Unless you got some sort of evidence that Russians actually broke into someplace with a DNC server Watergate Style, the Russians had nothing to do with it. If you don't already know that, you clearly should.

Just stop.

The only point of the entire Russian fable was to distract from the uranium one deal. The whole thing was really stupid because Donald Trump never even really addressed that. I doubt he even understood the significance of it.

 

[Que]

Also: your fictional Russians didn't tell the DNC and the Hillary campaign staffers to talk about human beings the way they did. That's 100% on them them. Being hypocritical shit heels is a function of them being shit heels not a function of them being hacked. Exposing the fact that they are shit heels is made the hack a publ8c service. Except it was not a hack.

"Hacking" RNC emails might very well reveal that they are similar shit-heels but you don't know that because they weren't hacked.

The FBI's emails were not hacked. They were recovered by the inspector-general after they were deleted but they showed similar shit-heel behavior.

Are you going to blame the inspector-general if that ends up impacting the next election cycle and how the general public views Democrats and their supporters or are you going to blame the people that actually said the things that they said in the emails and engaged the behavior that they engaged in?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another thousand words of emptiness.

Non-caloric word salad.

 

[Que]

As I just said elsewhere:

So much not actually offering any rebuttal, much less an effective rebuttal. So much posturing.

To wit:

A thousand words and you said nothing. Just because people don't waste time fact checking all the Idiocracy thoughts that escape your rotted brain doesn't mean we all don't know you're full of crap.

And:

Another thousand words of emptiness.

And:

Non-caloric word salad.

. . .and soon to be followed by some alts and Cowslinger.

"Your posts are a great source of irony." -Liam

 

[Aglaopheme]

Wow. Say it isn’t so. Full stop

The only "evidence" that what you are selling is true is the say-so of the DNC. Yeah, the same DNC that both made up the contents and paid to have the dossier assembled and disseminated. Oh, and a Ukranian firm that says they totally saw Russian fingerprints on the server no one let the FBI look at.

Podesta was fished, but the bulk of the DNC emails were from someone with inside access. Probably a Bernie supporter. They were copied enmasse at one time, in person. Unless you got some sort of evidence that Russians actually broke into someplace with a DNC server Watergate Style, the Russians had nothing to do with it. If you don't already know that, you clearly should.

Just stop.

The only point of the entire Russian fable was to distract from the uranium one deal. The whole thing was really stupid because Donald Trump never even really addressed that. I doubt he even understood the significance of it.

 

[Que]

getting back to the point of the original post. . .

I'm starting to think that the memo will have legs. and by memo I mean shorthand for all of the information that has come out and is continuing to come out about this particular scandal. I think the Grassley memo is actually better, more on point.

The reason I think that they are not going to just blow this off in a new cycle or two is because you can tell they're deflectors are on full. Which tells me that they know how serious this is which means it's going to be hard to bury.

 

[Wrong Element]

Also: your fictional Russians didn't tell the DNC and the Hillary campaign staffers to talk about human beings the way they did. That's 100% on them them. Being hypocritical shit heels is a function of them being shit heels not a function of them being hacked. Exposing the fact that they are shit heels is made the hack a publ8c service. Except it was not a hack.

"Hacking" RNC emails might very well reveal that they are similar shit-heels but you don't know that because they weren't hacked.

The FBI's emails were not hacked. They were recovered by the inspector-general after they were deleted but they showed similar shit-heel behavior.

Are you going to blame the inspector-general if that ends up impacting the next election cycle and how the general public views Democrats and their supporters or are you going to blame the people that actually said the things that they said in the emails and engaged the behavior that they engaged in?

If you get any farther into the tank for these criminals, you're going to start calling me a nigger in all caps.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I’m curious as to whom else here believes that the Russians did not hack the emails?

 

[Que]

Wow. Say it isn’t so. Full stop

It isn't so. At all.

Clapper claptrap.

I just explained all of that to you in great detail you blew right past it and pulled that bullshit out again. Yes the Russians tried yes somebody somewhere fished Podesta, but that is not where the Wiki-emails came from.

You clearly aren't interested so that's the last time I'm going to explain it.

that's also the last time I'm ever going to fucking click on one of your links have the courtesy of saying what the fuck a link is before you fucking download a goddamn PDF to my phone

 

[Luk]

As I just said elsewhere:



To wit:



And:



And:



. . .and soon to be followed by some alts and Cowslinger.

"Your posts are a great source of irony." -Liam

We used to engage you with civil discourse and gave you the benefit of the doubt most of the time but over and over you made us regret that decision so now we just make fun of your dipshittery.

 

[Luk]

It isn't so. At all.

Clapper claptrap.

I just explained all of that to you in great detail you blew right past it and pulled that bullshit out again. Yes the Russians tried yes somebody somewhere fished Podesta, but that is not where the Wiki-emails came from.

You clearly aren't interested so that's the last time I'm going to explain it.

that's also the last time I'm ever going to fucking click on one of your links have the courtesy of saying what the fuck a link is before you fucking download a goddamn PDF to my phone

LoL. Your incessant whining is so unmanly.