So, for those of us who forgot we write porn...

[wishfulthinking]

Do you write to create a story and characters etc, and the by-product is to titilate, or do you aim to write something sexy first, story second?

I don't think you can do both equally - one or the other dominates in your writing.

I like doing both in different stories, but acknowledge my limitations - I don't have much patience to write a detailed story

 

[lil_elvis]

Hi WT,

Or those of us who just stopped writing entirely

 

[damppanties]

Do you write to create a story and characters etc, and the by-product is to titilate, or do you aim to write something sexy first, story second?

I don't think you can do both equally - one or the other dominates in your writing.

I like doing both in different stories, but acknowledge my limitations - I don't have much patience to write a detailed story

That, exactly.

 

[glynndah]

The story and the characters always come first.

 

[gauchecritic]

When I started at Lit it was sex first. think up a situation and move to the sex in a timely fashion.

These days it's a story and if there happens to be sex in it then all the better.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The reader wants a roller-coaster ride with fascinating companions. That is, the exact opposite of what they want in real life.

So what I do is decide on a concept or premise, then build the roller coaster and fill it with extraordinary people.

And hopefully you'll get a thrill that will soak your underpants.

 

[Stella_Omega]

hmm... Up till a few years ago, I would start with the sex-- construct a situation and characters to have the experience I wanted to share.

Now, I am more comfortable with writing characters and building worlds-- and I know that in my reading, a good jiucy plot makes the sex very hot. So that's where I'm aiming.

Since I am a rank amateur about plots-- my output has dwindled to a merest trickle and that has been PWP that I throw out there out of frustration....

 

[TxRad]

Read the top line in my sig. It's been there since day one and says it all.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Read the top line in my sig. It's been there since day one and says it all.

Brevity makes wit!

 

[Guest]

I'm finally writing again. It feels good.

But none of the stories have great depth. They're almost fluff, generally romantic and while I hope they are better quality than just stroke, they feel "light" to me.

But each one I write seems to be increasing in length and in breadth (and in plot and in character development).

We'll see.

 

[RogueLurker]

I think for most of the stories I've written that have sex, the sex is intrinsic to the overall story - whether it is tranformative or a way to evoke the characters' personalities and their relationships. The sex isn't there to necessarily titillate, but I will try to write it so that it does. There's more than stroke (I hope), but also enough heat to satisfy those who are looking for that sort of thing. If sex doesn't belong in the story, I won't put it in. If it does, I will put as much effort into it as I do into the characters and story and I will try to make it as "hot and bothered" as it should be in to fit in the story.

In the end, it is the story which is paramount to me. When asked, I tell people that I write stories that have sex, I rarely tell them that I write sex stories.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Characters always come first. Your characters write their own story. As a writer it is my job to make the story as interesting and well written as possible. If the characters have sex, it's because it is in the telling of the story and important in moving the story along the plot line.

Writing a sex story is easy. Writing a well written story is harder. Writing a well written story without sex is no different.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

JENNY JACKSON

Partial credit.

You know what I think of your writing, so we dont need to go there. Everything you say is correct. Youre consistently right.

BUT! And its a big but (I like big buts and I cannot lie).

You really gotta bytch-slap readers or there aint gonna be no 2nd chances.

After I say my prayers and wish upon a star and climb in bed, I usually read about writing by authors who've written best-sellers, or publishers who've sold tons of them. They all chant the same mantra: GIVE THE READER WHAT THEY CANT GET ANYPLACE ELSE.

You know this because it drips from your own efforts.

Amen

 

[Belegon]

I have to say that I am writing less sex as I continue. It's not true across the board and I certainly wouldn't say the sex in my stories is unnecessary... HARDLY! But certainly the point is now to tell the character's story... and when I first started writing here, it was really all just setting for a sex scene.

I recently was writing a novella that is published in an anthology from Phaze. On deadline and wanting to get to the stories ultimate climax, I came to a very necessary and anticipated sex scene... but what I really had pushing at my brain is what happens in it's aftermath. I wanted to write that out while the ideas were fresh in my mind. So I inserted...

***Add sex here***​

My editor, the lovely and talented Imp, found this most amusing....

So, I write stories and characters first now. That shows it. But I wouldn't go so far as to call the titallation a by-product. If I ever write that, I'll probably let if fade to black or soften it a bit and sell the story outside the erotica genre.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Frankly, I find sex stories rather boring. They are way too much alike -

"He slammed his throbbing bologna deep into her hot, dripping twat."

Sorry. but story is just more important. After a few hundred "strokers" the sex is just trite and unamusing. If you can't show me you put some effort into writting something that's a cut above the medeocre general population of crap posted here, I'll have to tell you how mind numbing I find it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ACK!!!

God help us all when porn degenerates into the later M.A.S.H. episodes.

Remember how awful MASH became when they let Alan Alda, "The Self Righteous," direct? ACK!! Even Klinger jumped into fatigues. It stopped being funny because Alda had a moral lesson to preach.

Porn shouldnt be preachy.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Jenny Jackson

I believe you.

Ninety-nine percent of it is.

And I dont believe the last word is written on the subject. I'm confident the mix of words exists that will knock Jenny Jackson out of her boyshorts.

 

[RogueLurker]

Jenny Jackson out of her boyshorts.

hmmm - now that's a lovely image to ponder.

 

[CeriseNoire]

I write what comes to mind, and it includes plenty of sex. Sometimes I picture a sex scene and then imagine the type of character that would end up in that situation. Other times, I have characters in mind, and I imagine the kind of sex people like that would have, and what would happen to them as a result. I'm proud of my sex stories either way. Sex is an integral part of life for me, so if it's reasonable for me to describe a character's meal in detail, I don't see why I'd go fade to black when sex is in progress (as long as it's part of the plot).

Then of course, there's my non-erotic writing, which by its nature rarely contains sex, but that's a whole other story, since those came before I ever thought of venturing into porn.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

I've spoken somewhat to James about this in PM. I only have one rule when I write - Make it real.

I do not use outlines. I do not think a story trough from beginning to end before I begin writing. And I do not write stories.

I start with an image in my head. For instance, in Julia that image was of me sitting on the back dock of my boat house at six AM one summer a few years ago watching the sun rise over Mount Hood. The scene was so peaceful. There was no movement on the water, no birds flying overhead, no planes landing at the airport down river.

Why "I" ended up being male, I'm not sure, it just came out that way. Why there are few discriptions of the scenery and why "I" and "Julia" are never discribed is because I find it better to let the reader create his/her own images in their own mind from their own experiences, preferences, etc. That is one of the things I use to draw my readers into the story, in a way, make them a part of, or at least a witness, to the story.

Maybe it would be easier to pull out the old, "She had long blonde hair down to her ass with big blue eyes and perky 68 inch tits." But that's been written a thousand times.

Ask yourself, how many women do you know who look like that? Would you even want to know a woman who looked like that? It's just not real.

How many people meet and ten lines later are fucking like rabbits. That's not real either.

 

[only_more_so]

Do you write to create a story and characters etc, and the by-product is to titilate, or do you aim to write something sexy first, story second?

I don't think you can do both equally - one or the other dominates in your writing.

I like doing both in different stories, but acknowledge my limitations - I don't have much patience to write a detailed story

My stories are definately more on the plot side than the sex side, but there is a lot of sex as well. Basically Skinemax porn, as opposed to XXX porn.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Jenny

I've fucked people who came to the door selling Bibles and water softeners. One woman had the wrong address. I meet them in chatrooms and go to motels.

My girlfriend, yesterday, asked me "How in hell do you do that?"

And the answer is very simple: Southern hospitality.

If you come to my home and seem thirsty or hungry, I offer the appropriate refreshment. I dont wait to be asked.

If you seem horny....

 

[Stella_Omega]

Jenny

I've fucked people who came to the door selling Bibles and water softeners. One woman had the wrong address. I meet them in chatrooms and go to motels.

My girlfriend, yesterday, asked me "How in hell do you do that?"

And the answer is very simple: Southern hospitality.

If you come to my home and seem thirsty or hungry, I offer the appropriate refreshment. I dont wait to be asked.

If you seem horny....

Of course, those baby blues, and that ten-inch pachyderm in your pants help your success rate somewhat...
Now, I'm going to go all motherly on your ass;

You practising safe sex, sonnyboy?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STELLA OMEGA

You'd be amazed how many people want refreshment...coffee, tea, or me?

 

[Travel_by_day]

I have attempted both in the stories I have posted here - starting with a character or two in mind, and then crafting the story around them, eventually leading to the inevitable sex, and started with a sex act and then crafting a set of characters and plot line to drive to the act.

While I am pretty new here and haven't had much time to get votes, I do notice of the stories I have written that started with the characters and plot all have the blessed red N, whereas the stories where I started with the sex, and built the characters to fit the sex, they haven't faired so well in the ratings.