Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

[Lancecastor]

Q: Is the snivelling that's been going on around here of late the work of unfulfilled masochists? Undisciplined subs? Unfulfilled weekend doms?

Or has it just been the full moon?

Whatever it is/has been...please keep it out of my personal mailbox...it's upsetting my chi, which is quite gentle by nature.

I'm off to the cottage...I wanna see some rosy cheeks when I get back here Monday!

And some smiles!

Or I'll start to use..........sarcasm.


Love, love , love; cheap dirty love;
Lance

 

[tassie]

i thought of a considered response, and now here it is.

fuck off.

in the nicest POSSIBLE way.

 

[MissTaken]

Have a good weekend, Lance.

And we will be sure to forget that we are people with emotions, feelings and intellect while you are gone.

Ya right!

IF ya dont' like it, steer clear.

For some this is the place where they found their way into BDSM.

Some of us have true friends here, real time and online.

I dont' expect everyone to be equally invested or concerned, but don't knock those of us that are.

That being said....who is the lucky lady?

(could a been me! )

Don't shit on us and we won't shit on you

 

[MzChrista]

Q: Is the snivelling that's been going on around here of late the work of unfulfilled masochists? Undisciplined subs? Unfulfilled weekend doms?

Or has it just been the full moon?

Whatever it is/has been...please keep it out of my personal mailbox...it's upsetting my chi, which is quite gentle by nature.

I'm off to the cottage...I wanna see some rosy cheeks when I get back here Monday!

And some smiles!

Or I'll start to use..........sarcasm.


Love, love , love; cheap dirty love;
Lance

Blow me.

 

[Lancecastor]

This is exactly what I'm talking about...

.....have a look at the three responses I've received so far (as expected) from the sensitive, caring lot in the Community:

1. Fuck off
2. Blow me

3. and....some petty insults to my rational approach, with an elitist twist and a personal revelation half-gainer:

Have a good weekend, Lance.

And we will be sure to forget that we are people with emotions, feelings and intellect while you are gone.

Ya right!

IF ya dont' like it, steer clear.

For some this is the place where they found their way into BDSM.

Some of us have true friends here, real time and online.

I dont' expect everyone to be equally invested or concerned, but don't knock those of us that are.

That being said....who is the lucky lady?

(could a been me! )

Don't shit on us and we won't shit on you

My Response:

For starters, I've told no-one to "fuck off" or to "blow me"...in fact, I've been rude to no-one ...but have been equally as critical of all snivellers, be they the "Oprah-Im-a-victim", the "Anonymous Troll Provocateurs" or the "Elitist It's MY Community Because I Post Lots & (Therefore Should) Make The Rules" types.

My very simple, straightforward beef is and has been that there is a lot of negative karma being generated here of late....over what exactly, I'm not quite sure...

Now, just because I'm not emotionally invested in this community to define myself, to help know my sexuality or to talk about dark secrets I cant raise at home in an unhappy marriage or whatever, etc etc etc....does NOT mean I have any more ...or less....validity to speak my mind, thank-you very much.

This includes my ability and "right" (sic) to comment on the meanderings and general whining associated with whatever Writer Dom did/didn't say/do ten weeks ago or whatever has so many damp virtual thongs twisted into knots around here.

And make no mistake.....it's definitely whining.

And some of it is elitist.

And lots of it is judgemental.

All coming from self-proclaimed members of a so-called "community" of "trust" , "openess", "sharing", "support"......

Ha!

The stench of the self-absorbed hypocrisy in the words is blinding!

How DARE you people speak of Trust and Support and Caring in one breath...."hugs to you sweetcakes, I feel your pain"....then turn around and tell people to "fuck off" and "blow me" or to "steer clear"?

I'm here to celebrate my life, not apologize for it to anyone, thank-you. And I'm not likely to be intimidated or lose a pissing match in text, that's for sure.

I am, after all, a MasterDebater. (mild humour, lest you confuse debate with emotion)

Lastly, MissTaken: If I want the Board to know if I'm "with" someone this weekend or who I "could" be with....here's a thought I think I've seen in The Rools...how about I be the one to post it if....if....it relates to Me?

Later;
LC

 

[MissTaken]

Sorry, Lance...

the personal comment was intended to lighten things up a bit.


You are right for being miffed about it and I do sincerely apologize.

As for the rest, to hear scathing sarcasm over and over can be as annoying as I imagine you feel about whining.

And again, I hope you have a good weekend.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: This is exactly what I'm talking about...

For starters, I've told no-one to "fuck off" or to "blow me"...in fact, I've been rude to no-one ...but have been equally as critical of all snivellers, be they the "Oprah-Im-a-victim", the "Anonymous Troll Provocateurs" or the "Elitist It's MY Community Because I Post Lots & (Therefore Should) Make The Rules" types.

Later;
LC

Actually, you've done very little but complain and toss around thinly veiled insults since the day you got here.

Gods, you're boring.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Re: This is exactly what I'm talking about...

.....<snip>
My very simple, straightforward beef is and has been that there is a lot of negative karma being generated here of late....over what exactly, I'm not quite sure...

<snip>

With all due respect for your feelings and opinions Lancecastor, as you have every right to feel the way you do. I do respect that right as I hope you will respect my right to voice my opinions as well.

That being said, in all honestly and with much sincerity, I only have this to add. By making the comments you have made in this thread you are no better or worse than the ones that you accuse of spreading negative karma. By starting this thread you have just added fuel to the fire, so to speak. However, I do relent that you have every right to start a thread of this nature.

I would hope that this entire mess could be laid to rest very soon. It has made this a place that I, personally don't want to come to. I am not fond of conflict, and tend to shy away from it if at all possible.

I have until this moment tried to stay as far out of this as possible because I felt it not my problem. However, I have come to view this community as a great source of information that I don't feel compelled to look for elsewhere. I tried for 3 days to get the horribly ugly threads off the front page and still haven't succeeded, and have since given up all hope that they will fade to the back pages, where the newbies to our community don't have to be assaulted by this crap.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to voice my own personal opinion in this matter, as all the words here have been. I take no sides, fault no one, and only wish to move forward and heal this community as quickly as possible.

dixi

 

[Guest]

Ten questions, Lancecastor, from me to you.

1. Who are you? Give us a little bio. (BTW, that's the sort of thing there's a lot of in the M thread, and in the Newbies thread too, places you've avoided in any meaningful manner, for some reason.)
2. What kind of BDSM background do you have? In other words, are you sub, switch, or dominant, Lancecastor - and don't duck the question this time.
3. Have you participated in BDSM sexuality in a skin-to-skin environment with another person? When? How much? What's your overall experience level with it? Is it something you want more of or not?
4. Were you any of our unregistered trolls, Lancecastor? Be honest. Now is the time for that.
5. What's your online experience as far as memberships in forums/chat rooms devoted to BDSM?
6. Are you registered at Lit under another nick?
7. What do you do for a living?
8. Got a particular ax to grind while you're here among us? What is it, if so , and why did you come here with it?
9. Do you think of yourself as an asshole sometimes? Why or why not?
10. Do you think of yourself as a member of this community? Why or why not?

 

[KillerMuffin]

My considered opinion on the entire matter:

Everyone on this board is a human being.

Everyone on this board will have bad days as well as good days.

Everyone on this board will offend, hurt, or anger someone else on this board at least once.

Everyone on this board has a perfect right to have considered opinions about the recent goings on.

Everyone on this board is affected by the recent goings on.

Everyone on this board makes mistakes.

Everyone on this board is due the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone on this board is deserving of forgiveness, acceptance, and a second chance.

Everyone on this board is just as good as everyone else on this board.

Rather than consider everyone else's behavior during the recent goings on or overall, consider your own behavior and how you might change it to make this a better place to be, overall.

Most members of this board have behaved well during the recent goings on. Some of the members of this board haven't. For those that have, keep it up, be a role model. For those that haven't, consider where you've gone wrong, what you can do to change things, apologize if necessary, and move on with a sincere effort to be an adult and conscientious about things.

Everyone must realize that no one is perfect and that everyone will make mistakes. No one deserves to be kicked over the recent goings on, just forgiven and accepted.

That's what this forum is about, no? Acceptance.

Too many people got hurt over this growing pain.

 

[Ebonyfire]

i thought of a considered response, and now here it is.

fuck off.

in the nicest POSSIBLE way.

I am sorry tassie, but he is right.

First of all, it is wrong to enlist people (like me) who have been minding their own damn business in petty squibbles.

If he was not talking about you, then why get snotty?

Ebony

 

[CarolineOh]

Q: Is the snivelling that's been going on around here of late the work of unfulfilled masochists? Undisciplined subs? Unfulfilled weekend doms?

Or has it just been the full moon?

Whatever it is/has been...please keep it out of my personal mailbox...it's upsetting my chi, which is quite gentle by nature.

I'm off to the cottage...I wanna see some rosy cheeks when I get back here Monday!

And some smiles!

Or I'll start to use..........sarcasm.


Love, love , love; cheap dirty love;
Lance

Sincere expression of concern is not snivelling. And it is grossly condescending of you to attempt to link posting styles you don't like to anyone's sexuality. Whether anyone here is unfulfilled or undisciplined in their offline lives is none of your business, and it is insulting to many people for you to take such a patronizing tone.
I'd be much more willing to cosider your point of view if it was not so consistently presented in such an insulting manner.
Perhaps you feel that you are being humorous, but if that is the case, well, don't quit your day job.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

Sincere expression of concern is not snivelling. And it is grossly condescending of you to attempt to link posting styles you don't like to anyone's sexuality. Whether anyone here is unfulfilled or undisciplined in their offline lives is none of your business, and it is insulting to many people for you to take such a patronizing tone.
I'd be much more willing to cosider your point of view if it was not so consistently presented in such an insulting manner.
Perhaps you feel that you are being humorous, but if that is the case, well, don't quit your day job.

Caroline, I personally did not think Lance was being patronizing or condescending at all. I for one am getting a tad tired of all this backbiting and whining that is couched in terms of "concern".

Where I come from, it is called passive-aggressive behaviour. And quite frankly it is his concern when they use PMs to enlist his aid in their campaign.

Ebony

 

[CarolineOh]

Re: Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

Caroline, I personally did not think Lance was being patronizing or condescending at all. I for one am getting a tad tired of all this backbiting and whining that is couched in terms of "concern".

Where I come from, it is called passive-aggressive behaviour. And quite frankly it is his concern when they use PMs to enlist his aid in their campaign.

Ebony

I agree with you that using PMs to further this unpleasantness is inappropriate, but I also believe that remarking that one's opinions are based on their being "unfulfilled" or "undisciplined" is certainly condescending.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

I agree with you that using PMs to further this unpleasantness is inappropriate, but I also believe that remarking that one's opinions are based on their being "unfulfilled" or "undisciplined" is certainly condescending.

An opinion, and not as bad as the flaming I have been subjected to in this forum in the past.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

An opinion, and not as bad as the flaming I have been subjected to in this forum in the past.

Consider this, you think it is insulting and I do not. Who is right?

It is a matter of point of view, which Lance was stating.

 

[CarolineOh]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

An opinion, and not as bad as the flaming I have been subjected to in this forum in the past.

That's right , it is my opinion that lance is condescending. I suppose one either feels condescended to, or one does not, so there is no point in arguing about it, and in any cae, Ebony, I have no desire to bicker with you, for my respect for you, as I am sure you know, is boundless.

 

[MzChrista]

Hey lance, just out of curiosity how come it's OK for you to speculate who is or isnt disciplined enough, but you get your nuts in a knot if someone asks you who you are going out with?

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Snivel-Fest Final Weekend!

That's right , it is my opinion that lance is condescending. I suppose one either feels condescended to, or one does not, so there is no point in arguing about it, and in any cae, Ebony, I have no desire to bicker with you, for my respect for you, as I am sure you know, is boundless.

I really wasn't trying to bicker either. My point (badly stated) is that there were differing opinions on what Lance said.

And thanks, I think the world of you too, and nothing can change that. I never require the people I care about to agree with me. That would make life very boring indeed.

Ebony

 

[Lancecastor]

Dear Troll

Dear Troll;

I'm pretty sure I chimed in with my answers to The Questions when that thread was fresh....

Mind your head under that bridge!;
LC

Ten questions, Lancecastor, from me to you.

1. Who are you? Give us a little bio. (BTW, that's the sort of thing there's a lot of in the M thread, and in the Newbies thread too, places you've avoided in any meaningful manner, for some reason.)
2. What kind of BDSM background do you have? In other words, are you sub, switch, or dominant, Lancecastor - and don't duck the question this time.
3. Have you participated in BDSM sexuality in a skin-to-skin environment with another person? When? How much? What's your overall experience level with it? Is it something you want more of or not?
4. Were you any of our unregistered trolls, Lancecastor? Be honest. Now is the time for that.
5. What's your online experience as far as memberships in forums/chat rooms devoted to BDSM?
6. Are you registered at Lit under another nick?
7. What do you do for a living?
8. Got a particular ax to grind while you're here among us? What is it, if so , and why did you come here with it?
9. Do you think of yourself as an asshole sometimes? Why or why not?
10. Do you think of yourself as a member of this community? Why or why not?

 

[MissTaken]

Re: Dear Troll

Dear Troll;

I'm pretty sure I chimed in with my answers to The Questions when that thread was fresh....

Mind your head under that bridge!;
LC

*smirks*


I wondered about that....seemed awfully familiar!

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: reeeeeeeeeee

I agree with you that using PMs to further this unpleasantness is inappropriate, but I also believe that remarking that one's opinions are based on their being "unfulfilled" or "undisciplined" is certainly condescending.

To clear up CO's criticism of my critique of the recent bad karma .....this thread was started to sarcastically suggest that the bad vibes around the board might be due to the full moon, subs needing discipline, masochists needing punishment....your basic "idle hands/devil's workshop" analogy...to which I'd also suggested the day before that folks might want to get outside more, get a tan...whatever.

To basically chill out.

Have fun.

Lighten up.

That sort of thing.

That's all.

LC

 

[Lancecastor]

Speculator, speculatorum, speculatorus...

Hey lance, just out of curiosity how come it's OK for you to speculate who is or isnt disciplined enough, but you get your nuts in a knot if someone asks you who you are going out with?

Hey mzchrista;

In asking out loud to the entire Board in the form of a Question in a Thread if the recent bad vibes on the Board were perhaps rooted in the recent full moon, needy subs, or unpunished masochists, I named nobody in particular, specifically or by name.

This is a totally different scenario than that illustrated by the latter half of your question, and what actually transpired therein.

Further, I wasn't speculating...I was having a bit of what I thought was fun at our collective expense...pointing out that all the name-calling and general harshness of late was/is really quite uneccessary, overblown and downright silly.

Lastly, and sorry to disappoint you, but my nuts weren't/aren't in a knot....though yours perhaps could benfit from looser undergarments, I suggest....but I'm just speculating.

Thanks for your curiousity; hope this helps demuddy the mysto.

Cheers;
LC

 

[Lancecastor]

Moderators.

Actually, you've done very little but complain and toss around thinly veiled insults since the day you got here.

Gods, you're boring.

Moderators generally don't participate actively in most BB environments....they're usually there to stay quietly in the background and quietly explain technical difficulties, point people in a positive direction...that sort of thing.

Here, we seem to have "player-moderators"( to warp a sports term).

It strikes me as odd for Moderators to be so openly active on a Board....but the outward hostility to users (and apparently sometimes even to each other) strikes me as being really quite unprofessional, poor netiquette and simply bad form.

That being said, I answer Ms Skye's challenge and stack my last 200 posts up against Risia's anytime for manners, insults and boredom....fill your boots, let me know what you think....because without even looking, I know our ModSquad has a collective sharp tongue when they are Moderating.....

Hmmmm....Maybe that's the problem after all.

Perhaps the Board might benefit from Anonymous Moderators.

Just a thought;
LC

 

[CarolineOh]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: reeeeeeeeeee

To clear up CO's criticism of my critique of the recent bad karma .....this thread was started to sarcastically suggest that the bad vibes around the board might be due to the full moon, subs needing discipline, masochists needing punishment....your basic "idle hands/devil's workshop" analogy...to which I'd also suggested the day before that folks might want to get outside more, get a tan...whatever.

To basically chill out.

Have fun.

Lighten up.

That sort of thing.

That's all.

LC

I knew exactly what your post was intended to do.
It was condescending. Who are you to tell anyone here that they need to chill out, lighten up, or do anything else at your behest? The last time I checked no one here had agreed to be your submissive.