smokin bud

how do u feel about marajana usage?

  • yes, i smoke and feel it should be legalized.

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • no, i don\\\'t smoke and feel it should reman under ban.

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • yes, i smoke but still feel it should remain under ban.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • no, i don\\\'t smoke but feel it should be legal.

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • in certain circumstances, such as medicinal purposes, i feel it is acceptable.

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • other. (please explain or state the option you wish had been provided.)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Total voters
    29

paganangel

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well, do u or don't you? in your response tell me how u feel about the laws. please refer to age and any other factors u feel should mitigate.
 
I think the marijuana laws are ridiculous! Especially when there are so much more harmful things out there!

Where I'm from...you only get a ticket for possession. So, they are at least getting a little more lenient.

I just heard....scientists have now discovered that yes, smoking marijuana does decrease a person's memory. But....after you quit smoking...it comes back. Its not permanent!! That's good news for all the pot smokers.....but now whether something will change....who knows!
 
Bud does less harm than Bud Light. It's ridiculous for pot to be illegal while liquor is legal. If it were legal, i'd be an occasional partaker, but only from personal choice, not because it would harm others or myself, appreciably, to smoke more.
 
Never followed the logic of pot being worse than alcohol... being in the health care profession, I have ever seen marijuana related illness. But alcohol can wreak havoc in illness, death, families torn apart... costs everyone. My opinion about legalization is purely emotional but I feel it should be legalized, with the first step being for medicinal use.

pet
 
koalabear said:
Don't smoke anymore. Cambodian Red to hard to get now......

:cool:


Good shit!!! I'm always partial to good ol' BC Skunk!!!
 
Don't smoke any more. Well, hardly ever. Not very often. Not as much as I used to. Not as much as I'd like. If it were legal.
 
just pet said:
Never followed the logic of pot being worse than alcohol... being in the health care profession, I have ever seen marijuana related illness. But alcohol can wreak havoc in illness, death, families torn apart... costs everyone. My opinion about legalization is purely emotional but I feel it should be legalized, with the first step being for medicinal use.

pet

Oh, puff for puff, marijuana does more harm than cigarettes, it's phytoestrogenic, and has all sorts of other ill effects--but I was thinking of the complete cost. Alcohol matches marijuana in long-term health effects, I believe, plus drunken car wrecks, fights, just plain bad decisions, etc.

Of course, toking and driving should always be illegal, too.
 
heterotic said:


Of course, toking and driving should always be illegal, too.

Definately!! No one should drive under any kind of infuence!!
 
i don't smoke it but my parents did all the time i was growing up (but quit before i was in high school), which dispels two myths:

* that the children of dopers will become dopers (i became a pharmacist instead)

* that dopers will go on to harder drugs (i never saw a needle in our house ever)

marijuana can be abused...sure it can...as can caffeine and alcohol and nutritional supplements and vitamins...why in heaven's name should it be illegal for everyone because a few have taken it to extremes? the only reason it's illegal is because in people's minds it's somehow related to an evil "drug culture" (which by some twist of logic doesn't include tobacco and alcohol)

we spend millions trying to control it, then millions more throwing people into jail for having it, when we could be MAKING millions by taxing it

it's just plain silly
 
heterotic said:


Oh, puff for puff, marijuana does more harm than cigarettes, it's phytoestrogenic, and has all sorts of other ill effects--but I was thinking of the complete cost. Alcohol matches marijuana in long-term health effects, I believe, plus drunken car wrecks, fights, just plain bad decisions, etc.

Of course, toking and driving should always be illegal, too.

matches? i'm pretty sure alcohol blows it away. of course tha could be the legality issue. as far as puff for puff, how many guys do you know who smoke 20 jays a day?
 
sigh said:
i don't smoke it but my parents did all the time i was growing up (but quit before i was in high school), which dispels two myths:

* that the children of dopers will become dopers (i became a pharmacist instead)

* that dopers will go on to harder drugs (i never saw a needle in our house ever)

marijuana can be abused...sure it can...as can caffeine and alcohol and nutritional supplements and vitamins...why in heaven's name should it be illegal for everyone because a few have taken it to extremes? the only reason it's illegal is because in people's minds it's somehow related to an evil "drug culture" (which by some twist of logic doesn't include tobacco and alcohol)

we spend millions trying to control it, then millions more throwing people into jail for having it, when we could be MAKING millions by taxing it

it's just plain silly

and you can never stop it, just targeting the user.

:cool:
 
lyao

thankyou. i'm here all week...try the veal and remember to tip your waitress.
 
paganangel said:


matches? i'm pretty sure alcohol blows it away. of course tha could be the legality issue. as far as puff for puff, how many guys do you know who smoke 20 jays a day?

Only a few, and you can tell they're burnouts from one glance. But it is true that pot is, as a rule of thumb, used in much more moderation than liquor or tobacco.

Priceless quip, BTW.
 
From all of my _limited_ experience, it just seems to me that pot is A LOT less health-threatening than cigs or alchohol.

My s/o smokes a couple a bowls a day, and he is no different when he dosen't smoke; ie: no mood swings or such.
He drives everywhere, no problems, he gets a HELL of a lot of work done around the house, and he is a good, patient man...albeit a bit boring in bed....
but anyway; I think pot should be legal, esp for medicinal uses!! And HEMP!!! Hemp rules!! I love my hemp silk clothes...I know, I know, its not the same; but it seems like Bush is trying to make EVERYTHING illeagal.

PS I don't know WHERE she got it; but my four year has taken to saying "I HATE BUSH" Tee hee.
 
Basically i think legalizing marijuana would be a start in diffusing a large illegal smuggling problem and bring a new industry into our country that could literally employ tens of thousands of people and as stated could branch out into the production of textiles and paper products. Pot seeds are actually sold in organic food markets...they've been shelled and they have the most amazing flavor.

I'm not exactly sure how it works,but I've read medical marijuana is grown differently than the stuff used for recreational purposes...it doesn't exactly get you stoned ...how thats supposed to supress pain i don't know and it kind of seems like a gyp to me to be ill and not be able to at least get a good buzz but it's not the same stuff you find at parties. Even medical pot is very hard to get...Very few of the people who need it to ease suffering are actual "sick enough" by government standards to get it and even then its highly controlled. Legalizing it would make life easier for these people.

I believe the health factor of smoking pot works on a one joint=20 cigareetes as far gooey badness for your lungs...but i still prefer it much more than alchohol.

Plus its good for sex!
 
Besides taking the legal drugs as empiricle evidence the historical lieklyhood exists that legal Marijuana cigarettes will become less potent over time. Think of only our legal drugs: Tobacco cigarettes have gone from pure leaf no filter to lor tar, high filter lights! And alcohol from formaldehyde laced gin and 150+Proof moonshine during the prohibition to Light beer and wine coolers today. All the evidence suggests that legal dope will NOT lead to stronger drug use.
 
glamorilla said:
Basically i think legalizing marijuana would be a start in diffusing a large illegal smuggling problem and bring a new industry into our country that could literally employ tens of thousands of people and as stated could branch out into the production of textiles and paper products. Pot seeds are actually sold in organic food markets...they've been shelled and they have the most amazing flavor.

I'm not exactly sure how it works,but I've read medical marijuana is grown differently than the stuff used for recreational purposes...it doesn't exactly get you stoned ...how thats supposed to supress pain i don't know and it kind of seems like a gyp to me to be ill and not be able to at least get a good buzz but it's not the same stuff you find at parties. Even medical pot is very hard to get...Very few of the people who need it to ease suffering are actual "sick enough" by government standards to get it and even then its highly controlled. Legalizing it would make life easier for these people.

I believe the health factor of smoking pot works on a one joint=20 cigareetes as far gooey badness for your lungs...but i still prefer it much more than alchohol.

Plus its good for sex!

unfortunately there is very little research done into the best strains of cannabis for particular illnesses. part of the reason for this is obvious. still there has been at least one person, whose name escapes me, who's traveled the world studying (often illegally) different plants and cross reporting their different effects for different illnesses. as far as the marajuana handed out by prescription. it's engineered to avoid a high so as to also avoid controversy from ultra conservatives. and they still can't get my hard ons to rage like they did before the depakote.
 
i do feel one of the strongest arguments against legalization is the result of the product. it will become laden with chemicls, and the high willbe greatly reduced. i als feel once the cigarette companies geta hold of it it will become fr more addictive.
 
Don't count on it being legalized/decrim in the next few hundred years. That would leave some gummint employees with nothing to do.
 
glamorilla said:

I'm not exactly sure how it works,but I've read medical marijuana is grown differently than the stuff used for recreational purposes...it doesn't exactly get you stoned ...how thats supposed to supress pain i don't know and it kind of seems like a gyp to me to be ill and not be able to at least get a good buzz but it's not the same stuff you find at parties. Even medical pot is very hard to get...Very few of the people who need it to ease suffering are actual "sick enough" by government standards to get it and even then its highly controlled. Legalizing it would make life easier for these people.

from a medical standpoint, marijuana has only modest potential...it's been found useful in controlling nausea, increasing appetite and treating glaucoma

for each of these conditions, alternate and highly effective alternatives exists which have far fewer side effects...from the FDA's point of view, it makes no sense to allow a drug to go to market (as a drug) that shows no benefit over existing agents while having more unwanted (from a medical point of view) adverse reactions...and from that perspective, i agree with them...marijuana is not good medicine...marijuana groups that use this approach to argue for its legalization are only making themselves look bad

marijuana's only truly saleable feature is that it makes you high and unfortunately our society is unlikely to allow another product to go to market whose only purpose is to make you feel good

it's not right...it makes no sense...but it's a fact
 
sigh said:


from a medical standpoint, marijuana has only modest potential...it's been found useful in controlling nausea, increasing appetite and treating glaucoma

for each of these conditions, alternate and highly effective alternatives exists which have far fewer side effects...from the FDA's point of view, it makes no sense to allow a drug to go to market (as a drug) that shows no benefit over existing agents while having more unwanted (from a medical point of view) adverse reactions...and from that perspective, i agree with them...marijuana is not good medicine...marijuana groups that use this approach to argue for its legalization are only making themselves look bad

marijuana's only truly saleable feature is that it makes you high and unfortunately our society is unlikely to allow another product to go to market whose only purpose is to make you feel good

it's not right...it makes no sense...but it's a fact

i don't know about that. from all i'veseen and heard, most patients on chemo will tell you the antiemetic effects of marajuana are one of the few things that make the process bearable. likewise most drs. and nutritionists will now admit that a good diet is essential and that without it thechemo can do almost as much harm as good.
 
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