SHOCK REPORT! U.S. Government in Possession of several UFOs (Intact and Partially Intact)

[BluesDriver66]

So if aliens take 1000s of years to get here, isn’t it a suspicious coincidence that they happened to arrive right at the point in human history when flying saucers are a common fictional trope?

It’s more plausible that the explanation for the phenomenon is innocuous, but people latched onto “aliens” because we tell so many stories about aliens that it seems reasonable.

While I am no fan of the wild speculation of ancient alien theories hustled on cable tv I don't consider it unfathomable. You seem to look at this subject through the lens of a human life time or a 1950's sci-fi movie. These could be several beings from several different civilizations who arrived here at different times with different agendas. They could travel at slower speeds in a state of hibernation, have generational mother ships, or perhaps the pilots aren't even sentient beings but some sort of cyborgs or robots.

I give the eyewitness accounts of on duty professionals as well normal citizens more credibility than "people latching on "aliens" because they're kind of stupid and easily manipulated. While I don't believe every yahoo with a blurry picture and wild story, the amount of very credible people with interesting stories is compelling evidence. Not conclusive evidence. But evidence never the less.

Here is a video documentary relating their experiences with UFOs. They don't "seem" like crazy fame seekers, lunatics, or drunks. Just normal people with an unusual encounter with strangeness. Could they all be liars or crazy? Sure. But it isn't likely.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

While I am no fan of the wild speculation of ancient alien theories hustled on cable tv I don't consider it unfathomable. You seem to look at this subject through the lens of a human life time or a 1950's sci-fi movie. These could be several beings from several different civilizations who arrived here at different times with different agendas. They could travel at slower speeds in a state of hibernation, have generational mother ships, or perhaps the pilots aren't even sentient beings but some sort of cyborgs or robots.

I give the eyewitness accounts of on duty professionals as well normal citizens more credibility than "people latching on "aliens" because they're kind of stupid and easily manipulated. While I don't believe every yahoo with a blurry picture and wild story, the amount of very credible people with interesting stories is compelling evidence. Not conclusive evidence. But evidence never the less.

Here is a video documentary relating their experiences with UFOs. They don't "seem" like crazy fame seekers, lunatics, or drunks. Just normal people with an unusual encounter with strangeness. Could they all be liars or crazy? Sure. But it isn't likely.

I saw an alien ship blow up the White House, so it must have happened.

 

[BluesDriver66]

I saw an alien ship blow up the White House, so it must have happened.

You must be really bored. Here's a little something to brighten your day.

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[SgtSpiderMan]

You must be really bored. Here's a little something to brighten your day.

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You must have some weird Trump and alien thing.
I guess you agree that if someone sees something it must be real.

 

[BluesDriver66]

You must have some weird Trump and alien thing.
I guess you agree that if someone sees something it must be real.

Okay. You caught me. Yes. I believe everything anybody says or sees all the time.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

While I am no fan of the wild speculation of ancient alien theories hustled on cable tv I don't consider it unfathomable. You seem to look at this subject through the lens of a human life time or a 1950's sci-fi movie. These could be several beings from several different civilizations who arrived here at different times with different agendas. They could travel at slower speeds in a state of hibernation, have generational mother ships, or perhaps the pilots aren't even sentient beings but some sort of cyborgs or robots.

I give the eyewitness accounts of on duty professionals as well normal citizens more credibility than "people latching on "aliens" because they're kind of stupid and easily manipulated. While I don't believe every yahoo with a blurry picture and wild story, the amount of very credible people with interesting stories is compelling evidence. Not conclusive evidence. But evidence never the less.

Here is a video documentary relating their experiences with UFOs. They don't "seem" like crazy fame seekers, lunatics, or drunks. Just normal people with an unusual encounter with strangeness. Could they all be liars or crazy? Sure. But it isn't likely.

They saw something they couldn’t explain. There is no evidence it was an alien spacecraft. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Several different aliens arriving in several different spacecrafts is even more implausible.

 

[BluesDriver66]

They saw something they couldn’t explain. There is no evidence it was an alien spacecraft. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.Reply

Several different aliens arriving in several different spacecrafts is even more implausible.

Why do people think I'm claiming there is absolute bullet proof evidence in every UFO story ever told? Extraordinary claims need to be investigated. Not ignored. Especially when they're piling up everywhere and told by the most experienced and trusted people in the military and intelligence community.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It wasn't until 1992 that the first exoplanet was discovered. Before then if you asked most people they would say (including you) planets exist in other solar systems without one shred of empirical evidence. To this day there is absolutely no evidence for exo-moons. It would be silly to claim throughout the entire universe there are no moons because there's no evidence is available at this time.

You seem to characterize every sighting as some confused little old lady with dirty eyeglasses reporting things she can't see clearly. What I'm talking about is highly trained, on duty military professionals, accompanied by radar data. If you're the commander of an aircraft carrier you can't hand wave away violations of U.S. airspace with pithy quotes like, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Your jet fighter pilots and radar operators are reporting what could only be vehicles of non-human origin. You have to make important decisions to the reality of the situation and not philosophical ramblings of what you believe and don't believe.

Again. If it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, nine times out of ten it's a duck. If you have structured metallic objects, under intelligent control, that fly to and from underwater, in the atmosphere, and into outer space at hyper sonic speeds, can make 90 degree turns at hyper sonic speeds, can go from hovering in place then instantly accelerate to hyper sonic speeds, etc. is every indication it is not manufactured by earthlings.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Why do people think I'm claiming there is absolute bullet proof evidence in every UFO story ever told? Extraordinary claims need to be investigated. Not ignored. Especially when they're piling up everywhere and told by the most experienced and trusted people in the military and intelligence community.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It wasn't until 1992 that the first exoplanet was discovered. Before then if you asked most people they would say (including you) planets exist in other solar systems without one shred of empirical evidence. To this day there is absolutely no evidence for exo-moons. It would be silly to claim throughout the entire universe there are no moons because there's no evidence is available at this time.

You seem to characterize every sighting as some confused little old lady with dirty eyeglasses reporting things she can't see clearly. What I'm talking about is highly trained, on duty military professionals, accompanied by radar data. If you're the commander of an aircraft carrier you can't hand wave away violations of U.S. airspace with pithy quotes like, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Your jet fighter pilots and radar operators are reporting what could only be vehicles of non-human origin. You have to make important decisions to the reality of the situation and not philosophical ramblings of what you believe and don't believe.

Again. If it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, nine times out of ten it's a duck. If you have structured metallic objects, under intelligent control, that fly to and from underwater, in the atmosphere, and into outer space at hyper sonic speeds, can make 90 degree turns at hyper sonic speeds, can go from hovering in place then instantly accelerate to hyper sonic speeds, etc. is every indication it is not manufactured by earthlings.

No one has said there is no life outside of Earth only that there is no proof anywhere that an intelligent alien species has visited Earth.

Again, it’s unidentified so we don’t know how it walks or sounds.

 

[BluesDriver66]

No one has said there is no life outside of Earth only that there is no proof anywhere that an intelligent alien species has visited Earth.

Again, it’s unidentified so we don’t know how it walks or sounds.

Well it looks like the truth will be revealed more sooner than later. These upcoming Congressional Hearings are going review where our tax dollars are going. There are allegations of misappropriated funds. I'm for review and investigations of any wrong doing by government agencies or employees.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Why do people think I'm claiming there is absolute bullet proof evidence in every UFO story ever told? Extraordinary claims need to be investigated. Not ignored. Especially when they're piling up everywhere and told by the most experienced and trusted people in the military and intelligence community.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It wasn't until 1992 that the first exoplanet was discovered. Before then if you asked most people they would say (including you) planets exist in other solar systems without one shred of empirical evidence. To this day there is absolutely no evidence for exo-moons. It would be silly to claim throughout the entire universe there are no moons because there's no evidence is available at this time.

You seem to characterize every sighting as some confused little old lady with dirty eyeglasses reporting things she can't see clearly. What I'm talking about is highly trained, on duty military professionals, accompanied by radar data. If you're the commander of an aircraft carrier you can't hand wave away violations of U.S. airspace with pithy quotes like, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Your jet fighter pilots and radar operators are reporting what could only be vehicles of non-human origin. You have to make important decisions to the reality of the situation and not philosophical ramblings of what you believe and don't believe.

Again. If it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, nine times out of ten it's a duck. If you have structured metallic objects, under intelligent control, that fly to and from underwater, in the atmosphere, and into outer space at hyper sonic speeds, can make 90 degree turns at hyper sonic speeds, can go from hovering in place then instantly accelerate to hyper sonic speeds, etc. is every indication it is not manufactured by earthlings.

This is a lot of unsubstantiated supposition. You don’t know they are metallic objects. You don’t know they’re under intelligent control. You don’t know that there was a physical object at all behind the anomalous observations

Probably not, because a physical object performing the maneuvers you describe would produce unmistakeable side effects like sonic booms and vapor trails.

The evidence is inconsistent with the UFOs being physical objects.

 

[BluesDriver66]

This is a lot of unsubstantiated supposition. You don’t know they are metallic objects. You don’t know they’re under intelligent control. You don’t know that there was a physical object at all behind the anomalous observations

Probably not, because a physical object performing the maneuvers you describe would produce unmistakeable side effects like sonic booms and vapor trails.

The evidence is inconsistent with the UFOs being physical objects.

You are just wrong on the facts. One of unearthly characteristics of these objects is the absence of sonic booms and vapor trails along with incredible start and stop speeds. They also are trans medium meaning they can fly in from space, fly into the atmosphere and then underwater effortlessly.

You really need to read/watch the eyewitness reports by the military officers who were there.

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Former Navy pilot describes UFO encounter studied by secret Pentagon program​

Fravor says he is certain about one thing: “It was a real object, it exists and I saw it,” he said in a phone interview on Monday, as he described the sighting, on Nov. 14, 2004.

Fravor was the commanding officer of the VFA-41 Black Aces, a U.S. Navy strike fighter squadron of F/A-18 Hornet fighter planes doing an exercise some 60 to 100 miles off the coast between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico, in advance of a deployment to the Persian Gulf for the Iraq War, he said.

“A white Tic Tac, about the same size as a Hornet, 40 feet long with no wings,” Fravor described. “Just hanging close to the water.”
The object created no rotor wash — the visible air turbulence left by the blades of a helicopter — he said, and began to mirror the pilots as they pursued it, before it vanished.

“As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it’s gone,” he said. “Faster than I’d ever seen anything in my life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-with-ufo-studied-by-secret-pentagon-program/

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You are just wrong on the facts. One of unearthly characteristics of these objects is the absence of sonic booms and vapor trails along with incredible start and stop speeds. They also are trans medium meaning they can fly in from space, fly into the atmosphere and then underwater effortlessly.

You really need to read/watch the eyewitness reports by the military officers who were there.

​

Former Navy pilot describes UFO encounter studied by secret Pentagon program​

Fravor says he is certain about one thing: “It was a real object, it exists and I saw it,” he said in a phone interview on Monday, as he described the sighting, on Nov. 14, 2004.

Fravor was the commanding officer of the VFA-41 Black Aces, a U.S. Navy strike fighter squadron of F/A-18 Hornet fighter planes doing an exercise some 60 to 100 miles off the coast between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico, in advance of a deployment to the Persian Gulf for the Iraq War, he said.

“A white Tic Tac, about the same size as a Hornet, 40 feet long with no wings,” Fravor described. “Just hanging close to the water.”
The object created no rotor wash — the visible air turbulence left by the blades of a helicopter — he said, and began to mirror the pilots as they pursued it, before it vanished.

“As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it’s gone,” he said. “Faster than I’d ever seen anything in my life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-with-ufo-studied-by-secret-pentagon-program/

Yes, the evidence doesn’t support them being physical objects. Inventing imaginary technology that breaks the laws of physics makes your explanation less plausible. You might as well say “God did it!”

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You are just wrong on the facts. One of unearthly characteristics of these objects is the absence of sonic booms and vapor trails along with incredible start and stop speeds. They also are trans medium meaning they can fly in from space, fly into the atmosphere and then underwater effortlessly.

You really need to read/watch the eyewitness reports by the military officers who were there.

​

Former Navy pilot describes UFO encounter studied by secret Pentagon program​

Fravor says he is certain about one thing: “It was a real object, it exists and I saw it,” he said in a phone interview on Monday, as he described the sighting, on Nov. 14, 2004.

Fravor was the commanding officer of the VFA-41 Black Aces, a U.S. Navy strike fighter squadron of F/A-18 Hornet fighter planes doing an exercise some 60 to 100 miles off the coast between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico, in advance of a deployment to the Persian Gulf for the Iraq War, he said.

“A white Tic Tac, about the same size as a Hornet, 40 feet long with no wings,” Fravor described. “Just hanging close to the water.”
The object created no rotor wash — the visible air turbulence left by the blades of a helicopter — he said, and began to mirror the pilots as they pursued it, before it vanished.

“As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it’s gone,” he said. “Faster than I’d ever seen anything in my life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-with-ufo-studied-by-secret-pentagon-program/

It's midway through 2023. There are about 1 million people who fly in the air on a plane everyday, each with a smartphone in their pocket, and not one of them has seen an alien spacecraft.

Even if these pilots did see something, what proof do you have that it was alien?

 

[phrodeau]

People don’t like to admit that they’re wrong, especially when they’re on the job, and especially in the machismo culture of the military.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Yes, the evidence doesn’t support them being physical objects. Inventing imaginary technology that breaks the laws of physics makes your explanation less plausible. You might as well say “God did it!”

What evidence are you talking about? The pilots eyewitness testimony says differently along with the radar data.

Also I think it's adorable you think all the laws of physics has been settled. Care to tell us how quantum entanglement works sending information faster than light or maybe what's the singularity at the center of black holes?

List of unsolved problems in physics​

The following is a list of notable unsolved problems grouped into broad areas of physics.[1]

Some of the major unsolved problems in physics are theoretical, meaning that existing theories seem incapable of explaining a certain observed phenomenon or experimental result. The others are experimental, meaning that there is a difficulty in creating an experiment to test a proposed theory or investigate a phenomenon in greater detail.

There are still some questions beyond the Standard Model of physics, such as the strong CP problem, neutrino mass, matter–antimatter asymmetry, and the nature of dark matter and dark energy.[2][3] Another problem lies within the mathematical framework of the Standard Model itself—the Standard Model is inconsistent with that of general relativity, to the point that one or both theories break down under certain conditions (for example within known spacetime singularities like the Big Bang and the centres of black holes beyond the event horizon).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics

 

[BluesDriver66]

It's midway through 2023. There are about 1 million people who fly in the air on a plane everyday, each with a smartphone in their pocket, and not one of them has seen an alien spacecraft.

Even if these pilots did see something, what proof do you have that it was alien?

UFO pics/vids from airplanes are available all over the internet. Would I consider blurry images any kind of "proof"? Of course not. But the idea that people aren't recording strangeness they see from planes would just be false.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What evidence are you talking about? The pilots eyewitness testimony says differently along with the radar data.

Also I think it's adorable you think all the laws of physics has been settled. Care to tell us how quantum entanglement works sending information faster than light or maybe what's the singularity at the center of black holes?

List of unsolved problems in physics​

The following is a list of notable unsolved problems grouped into broad areas of physics.[1]

Some of the major unsolved problems in physics are theoretical, meaning that existing theories seem incapable of explaining a certain observed phenomenon or experimental result. The others are experimental, meaning that there is a difficulty in creating an experiment to test a proposed theory or investigate a phenomenon in greater detail.

There are still some questions beyond the Standard Model of physics, such as the strong CP problem, neutrino mass, matter–antimatter asymmetry, and the nature of dark matter and dark energy.[2][3] Another problem lies within the mathematical framework of the Standard Model itself—the Standard Model is inconsistent with that of general relativity, to the point that one or both theories break down under certain conditions (for example within known spacetime singularities like the Big Bang and the centres of black holes beyond the event horizon).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics

Quantum entanglement does not send information faster than light.

How supersonic bodies behave in earth's atmosphere is well-established. It's not an "unsolved problem".

 

[jaF0]

Ohhh, now Li'l Joshey found another way to get his name published ....

Senator Admits UFO Whistleblower Report Tracks With Official Briefing​

"None of it's good," Senator Josh Hawley said. "I think we want to get to the bottom of this. I think it's disturbing."

 

[BluesDriver66]

Yes, the evidence doesn’t support them being physical objects. Inventing imaginary technology that breaks the laws of physics makes your explanation less plausible. You might as well say “God did it!”

 

[BluesDriver66]

Quantum entanglement does not send information faster than light.

How supersonic bodies behave in earth's atmosphere is well-established. It's not an "unsolved problem".

Quantum Action Is 10,000 Times Faster Than Light​

How fast do quantum interactions happen? Faster than light, 10,000 times faster.

That's what a team of physicists led by Juan Yin at the University of Science and Technology of China in Shanghai found in an experiment involving entangled photons, or photons that remain intimately connected, even when separated by vast distances.They wanted to see what would happen if you tried assigning a speed to what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance."

https://www.livescience.com/27920-quantum-action-faster-than-light.html

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Quantum Action Is 10,000 Times Faster Than Light​

How fast do quantum interactions happen? Faster than light, 10,000 times faster.

That's what a team of physicists led by Juan Yin at the University of Science and Technology of China in Shanghai found in an experiment involving entangled photons, or photons that remain intimately connected, even when separated by vast distances.They wanted to see what would happen if you tried assigning a speed to what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance."

https://www.livescience.com/27920-quantum-action-faster-than-light.html

Entanglement can't be used to transmit information. The "action at a distance" probably happens simultaneously. The fact that experimenters measured any time delay is probably because of the physical limitations of the test apparatus.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Marco Rubio Says He’s Heard Shocking ‘Firsthand’ Accounts of UFOs​

In the wake of the explosive allegation earlier this month from intelligence whistleblower David Grusch — who claimed that Congress is not being shown the full evidence of UFO technology, including crashed alien spacecraft — Rubio told NewsNation that there are others in the intelligence community who have come forward with “firsthand” accounts of UFO hardware. Rubio, a longtime advocate for transparency on the alien issue, claims there are several more intelligence whistleblowers with “high clearances” who have shared similar allegations with the Senate Intelligence Committee.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...ard-shocking-first-hand-accounts-of-ufos.html

 

[HisArpy]

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The most common phenom when some people are faced with that which they cannot understand is to feign than they aren't interested in it and then dismiss the entire concept as a fraud or con job.

 

[BluesDriver66]

The Senate Intelligence Authorization Bill looks like it was written by people with a lot more information on the UAP/UFO phenomenon than is being released to the public. These kind of provisions would only be included if there are very strong suspicions and evidence that there are a lot of shenanigans going on behind the scenes.

They thought long and hard to make sure anybody involved with recovered UAP/UFO materials in public or private industry must come forward and give up the goods. Within 180 days no less. This doesn't sound like they're fucking around.

Senate’s intelligence authorization bill questions ‘reverse engineering’ of government-recovered UAPs​

But in the latest version of the IAA introduced in the Senate last week, lawmakers incorporated a mandate for any person currently or formerly under contract with the federal government that “has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the” government relating to UAP — “that formerly or currently is protected by any form of special access or restricted access” — to notify Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, director of the Pentagon’s new All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), within 60 days of the bill’s enactment.

No later than 180 days after the IAA’s passage, the officials would also need to make “all such material and information” and “a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic [UAP] material” available to AARO for “assessment, analysis, and inspection.”

Further, the text of Sec. 1104 of this version of the IAA states that “no amount authorized to be appropriated or appropriated by this act or any other act may be obligated or expended, directly or indirectly, in part or in whole, for, on, in relation to, or in support of activities involving [UAP] protected under any form of special access or restricted access limitations” that have not been “formally, officially, explicitly, and specifically described, explained, and justified” to the AARO director, and congressional leadership.

The legislation notes that it applies to “any activities relating to the following”:

1. Recruiting, employing, training, equipping, and operations of, and providing security for, government or contractor personnel with a primary, secondary, or contingency mission of capturing, recovering, and securing unidentified anomalous phenomena craft or pieces and components of such craft.
2. Analyzing such craft or pieces or components thereof, including for the purpose of determining properties, material composition, method of manufacture, origin, characteristics, usage and application, performance, operational modalities, or reverse engineering of such craft or component technology.
3. Managing and providing security for protecting activities and information relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena from disclosure or compromise.
4. Actions relating to reverse engineering or replicating unidentified anomalous phenomena technology or performance based on analysis of materials or sensor and observational information associated with unidentified anomalous phenomena.
5. The development of propulsion technology, or aerospace craft that uses propulsion technology, systems, or subsystems, that is based on or derived from or inspired by inspection, analysis, or reverse engineering of recovered unidentified anomalous phenomena craft or materials.
6. Any aerospace craft that uses propulsion technology other than chemical propellants, solar power, or electric ion thrust.

https://defensescoop.com/2023/06/27...rse-engineering-of-government-recovered-uaps/

 

[BluesDriver66]

They are covering all their bases. From health and safety of employees to the types of vehicles. They are leaving no wiggle room for the military or their contractors to avoid disclosure of non-human artifacts and it's affects on people who come into contact with them.

Defense Spending Bill Contains ‘Most Significant’ UFO Legislation Since 1960s​

The legislation calls for details on reported health issues connected to UAP sightings, ‘transmedium objects,’ those that hover near military nuclear sites—and more.​

Congress this summer that confirmed there were 144 reliable reports of such phenomena originating from government sources—80 of which involved observations with multiple sensors—between 2004 and 2021.​

The provision that would mandate the office was put forward by multiple lawmakers, including Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who recently expressed concerns about briefings she received from UAP Task Force investigators, which motivated her proposal.

For instance, according to the legislation “‘unidentified aerial phenomena’ means—(A) airborne objects that are not immediately identifiable; (B) transmedium objects or devices; and (C) submerged objects or devices that are not immediately identifiable and that display behavior or performance characteristics suggesting that the objects or devices may be related to the objects” previously referred to in the text.

“The significance is the inclusion of both. Some objects have been observed moving into and out of the ocean (a liquid) and into the atmosphere (a gas) seemingly unencumbered by traditional Newtonian physics and aerodynamic pressures,” Mellon wrote. “Some of these same objects may also be able to operate in the vacuum of space, clearly impossible for conventional air-breathing means of propulsion.”
Among other elements, such reports would need to describe UAP-aligned incidents that occur each year—and comprehensive details about those “associated with military nuclear assets, including strategic nuclear weapons and nuclear-powered ships and submarines.”

Text of the bill also calls for the report to contain “an assessment of any health-related effects for individuals that have encountered unidentified aerial phenomena.”

https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-te...ost-significant-ufo-legislation-1960s/187440/