Shitty Pretti deserved it

[MasterAnimus]

I can't feel or say he deserved it.
He certainly did ask for it.

Much like Ashley Babbitt, the saint of J6? Nevermind, she deserved and got a cool $5 million

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

How about the fact that his own actions condemned him. The newest videos PROVE that Pretti has a history of violence against law enforcement. He carried a gun while committing those acts of violence and while resisting arrest.

He died because of his own refusal to be peaceful while carrying a gun. He wasn't executed. He wasn't murdered. He committed suicide by cop.

So, it is your belief that protesters do not have the right to carry guns?
Assuming the video does actually show him, it was not on the day of the killing.
And he was on the ground, helpless when they found the gun.

 

[HisArpy]

So, it is your belief that protesters do not have the right to carry guns?
Assuming the video does actually show him, it was not on the day of the killing.
And he was on the ground, helpless when they found the gun.

Here in California there's a specific prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon during a strike or protest.

Why?

Because guns and heightened emotional states don't mix well. Those who are running on adrenaline and emotion tend to stop thinking logically and instead act rashly with often tragic consequences. As we just saw in Minneapolis.

I haven't checked but I find it hard, if not impossible, to believe that Minnesota doesn't have a similar statute.

What I find nearly unfathomable is that YOU and the rest of the Liberal progressive Democrats are supporting a guy carrying a gun while voluntarily placing himself into a dangerous and violent situation. YOU, the gun hating Left, are supporting a guy with a gun.

It's unfathomable. It's illogical. And the only reason you're doing it is because of TDS. You hate Trump so much you can't even stick to your own principles. You won't even condemn someone for doing what you are against merely because he was out there protesting against Trump.

Which is about as wishy-wash and mealy mouthed as anyone can get.

Welcome to your Liberal Leftist Wingnut Democrat party. The entire lot of you are cowards and liars.

 

[Wilson23]

Here in California there's a specific prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon during a strike or protest.

Why?

Because guns and heightened emotional states don't mix well. Those who are running on adrenaline and emotion tend to stop thinking logically and instead act rashly with often tragic consequences. As we just saw in Minneapolis.

I haven't checked but I find it hard, if not impossible, to believe that Minnesota doesn't have a similar statute.

What I find nearly unfathomable is that YOU and the rest of the Liberal progressive Democrats are supporting a guy carrying a gun while voluntarily placing himself into a dangerous and violent situation.

It is NOT unreasonable -- because that encounter would have ended the same way if Pretti had not been armed, and THAT is what is being protested. The gun on his person might as well have been a banana.

 

[HisArpy]

It is NOT unreasonable -- because that encounter would have ended the same way if Pretti had not been armed, and THAT is what is being protested. The gun on his person might as well have been a banana.

This is not only conjecture, it's also a knowing lie.

Had Pretti not been armed, then ICE agents wouldn't have seen his gun, called out "GUN" and subsequently go into overdrive which resulted in hair trigger nerves firing multiple shots after Pretti's gun discharged.

You KNOW this. Yet you spew the lie and bullshit anyway. Because you're so wrapped up in your narrative you cannot ever speak the truth.

 

[nudeblaqgirl]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016635700922175866

Looked for trouble

Found IT

He was a gun owner,dipshit. That means he's on "your" side.

Well, actually you don't have a side. Even republitards hate you because your moronic posts are an embarassment even to them.

Plus, everyone suspects you're actually a KneeGrow. You are in such deep denial over everything, when it's revealed that you're a gay black man, everything will finally make sense.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Sooo, Pretti WAS known as a violent asshole to ICE after all.

 

[ll74]

Sooo, Pretti WAS known as a violent asshole to ICE after all.

Ok.
And so that's why he was killed?

 

[Rebel5soul]

Ok.
And so that's why he was killed?

The path to Pretti's death started with the Governor's and Mayor's decisions to not allow the local and state police to do their jobs.

 

[ll74]

The path to Pretti's death started with the Governor's and Mayor's decisions to not allow the local and state police to do their jobs.

So that's why he was killed?

 

[oryginalny]

He was a gun owner,dipshit. That means he's on "your" side.

Well, actually you don't have a side. Even republitards hate you because your moronic posts are an embarassment even to them.

Plus, everyone suspects you're actually a KneeGrow. You are in such deep denial over everything, when it's revealed that you're a gay black man, everything will finally make sense.

Must be.\nTough going through life being a reetard and black

 

[nudeblaqgirl]

Must be.\nTough going through life being a reetard and black

Is it? You would know.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Here in California there's a specific prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon during a strike or protest.

Why?

Because guns and heightened emotional states don't mix well. Those who are running on adrenaline and emotion tend to stop thinking logically and instead act rashly with often tragic consequences. As we just saw in Minneapolis.

I haven't checked but I find it hard, if not impossible, to believe that Minnesota doesn't have a similar statute.

What I find nearly unfathomable is that YOU and the rest of the Liberal progressive Democrats are supporting a guy carrying a gun while voluntarily placing himself into a dangerous and violent situation. YOU, the gun hating Left, are supporting a guy with a gun.

It's unfathomable. It's illogical. And the only reason you're doing it is because of TDS. You hate Trump so much you can't even stick to your own principles. You won't even condemn someone for doing what you are against merely because he was out there protesting against Trump.

Which is about as wishy-wash and mealy mouthed as anyone can get.

Welcome to your Liberal Leftist Wingnut Democrat party. The entire lot of you are cowards and liars.

I agree that it was unwise for him to carry a concealed weapon when he went to the protest. However, there is no law against it in Minnesota, so he is acting consistent with his rights.

I don't hate guns. I think that there should be limitations on the right to own automatice or semi-automatic weapons, but if they are permitted by the law, then the same rules should apply to people of all political persuasions.

What I find hard to understand is why people who purport to believe in freedom would be comfortable with masked federal forces grabbing people off the street and being told that they are permitted to break into people's homes without a judicial warrant. Does that sound like freedom to you? How would you respond if that were happening in your neighborhood? Would you be angry?

 

[HisArpy]

I agree that it was unwise for him to carry a concealed weapon when he went to the protest. However, there is no law against it in Minnesota, so he is acting consistent with his rights.

True, Mn doesn't prohibit guns at rallies/protests/strikes. But then Pretti got deaders for being a dipwad with a gun in public.

.

I don't hate guns. I think that there should be limitations on the right to own automatice or semi-automatic weapons, but if they are permitted by the law, then the same rules should apply to people of all political persuasions.

You are allowed to say that you hate guns. Especially since it's true because you put so many conditions on gun ownership that it's very apparent that you hate guns.

What I find hard to understand is why people who purport to believe in freedom would be comfortable with masked federal forces grabbing people off the street and being told that they are permitted to break into people's homes without a judicial warrant. Does that sound like freedom to you? How would you respond if that were happening in your neighborhood? Would you be angry?

ICE isn't "grabbing people off the street." That you even repeat that lie shows that you're invested in the narrative and not the truth.

After practicing law for 30 years, I'm good with what ICE is doing. Why? Because they have arrest warrants for the target subject. And if they find other illegal immigrants keeping company with the target subject, they can scoop them up too.

And of course, when dipwads with guns show up to spit on the agents, break Federal property, and generally act like an out of control lunatic, when ICE scoops them up, I'm good with that too. I'm even more good with ICE defending themselves from insane people trying to kill or maim them.

You know what I'm not good with? People who lie about what's going on in order to push a fake narrative of lawlessness and crime by the good guys who are just trying to do their jobs.

 

[Hel_Books]

You know what I'm not good with? People who lie about what's going on

You mean like Trump and his lackeys calling a 37-year-old mother of three and an ICU nurse "domestic terrorists"?

 

[Hel_Books]

Had Pretti not been armed, then ICE agents wouldn't have seen his gun, called out "GUN" and subsequently go into overdrive which resulted in hair trigger nerves firing multiple shots after Pretti's gun discharged.

Actually, they took away his gun, slammed him to the ground and then shot him ten times.

It's dangerous protesting in your country, but that doesn't seem to prevent people from exercising their first amendment rights to protest.

Remember all those people walking across the Edmund Pettus bridge?

 

[Lazaran]

You know what I'm not good with? People who lie about what's going on in order to push a fake narrative of lawlessness and crime by the good guys who are just trying to do their jobs.

Derpy posts this ^ while simultaneously LYING by omission regarding the very nature of / justification for the massive deployment of ICE agents, etc. That LIE of omission being the OBVIOUS act of "RETRIBUTION!!!" by DonOld & the MAGAt republicans via a surge of ICE agents, etc using sketchy claims about child daycare fraud, etc as an excuse to terrorize entire communities & states.



Derpy



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[PaxNurgle]

The path to Pretti's death started with the Governor's and Mayor's decisions to not allow the local and state police to do their jobs.

This makes no sense.

The local police report to the mayor, the state police report to the governor. Rounding up women and children, SS Sturmkommando Style, was not their jurisdiction. Their duty was to protect and to serve their constituents.

 

[Rebel5soul]

This makes no sense.

The local police report to the mayor, the state police report to the governor. Rounding up women and children, SS Sturmkommando Style, was not their jurisdiction. Their duty was to protect and to serve their constituents.

Of course it doesn't to you. You don't know how shit works. State and local law enforcement are trained in crowd control and less than lethal defensive tactics, federal agents are trained in neither.

So the shit for brains mayor and governor did not deploy their police because they didn't want to be seen as "aiding ICE." They never thought of it as protecting their citizens from the consequences to really bad decisions. Maybe they should going forward.

 

[Bray123]

The Border Patrol (not ICE) didn't know that Pretti was armed until he was arrested and restrained for helping a woman to her feet after she had been rudely pushed over in the snow.

The BP found a lawfully carried firearm, panicked and emptied their own guns into his back whilst he was lying face down in the snow. It seems possible that the agent who took his firearm ran with his finger on the trigger and negligently discharged it into the road surface. That sent the poorly trained, nervous and incompetent rest into a frenzy.

Anyone who says that he was shot for being an armed terrorist is a fool, because he wasn't a terrorist and he was fully restrained before the gun was discovered. You'd hope that any cop would have behaved with more competence.

 

[Lazaran]

Of course it doesn't to you. You don't know how shit works. State and local law enforcement are trained in crowd control and less than lethal defensive tactics, federal agents are trained in neither.

So the shit for brains mayor and governor did not deploy their police because they didn't want to be seen as "aiding ICE." They never thought of it as protecting their citizens from the consequences to really bad decisions. Maybe they should going forward.

Nah, Raciat5soul aka Shit4brains, the state and local police (the state of Minnesota, etc) are NOT paid (funded) to assist DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ racist, fascist FEDERAL goon squads with their wide ranging unconstitutional activities. And if the state of Minnesota or city of Minneapolis, etc voluntarily assisted DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ racist, fascist FEDERAL goon squads, then it would appear as if they were willfully cooperating / complicit with DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ racist, fascist unconstitutional policies / actions (which would give DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ racist, fascist policies / actions a veneer of legitimacy).



Bottom line: This is DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ bastard baby, and they’re going to have to take responsibility for it, pay for it, and deal with the mess it made.

Hope that ^ helps.



Racist5soul aka Shit4brains





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The country's top expert in the law of self-defense weighs in. The firearm matters—and the media is hiding it. At the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooting, the suspect was armed with a SIG Sauer P320 AXG Combat, a high-capacity 9mm pistol with a threaded barrel, an extended 20–21 round magazine, and a SIG Romeo optic—a setup costing $1,500–$2,000. This was not a cheap carry gun.
Officers were in a physical struggle with an armed suspect when a gun was perceived, and the word “gun” was shouted. Under settled self-defense law, officers are entitled to rely on fellow officers’ reasonable perceptions. They do not have to personally confirm the threat.
Once a firearm appears during active resistance, the legal standard is simple: reasonable perception of imminent deadly force. That standard was met here. Freeze-frame activism doesn’t override real-time dynamics, and the law does not require officers to wait to be shot. This was a tragic—but lawful—use of force.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The country's top expert in the law of self-defense weighs in. The firearm matters—and the media is hiding it. At the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooting, the suspect was armed with a SIG Sauer P320 AXG Combat, a high-capacity 9mm pistol with a threaded barrel, an extended 20–21 round magazine, and a SIG Romeo optic—a setup costing $1,500–$2,000. This was not a cheap carry gun.
Officers were in a physical struggle with an armed suspect when a gun was perceived, and the word “gun” was shouted. Under settled self-defense law, officers are entitled to rely on fellow officers’ reasonable perceptions. They do not have to personally confirm the threat.
Once a firearm appears during active resistance, the legal standard is simple: reasonable perception of imminent deadly force. That standard was met here. Freeze-frame activism doesn’t override real-time dynamics, and the law does not require officers to wait to be shot. This was a tragic—but lawful—use of force.

All this can be argued at the agents’ murder trial. Let them convince a jury.

 

[Rebel5soul]

All this can be argued at the agents’ murder trial. Let them convince a jury.

Sorry, settled law. "Boom, boom, boom, out go the lights."

 

[Bray123]

The country's top expert in the law of self-defense weighs in. The firearm matters—and the media is hiding it. At the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooting, the suspect was armed with a SIG Sauer P320 AXG Combat, a high-capacity 9mm pistol with a threaded barrel, an extended 20–21 round magazine, and a SIG Romeo optic—a setup costing $1,500–$2,000. This was not a cheap carry gun.
Officers were in a physical struggle with an armed suspect when a gun was perceived, and the word “gun” was shouted. Under settled self-defense law, officers are entitled to rely on fellow officers’ reasonable perceptions. They do not have to personally confirm the threat.
Once a firearm appears during active resistance, the legal standard is simple: reasonable perception of imminent deadly force. That standard was met here. Freeze-frame activism doesn’t override real-time dynamics, and the law does not require officers to wait to be shot. This was a tragic—but lawful—use of force.

They thought they might be shot by a guy lying face down with his hands behind his back?

If they thought they were in danger after hearing someone scream 'gun' they would have fired into the crowd instead of the guy's back. They continued firing into his back until their guns were empty, leaving them incapable of defending themselves from the attack they were scared of.