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Shitty Pretti deserved it

MEDIAITE: BBC Confirms Authenticity of Viral Video Appearing to Show Alex Pretti Kicking Agents’ Car 11 Days Before Shooting. “The BBC confirmed the authenticity of the video in their 10 p.m. GMT news broadcast. Reporter Ros Atkins said the man in the video ‘has the same coat, facial hair and gait as Alex Pretti and a facial recognition tool suggests a 97% match. We see him shouting abuse at the agents.’ Separately, a spokesperson for the BBC confirmed to Mediaite that they reviewed the footage and verified its team did use facial recognition technology on the video.”
 
oryginalny said:
MEDIAITE: BBC Confirms Authenticity of Viral Video Appearing to Show Alex Pretti Kicking Agents’ Car 11 Days Before Shooting. “The BBC confirmed the authenticity of the video in their 10 p.m. GMT news broadcast. Reporter Ros Atkins said the man in the video ‘has the same coat, facial hair and gait as Alex Pretti and a facial recognition tool suggests a 97% match. We see him shouting abuse at the agents.’ Separately, a spokesperson for the BBC confirmed to Mediaite that they reviewed the footage and verified its team did use facial recognition technology on the video.”
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They didn't need to go that far. His parents verified it was him.

Doesn't change a thing.
 
oryginalny said:
MEDIAITE: BBC Confirms Authenticity of Viral Video Appearing to Show Alex Pretti Kicking Agents’ Car 11 Days Before Shooting. “The BBC confirmed the authenticity of the video in their 10 p.m. GMT news broadcast. Reporter Ros Atkins said the man in the video ‘has the same coat, facial hair and gait as Alex Pretti and a facial recognition tool suggests a 97% match. We see him shouting abuse at the agents.’ Separately, a spokesperson for the BBC confirmed to Mediaite that they reviewed the footage and verified its team did use facial recognition technology on the video.”
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This would've been excellent evidence to increase his sentence at a federal hearing.

Has no bearing on the killing.
 
oryginalny said:
He axed for it

He got what he axed for

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016700958315593760
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Are agents supposed to assault people when they tell them to assault them?

If a person told an agent to kill them, what would happen if that agent complied?

How does law enforcement work again? Isn't there a document that explains these things at a.high level? Maybe with some.rights?

And I bet you think that I'm defending Pretti here in some way.
 
Pretti made some bad decisions.

He didn't deserve to be killed from any of them.
 
ll74 said:
Pretti made some bad decisions.

He didn't deserve to be killed from any of them.
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The irony here is people rallying that he deserved it because of the video don’t realize it proves ICE knew who he was and gave them an excuse to kill him to make an example of him, this went from manslaughter to first degree murder, his gun was holstered, he never reached for it and it actually discharged only after the ICE agent disarmed him and was holding it, meaning he heard his own gunshot and they took that as an excuse to pretend he pulled the trigger, not them and filled him full of lead.
 
SavannaT said:
The irony here is people rallying that he deserved it because of the video don’t realize it proves ICE knew who he was and gave them an excuse to kill him to make an example of him, this went from manslaughter to first degree murder, his gun was holstered, he never reached for it and it actually discharged only after the ICE agent disarmed him and was holding it, meaning he heard his own gunshot and they took that as an excuse to pretend he pulled the trigger, not them and filled him full of lead.
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The burden of responsibility will always be on the law enforcement person. It is not their job to escalate a situation, even if provoked to do so. When agents shoved a woman to the ground, that was an escalation that was unnecessary. When agents immediately deployed pepper spray when the man's hands were up in the air, that was unnecessary.

I get it, people need to account for their own actions. I am not defending Pretti, outside of that he was helping a woman up who was unnecessarily thrown to the ground. But even if he did assault of confront the agent physically, that does not immediately allow the agent to shoot.

I believe that there is reasoning in the previous case of the car where you could see imminent harm may be perceived by the agent. In this case, there's not, imo.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
I’m surprised to see you turning against Charlie Kirk. Kirk was a bad guy with bad ideas, but I don’t know if I’d go so far as to categorize him as “evil”.
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He was racist, sexist and definitely a piece of crap but understood his voice was only allowed because everyone was allowed to speak, which is a point missed by most who see him as a martyr and used his death to silence others, the fallout of his death inverted his few somewhat positive (free speech, right to bear arms, “keep my batshit wife out of my business”)
 
SavannaT said:
He was racist, sexist and definitely a piece of crap but understood his voice was only allowed because everyone was allowed to speak, which is a point missed by most who see him as a martyr and used his death to silence others, the fallout of his death inverted his few somewhat positive (free speech, right to bear arms, “keep my batshit wife out of my business”)
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Who silenced whom?
 
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