Shared Credit on Collaborations?

[Otto26]

When I last worked with a voice actor here on Literotica (a decade ago) I wrote a couple of stories and they read them. When I submitted the first one it was credited to my account and not to theirs. When I submitted the second one I requested that it be listed under both our accounts. This wasn't possible, the audio story was never published, and was ultimately deleted.

So my question is: When I collaborate with a voice actor who has an account here on Literotica, how do I submit it so that we both get credit for it? How do you do it?

Thank you.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Literotica does not support credit for multiple artists in any way. There needs to be a primary artist who can signify a collaborator if they so choose.

 

[Otto26]

In the case of voice acting I assume that the voice actor is the primary?

 

[AwkwardMD]

In the case of voice acting I assume that the voice actor is the primary?

I think the case could be made for either one, but usually yes, I would agree that the voice actor would take top billing.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I have this issue at the moment. One VA I've worked with has kindly said she doesn't mind the audios going under my username. Another I'm working with is probably going to put them under his. Just discuss it like adults or toss a coin if you have to.

I'm wondering about possibly putting the audio under the VA and a transcript under the author (with a link to the audio) but I'm not sure if that's allowed.

 

[Otto26]

I'm wondering about possibly putting the audio under the VA and a transcript under the author (with a link to the audio) but I'm not sure if that's allowed.

I like that solution. If you manage to make it work please let me know.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I have this issue at the moment. One VA I've worked with has kindly said she doesn't mind the audios going under my username. Another I'm working with is probably going to put them under his. Just discuss it like adults or toss a coin if you have to.

I'm wondering about possibly putting the audio under the VA and a transcript under the author (with a link to the audio) but I'm not sure if that's allowed.

I feel like I remember Laurel once telling me Lit doesn't want redundant content, but I'm so fuzzy on the context that I'm not sure it applies to this example.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I like that solution. If you manage to make it work please let me know.

Will do.

I feel like I remember Laurel once telling me Lit doesn't want redundant content, but I'm so fuzzy on the context that I'm not sure it applies to this example.

I think her rule makes sense for copies of stories which are the same or almost the same. I think this might get through as they are essentially different versions. I've heard other people mention before that they've been allowed linking submission to works they've collaborated on. Anyway, I won't know until I try it.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Literotica does not support credit for multiple artists in any way. There needs to be a primary artist who can signify a collaborator if they so choose.

Not strictly true. I've presented collabs like this:

The Floating World - Transgendence

where one writer carries the whole story (in this case @stickygirl), and my account carried the intro (the link is to the intro). Laurel suggested this approach as the best the site could do - all we had to do was coordinate the timing of our submissions, and Laurel joined them together.

It would work well for the stories you co-write with others, I'd have thought.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Not strictly true. I've presented collabs like this:

That's the two of you doing the thing I said.


Only one author listed in the way the site lists authors.



No link to "The next chapter" like there would be if everything was posted on a single account. You two definitely went a step further to share the content between two accounts, but in both cases this is you two choosing to acknowledge each other rather than the site supporting collaboration in any official sense.

This is an excellent example of how it can be done within the technical limitations of the site.

 

[ElectricBlue]

That's the two of you doing the thing I said.

Only one author listed in the way the site lists authors.

It's listed in @stickygirl's story list as well as mine. Her account has the whole story, my account has the first thousand words, then a link to the whole story. I've got another collab where it was done the other way around, and two other collabs where we agreed to run it in just one account.

Ah, but now I see what you mean - only one author shows in each of our lists, so it's not clear until you open it, that someone else is involved.

No link to "The next chapter" like there would be if everything was posted on a single account. You two definitely went a step further to share the content between two accounts, but in both cases this is you two choosing to acknowledge each other rather than the site supporting collaboration in any official sense.

No chapters, it was a single submission.

I asked Laurel how we could do it, this method was her suggestion. It needs manual intervention, true, but we managed to coordinate our inputs from the UK and Australia at the same time, to Literotica in the USA.

This is an excellent example of how it can be done within the technical limitations of the site.

It is a site limitation, yes, but it works okay, in that the story gets reader feeds from both our accounts. It's a better way, I think, than setting up a separate shared account (coz that's starting from zero), and better than choosing to put it in just one account (because you only get the one feed).

 

[stickygirl]

It's listed in @stickygirl's story list as well as mine. Her account has the whole story, my account has the first thousand words, then a link to the whole story. I've got another collab where it was done the other way around, and two other collabs where we agreed to run it in just one account.

Ah, but now I see what you mean - only one author shows in each of our lists, so it's not clear until you open it, that someone else is involved.

No chapters, it was a single submission.

I asked Laurel how we could do it, this method was her suggestion. It needs manual intervention, true, but we managed to coordinate our inputs from the UK and Australia at the same time, to Literotica in the USA.

It is a site limitation, yes, but it works okay, in that the story gets reader feeds from both our accounts. It's a better way, I think, than setting up a separate shared account (coz that's starting from zero), and better than choosing to put it in just one account (because you only get the one feed).

Wow - Transgendence. You weren't sure about my suggested title but were gracious enough to let me have my way. I re-read a little just now. Who was that person who wrote with you? I'm often baffled looking back at such things.
Laurel was kind to allow us the link up and it works out okay for the reader I think.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Wow - Transgendence. You weren't sure about my suggested title but were gracious enough to let me have my way. I re-read a little just now. Who was that person who wrote with you? I'm often baffled looking back at such things.
Laurel was kind to allow us the link up and it works out okay for the reader I think.

I look at that story, and ask the same question; who was that man, who was that woman? I can still remember looking silently at the screen when I read your last scene, thinking, what just happened...

 

[Otto26]

Re-visiting this and brainstorming.

I'd prefer to convert my stories to audiobooks using text to speech, even with the lower quality, but that door is closed so that idea is gone.

Which means I'll need to work with voice actors. Free voice actors. Fine, they'll produce much higher quality works. But crediting is still an issue. I would prefer for the conversion/audio files to appear in my catalog of works AND in the catalog of the voice actors. Which is apparently not technically possible.

Please note that these are not your standard audio scripts, these are conversions of existing third-person, past-tense stories into audio format. So publishing a script in the author catalog and the performance in the performers catalog isn't really an option.

The voice performer is open to the idea of me publishing the audio into my catalog. But I'm leaning towards having it in her catalog. For a lot of reasons. Which was a big part of why I wanted to do TTS instead. But here we are.

So, working on the assumption that the audiobook conversion of my story will be published to the performers catalog, how do I get any benefit out of this? My followers won't get notification that new content has been posted. People browsing my catalog won't see audio work in it.

-I could publish a short audio work that says "Hey, I worked with a voice actor to convert story X to an audiobook. You can listen to it over at the voice performers catalog. Please support her work." I suspect the site owners wouldn't go for this.

-I can update the description of my story to include a link to the audio file. But no notifications of new content. I'll still do this, but it doesn't get me all of what I want.

-I can pull the story, break it into chapters, and resubmit it as a series with links to the audio file in the descriptions. Which is unappealing for a variety of reasons. I might be tempted if I could submit 'cover art' for the series but I've determined that's a non-starter for other reasons.

-I could use a voice-changing application to read the stories myself. But that costs money and I'd have to lie about how I generated the content. I don't want to do that.

Any other ideas I've missed?