Scott Brown Stuns Martha Coakley
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Webb just killed health care
In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.
In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.
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I can't say I'd be all that sorry to see that bill bite the dust, but I have a feeling they are going to pass something.
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Martha = Hil.
Scott = Obama.
The bottom line is that the democratic party is an ineffective pile of horse's asses who didn't actually learn ANYTHING from the presidential election and thought that warming the benches with their prodigious butts is good enough and they deserve seats just for being so GREAT.
Republicans, for all their completely idiocy, may have been following the playbook a little better. Like, get the fuck OUT there.
Scott = Obama.
The bottom line is that the democratic party is an ineffective pile of horse's asses who didn't actually learn ANYTHING from the presidential election and thought that warming the benches with their prodigious butts is good enough and they deserve seats just for being so GREAT.
Republicans, for all their completely idiocy, may have been following the playbook a little better. Like, get the fuck OUT there.
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Yes and yes.
And when the entire economy continues to stall, it'll be at least another 10 years before someone says "we need to look at this trickle down thing again."
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Well, the big issues aren't going anywhere. THey'll either get dealt with, or they'll blow up.
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No shit.
Coakley bristles at the suggestion that, with so little time left, in an election with such high stakes, she is being too passive. “As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?’’ she fires back, in an apparent reference to a Brown online video of him doing just that.
She was worse than the most unflattering stereotype of HRC. Colder, more aloof, totally unable/unwilling to engage with actual voters. And she employed the ad strategy of the worst of John McCain.... with the added kicker of misspelling her own state's name in the final frame.
Coakley.
For contrast, see Brown.
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In a perfect world, Scott Brown would bring the lessons learned from implementing mandatory universal health coverage in Massachusetts (for which he voted) to the U.S. House/Senate reconciliation process, in an attempt to strengthen and improve the national bill.
But of course, this is not a perfect world, and McConnell et al will surely force him to toe the Republican line of flat out obstruction.
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In Freakonomics, Steven Levit reported on an analysis of political election results. What he found was that the factor that correlated most closely with winning campaigns was the public's sense of how likable the opponents were. This factor correlated more closely than such things as having policies that the preferences of the voting public, for example. The factor of likability includes not only personality traits but appearance and behavior on the campaign trail. Politicians have known this for centuries, and it's one reason why it is de rigeur to shake hands outside factory gates, inside diners, and outside ballparks.
From this vantage point, Coakley could have proven that she was Teddy Kennedy reincarnated and still would have lost the election due to her outward personality and campaign behaviors that influenced the public's perception of her likability.
From this vantage point, Coakley could have proven that she was Teddy Kennedy reincarnated and still would have lost the election due to her outward personality and campaign behaviors that influenced the public's perception of her likability.
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You say that as if it's a bad thing.
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Yes, well, true.
But if you've ever spent time around a two-year old, one defining trait is saying "NO" a lot without offering alternative workable solutions to problems.
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Agreed.
Now if they HAD a brain, they'd be grabbing the ball from Romney and running like fuck, and even getting MY vote if I thought they'd get more done than these other ignoramuses. I'd swallow a whole shitpile of forced christianization, war, tax shelters, and deregulation if I thought that american people AND businesses would get out of the health clusterfuck.
But they're not going to do anything.
They see no crisis. Continuing on as we are actually appears to be an option for these people.
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Yes, well, true.
But if you've ever spent time around a two-year old, one defining trait is saying "NO" a lot without offering alternative workable solutions to problems.
I suspect that our difference in perspective is this. I don't want or expect government to solve the problem of health care. I don't trust them on this issue anymore than I trust them to make Social Security solvent, or Amtrak to run on time.
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Then what's your answer to this? How do you propose to fix the problem, or are you one of those who doesn't see a problem in the American health care system?
If you don't trust the government to do this, who do you trust?
Netzach
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Then the post office and of course the Armed forces are also incompetent.
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Netzach
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You guys don't get it.
If I cling to the fantasy that whatever the government would do to me is worse than what Blue Cross is doing to me, then I can pretend I've got a nice piece of pie I'm entitled to here, instead of a shit sandwich. Because admitting that I work as hard as I do, and M works as hard as he does so we can eat shit and die, is really too much to handle. Candy mountain charlieeeeee.
If I cling to the fantasy that whatever the government would do to me is worse than what Blue Cross is doing to me, then I can pretend I've got a nice piece of pie I'm entitled to here, instead of a shit sandwich. Because admitting that I work as hard as I do, and M works as hard as he does so we can eat shit and die, is really too much to handle. Candy mountain charlieeeeee.
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Private insurance companies soak up billions of healthcare of dollars and provide ZERO value added to the system. In fact, from an efficiency standpoint, they're a detriment.
Why don't more people understand those concepts? THAT is what I honestly don't get.
Why don't more people understand those concepts? THAT is what I honestly don't get.
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Netzach
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Bear with the annoying voices and think about private insurance and the GOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJCNNwHUOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJCNNwHUOE
