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Sandy Hook, One Year Later: No Gun Control in Sight

vetteman said:
We register, tax, license, and test, drivers nationwide and 40,000 a year still die. End of argument about the effectiveness of government control.:rolleyes:
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But, that is no argument against the effectiveness of our system for licensing, etc., drivers. As you would see if you thought for one minute about how the roads would be without it.
 
KingOrfeo said:
But, that is no argument against the effectiveness of our system for licensing, etc., drivers. As you would see if you thought for one minute about how the roads would be without it.
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Over 40,00 killed by cars each year, quite effective. :cool:
 
BotanyBoy said:
I would too, god knows I'm not a fan of the GOP's 2 faced bullshit.

But you're right it's a waste of time/energy.
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Hey BB, those damn Republicans that run Wall Mart still sell guns while handing out food stamps to the workers who are trying to feed their families on minimum wage!;)
 
contrifan32 said:
Hey BB, those damn Republicans that run Wall Mart still sell guns while handing out food stamps to the workers who are trying to feed their families on minimum wage!;)
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but the employees get 10% off guns and ammo. :cool:
 
Only the morally bankrupt and mentally defective like kingofTards, ud, dick daily, merc, the throve, rjasshat, the seans want government to imprison citizens

The sane person only wants govenment to protect our rights
 
Sean Renaud said:
It's not a tragedy it's a Tuesday. Stop lying.
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It was a tragedy and due to it's nature very visible in the media.

However the risk of any average US citizen dying in a spree killing is so miniscule that it can be considered statistically insignificant. Consequently we are not dealing with a major problem here.

There are roughly 17.000 gun-related deaths in the US every year, half of which are suicides (people who would kill themselves by other means anyway). Compare this to the 700.000 deaths per year from heart disease and circulatory problems. Statistically we could save a lot more lives by "fastfood control" than "gun control"....
 
StrangeLife said:
Compare this to the 700.000 deaths per year from heart disease and circulatory problems. Statistically we could save a lot more lives by "fastfood control" than "gun control"....
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That's like saying we could save more lives with lower speed limits. True, but irrelevant -- not any argument against gun control.
 
Oh! Gun control!

There's an idea, let's all be stupid and then things will work out.
 
KingOrfeo said:
That's like saying we could save more lives with lower speed limits. True, but irrelevant -- not any argument against gun control.
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Control my fucking shotgun.

It'll put a hole in you the size of a dinner plate.

Control it.

Go on... do it.

Yeah. Just what I thought. Pussy.
 
Lots of big talk going on in here.

Talk about "controlling guns."

Get shot, and then talk.

Maroons...
 
You can't stop insanity by taking away everyone's tools.

That's not going to work.

You can't ban hammers because one person smashed another's head in with a hammer.

That just means that we have no way to drive in nails anymore.
 
StrangeLife said:
It was a tragedy and due to it's nature very visible in the media.

However the risk of any average US citizen dying in a spree killing is so miniscule that it can be considered statistically insignificant. Consequently we are not dealing with a major problem here.

There are roughly 17.000 gun-related deaths in the US every year, half of which are suicides (people who would kill themselves by other means anyway). Compare this to the 700.000 deaths per year from heart disease and circulatory problems. Statistically we could save a lot more lives by "fastfood control" than "gun control"....
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No, it's not a tragedy, it's a Tuesday. Things you don't work to prevent cannot be treated as tragedies, especially not when you actively fight to keep them possible.

It is true that your chances of being killed in a spree killing or even killed period are low, low enough that you could call them statistically insignificant if we're talking sheerd numbers. (Which is a fair argument.)

Stats have NOT shown that those people with guns would have managed to kill themselves with another weapon. You want to believe that because a large part of your argument hinges on it but it doesn't hodl true. Guns are more fatal than most of the methods (as someone pointed out people who REALLY want dead don't shoot themselves, they step in front of trains.) nearly every other method takes longer and produce more survivors. Now personally I pro-euthanasia. If you're tired of living for whatever reason, you're over eighteen and you agree not to make a mess of things on the way out that's your business and I have no right to stop you. There is a lot of evidence that most suicide attempts are actually cries for help. I'll quote Buffy: "Crying help in a loud voice is a cry for help. That's just stupid." Doesn't change the fact that a lot of those 8k deaths would survive and end up getting help if they didn't have guns available.

We actually HAVE fast food control (not that it would save the majority of those lives who are older people who would die of something sooner than later ANYWAY) but they went out a few years back and put labels on everything, they are talking about a transfat ban and that's just on the government level. We could probably do more, and save lots of lives. That as Orf points out doesn't make an argument.

KingOrfeo said:
That's like saying we could save more lives with lower speed limits. True, but irrelevant -- not any argument against gun control.
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Yep.

Naughtius Maximus said:
You can't stop insanity by taking away everyone's tools.

That's not going to work.

You can't ban hammers because one person smashed another's head in with a hammer.

That just means that we have no way to drive in nails anymore.
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Can we stop banning nukes just cus one country once got nuked by some country filled with dicks? Sure the next coutnry MIGHT be Israel but you might be the next person shot.
 
Nobody gives a fuck how many people are killed by guns. All that matters is we have the unimpaired ability to return fire.

If one schoolchild can be saved because a teacher or a janitor had a pistol within reach when a spree shooter came on campus, it doesn't matter if 21 or 210 schoolchildren die because anyone in this country who really wants a gun can get one.

There is no gun control unless a person has to ask permission to own a gun and we aren't going to allow that.
 
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