rope/escape play?

[bourbonslut]

anybody know anything about when you bind your partner in rope and they make a game of getting out in a certain period of time? (with suitable punishment/reward for the 'winner'?) I've never read anything about this particular game.

any good sources, sites for more information and for rope bondage in general?

thanks.

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

Played this as a kid.

anybody know anything about when you bind your partner in rope and they make a game of getting out in a certain period of time? (with suitable punishment/reward for the 'winner'?) I've never read anything about this particular game.

any good sources, sites for more information and for rope bondage in general?

thanks.

When I was a kid we combined the tied up with what we called "it." Instead of hiding one eyes and counting to 100 and then going to search for evryone who tried to get to base free. I version, we tied up whoever was "it" and he had to get untied to come looking. No tags just pop with a cap pistol before someone got to base. They outlawed me. I tied up everyone so thoroughly they couldn't get loose. Fun, fun --but there was no game. Hey all I know is make up your own rules. Whatever penalty you choose.

For ropes --try MIdori- she has great knowledge of the subject. The name of the book escapes me-I'm sure you can find it if you do a search for Midori,
BUT a person tied up by her procedures probably couldn't get lose!!

experiment-experiment---not too tight -circulation you know and nothing around the head or neck.. GOOD LUCK

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Off course I meant that it how we played "hide and go seek" but we called the game "it" LOL---memory

 

[Netzach]

I know how to win this game, pretty much every time, as the person tying the rope.

 

[bourbonslut]

I'm not talking about kids' games and frankly i find that patronizing.

I strive to tie as well and tightly and elegantly as possible. my friend strives to puzzle and fight his way out. It's a challenge for both of us, but i have never experienced it. I"ve been doing some research on some web sites but want to know more, as does he.

I just want to know, is this a recognized or familiar form of play? and, where can i learn more about it and rope play in general?

the response has been dismissive. or nonexistent for the most part. I find the BDSM world very inflexible in many ways. Is this true?

 

[Netzach]

I'm not talking about kids' games and frankly i find that patronizing.

I strive to tie as well and tightly and elegantly as possible. my friend strives to puzzle and fight his way out. It's a challenge for both of us, but i have never experienced it. I"ve been doing some research on some web sites but want to know more, as does he.

I just want to know, is this a recognized or familiar form of play? and, where can i learn more about it and rope play in general?

the response has been dismissive. or nonexistent for the most part. I find the BDSM world very inflexible in many ways. Is this true?

I have definitely heard of this kind of play, and done very seriously between a certain subset of people. You're right, the BDSM world gives lip service to a lot of specific fetishes or doesn't get them, but I think this kind of a game between partners makes sense.

I don't approach rope competitively, more meditatively. That doesn't mean I won't eventually get that escape-ee bottom.

I am very serious about rope as well, and didn't mean to be un-useful -- the person who taught me the "endgame" maneuver is a very accomplished and well known rigger, MorTis out of Chicago.


If you tie the "chicken wings" well, it is essentially unescapable.
I highly recommend the website he ran for a while here http://www.bdsm-chicago.com/cram/index.html
it's a little short on visuals, but informative

This isn't rope related, but if you are interested in escape as a fetish, you might have fun looking at www.maxcita.com

He sells some really specialized and amazing gear.

 

[FurryFury]

I have definitely heard of this kind of play, and done very seriously between a certain subset of people. You're right, the BDSM world gives lip service to a lot of specific fetishes or doesn't get them, but I think this kind of a game between partners makes sense.

I don't approach rope competitively, more meditatively. That doesn't mean I won't eventually get that escape-ee bottom.

I am very serious about rope as well, and didn't mean to be un-useful -- the person who taught me the "endgame" maneuver is a very accomplished and well known rigger, MorTis out of Chicago.


If you tie the "chicken wings" well, it is essentially unescapable.
I highly recommend the website he ran for a while here http://www.bdsm-chicago.com/cram/index.html
it's a little short on visuals, but informative

This isn't rope related, but if you are interested in escape as a fetish, you might have fun looking at www.maxcita.com

He sells some really specialized and amazing gear.

These is a great link about rope play, thank you.

It looks like I'm going to be doing more and more rope play and bondage, so I need to study up on it and get it down pat.


Fury

 

[bourbonslut]

thanks for the cool links!

 

[FurryFury]

Free shots at Fury

Okay I think I may have a bad attitude about this. See the other night he wanted to be tied up and a lot of other stuff. So I was happy to do that. He even complimented me on my knots but the little brat kept trying to get loose and it really sort of pissed me off and insulted me.

What I can't keep your attention on your ass when I'm fucking it and beating it???

I think he is a bit of a Sammy and I really don't like that. No offense to any others who are like this.

When I submit, it's because I WANT to. I don't try to get loose, if I should become loose I tend to act as if I'm not and feel a little worried about it. I am just not into this game. I often put my hands and legs as if I am tied up because I wish it to be so or to be in those positions.

I am doing this tieing for him but I guess he is into this game. Since he is into and enjoys it I suppose I should be okay with it but I'm not.

So this is what I learned for next time, make sure his hands, feet and mouth can't touch any of the others. *grr*

What do y'all think?

Fury

 

[Chicklet]

Okay I think I may have a bad attitude about this. See the other night he wanted to be tied up and a lot of other stuff. So I was happy to do that. He even complimented me on my knots but the little brat kept trying to get loose and it really sort of pissed me off and insulted me.

I figure there are multiple ways to go with the rope play. You can get tied up so tight you can't move, and definitely can't even think about getting away, or you can be tied up loosely... depending on the position, and the people involved, different things are going to work out. I prefer being tied up without the option of being able to escape... things I don't like as much include hands in front of me where I could easily get them away, or cuffs without locks that I know I could undo at any time.

However, when I'm bound loosely, that's when I'm a submissive as opposed to the bottom in a scene, I think. I have the *option* of getting away, and I'd even like to struggle to feel the sensation of being bound so tightly I couldn't escape if I wanted to, but my partner knows I can get away, and is enjoying the fact that I'm there because he wants me to be there.

It does sound to me like you have a bit of a sammy there with you, Fury. And it's a good comprimise, to let him get away if that's what he's fantasizing about. That kind of thing is categorized under ravishment fantasies, in my mind... he's liking the idea of being held against his will, and he's the struggling victim that is trying hard to get away from you. But if it's insulting and upsetting you, he should know when to draw the line. Maybe you guys could talk about it, and do the ravishment escape play sometimes, but go for more of what you're interested in the rest of the time.

I don't think your attitude is bad at all.

 

[Chicklet]

anybody know anything about when you bind your partner in rope and they make a game of getting out in a certain period of time? (with suitable punishment/reward for the 'winner'?) I've never read anything about this particular game.

any good sources, sites for more information and for rope bondage in general?

thanks.

Although there may not be references to this specific "game", it does sound common enough. Possibly you won't find a big reference for it just because even within the game, there are so many things that make it your own, and it's really just a play off of bondage, that maybe people haven't even thought to write anything down about it. Maybe you should start a site with references to rules for the specific game you'd like to play ^^

I have to second the opinion that Midori is a good reference for bondage.

I'm not talking about kids' games and frankly i find that patronizing.

I hate to speak for someone else, but I'm sure that wasn't meant in a patronizing way. A lot of bondage enthusiasts have stories about tying their friends up, or being bound up, by children when they were young. We've shared a lot of them here. In fact, when I read the little story, I remembered similar games I'd play too. I think that most of us on the site, when we see things like your original post, smile in fond memory of early kinks. I hope you smile with us = )

 

[FurryFury]

Thanks Chicklet!

It irritates me that he's more fixed on proving how he can "beat" the restraints than in getting his ass fucked, spanked, or beaten, his picture taken, servicing me or anything else. *nods*

Clearly none of those things would stop him either. So I finally said forget this untied him and used him for a human dildo for a while. He likes that too. *grr* I need to come up with something he doesn't like perhaps. Or I need to just let him do this thing that he likes and I don't. Or I need to just be chill with the fact I may not be so great at topping. *sighs*

We do need to talk about it. I like to pick my times though. Our lives are incredibly busy and complicated.

Fury

 

[raven2]

Thanks Chicklet!

It irritates me that he's more fixed on proving how he can "beat" the restraints than in getting his ass fucked, spanked, or beaten, his picture taken, servicing me or anything else. *nods*

Clearly none of those things would stop him either. So I finally said forget this untied him and used him for a human dildo for a while. He likes that too. *grr* I need to come up with something he doesn't like perhaps. Or I need to just let him do this thing that he likes and I don't. Or I need to just be chill with the fact I may not be so great at topping. *sighs*

We do need to talk about it. I like to pick my times though. Our lives are incredibly busy and complicated.

Fury

Hi Fury,
I think it sounds like a little of the dynamic that goes on between my wife and I. She consistantly says that she wants to help me and improve our love life but in the end there is usually a lot of disappointment, because she is too tired or doesn't remember what I asked her to do. (we tried fixing that by having her write things down, which she likes to do) But I asked her for something tonight and she was all for it originally, but now she has napped for 2-3 hours and really won't be up for it and also had thought up a couple of other objections.

I know I may sound self serving and off track but my point is that I think
it is a power dynamic that goes on between us, she is going to agree to everything, and genuinely feel sorry, but in the end she does not want let me have what I asked. Probably she will wake up later and say she is sorry but she was just so tired.

It really does suck and I know how frustrated it makes you feel.

Quick Edit: A big apology to my wife. She woke up and was ready to go. Unfortunately, it still didn't happen because we had to go looking for my lost cell. But sometimes you get nice surprizes .

 

[Netzach]

Thanks Chicklet!

It irritates me that he's more fixed on proving how he can "beat" the restraints than in getting his ass fucked, spanked, or beaten, his picture taken, servicing me or anything else. *nods*

Clearly none of those things would stop him either. So I finally said forget this untied him and used him for a human dildo for a while. He likes that too. *grr* I need to come up with something he doesn't like perhaps. Or I need to just let him do this thing that he likes and I don't. Or I need to just be chill with the fact I may not be so great at topping. *sighs*

We do need to talk about it. I like to pick my times though. Our lives are incredibly busy and complicated.

Fury

Tie the wrist up to the bicep, (chicken wings, tying the arms like the legs in the "crab" tie)

then tie the bindings together behind his head. so the rope pulls the arms open at 90 degrees out from the sides. If the knots are far enough away from his hands he can thrash around all he wants. I'd tie that mess to the headboard with his hands up like that and go watch tv while he tried to extricate. THEN when he's tired himself out, he should be more agreeable.

 

[FurryFury]

<snip>It really does suck and I know how frustrated it makes you feel.

I'm sorry for you as well. *hug*

My husband though told me he would do that. I just thought, wrongly that he would find the sensations I was giving him more destracting than he clearly did.

He always does what he says he will. I have usually found that comforting. *L*

Fury

Tie the wrist up to the bicep, (chicken wings, tying the arms like the legs in the "crab" tie)

then tie the bindings together behind his head. so the rope pulls the arms open at 90 degrees out from the sides. If the knots are far enough away from his hands he can thrash around all he wants. I'd tie that mess to the headboard with his hands up like that and go watch tv while he tried to extricate. THEN when he's tired himself out, he should be more agreeable.

I LOVE your ideas!

*grins*

Thank you. I was very much hoping you'd show up with your wisdom.

Fury

 

[Netzach]

I'm sorry for you as well. *hug*

My husband though told me he would do that. I just thought, wrongly that he would find the sensations I was giving him more destracting than he clearly did.

He always does what he says he will. I have usually found that comforting. *L*

Fury




I LOVE your ideas!

*grins*

Thank you. I was very much hoping you'd show up with your wisdom.

Fury

Yes yes yes, never leave a bound person unattended, I forgot to say.

Be there, but "ignore" without ignoring.

 

[FurryFury]

Yes yes yes, never leave a bound person unattended, I forgot to say.

Be there, but "ignore" without ignoring.

Gotcha!

Thanks for the help!

*hugs*

Fury

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

Games And Games

I hate to speak for someone else, but I'm sure that wasn't meant in a patronizing way. A lot of bondage enthusiasts have stories about tying their friends up, or being bound up, by children when they were young. We've shared a lot of them here. In fact, when I read the little story, I remembered similar games I'd play too. I think that most of us on the site, when we see things like your original post, smile in fond memory of early kinks. I hope you smile with us = )

No patronization intended

I played a lot of games as a child and I think that I eroticise most all of them. I remember one particular evening. A young lady @ 14 years old ( I was 13) lived couple of houses away, and had a much younger brother who played wth with my younger brother. She was really hot and in the summer wore really skimpy cut-offs. I could use the excuse of checking up on my little brother to see her. On that evening she was playing a game [hell I can never remember the names of the games] -anway she was siting on the front steps and allowing each of them to take one or two steps forward. BUT they had to remember to say "May I." I think that is what it is called. I arrived and watched until she begin insisting I participate. Finally saying, "Join in or leave"--I joined the game, AND I can assure you that the game that she and I were playing had nothing to do with the game the two kids were playing.

Hell, in some ways everything is grist for the mill if you approach it the right way. Some people only like strip poker. Try more complex card games with points -one participant staring without clothes helps--and know exactly how those points are going to be paid for. A serious Dominant can always insure that the sub loses!!

 

[bourbonslut]

Tie the wrist up to the bicep, (chicken wings, tying the arms like the legs in the "crab" tie)

then tie the bindings together behind his head. so the rope pulls the arms open at 90 degrees out from the sides. If the knots are far enough away from his hands he can thrash around all he wants. I'd tie that mess to the headboard with his hands up like that and go watch tv while he tried to extricate. THEN when he's tired himself out, he should be more agreeable.

oh man that's AMAZING! and the chair and TV are right near the bed....

I hate to speak for someone else, but I'm sure that wasn't meant in a patronizing way. A lot of bondage enthusiasts have stories about tying their friends up, or being bound up, by children when they were young. We've shared a lot of them here. In fact, when I read the little story, I remembered similar games I'd play too. I think that most of us on the site, when we see things like your original post, smile in fond memory of early kinks. I hope you smile with us = )

I'd love to...but sometimes, honestly, people take things so SERIOUSLY!