Romance - Hardcore Sex in a Mainstream Film

Dixon Carter Lee

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I rented a French film last night called "Romance" because I'd heard it was well written, and had a fair amount of eroticism. I expected a talky art house flick with occasional flashes of nudity, and got that, but I also wasn't expecting just how frankly the sex would be depicted. For those who prefer their porn "real", this is about as real as you're going to get in a mainstream film, sans a money shot.

I'm watching this flick, and there's talk and talk about how the boyfriend is no longer interested in sex, and about ten minutes into the picture the girl (quite beautiful in a disturbed, dark way) throws up the sheet and moves her hand below the screen, and you know she's trying to arouse her mate.

But then the camera dips down, and his semi-hard cock is exposed, peeking up from the sheets, and this mainstream actress is squeezing it. And then she puts it in her mouth!

Whoa. What the hell did I just rent? I check the DVD box. No, it's not some soft core or hardcore piece of crap – this is an actual fucking movie. It's been reviewed by Roger Ebert (three stars). It's got a plot and real actors.

The sex scenes are not about the sex, but about the people. And the whole thing is from a woman's point of view, written and directed by a woman. It's not about men's fantasies, but women's arousal.

Years ago Stanley Kubrick wondered what it would be like if a real filmmaker tried his hand at porn. Well, this is it.

Well, maybe no. Actually, it's not porn. You don't see cum. You don't see strap-ons. But, you do see erect cocks. You see condoms placed on erect cocks. You see the girl squeezing and sucking (softly) on cocks. You see the girl (softly) fingered. You see a finger inserted in a pussy, coming out wet (which is the point of the moment). You see bondage. You see furious fucking, and though you don't see the insertion of a cock in a pussy you're pretty sure it's happening. This is not your father's art house film.

There's a gynecological scene where a doctor and interns line up to stick their fingers into this young actress' pussy – and they actually do it. There's a fantasy scene with a hell of a lot of copulation involving women who are lying halfway through a wall, all quiet and sweet on one side, the side where their heads are, and a pornographic orgy on the other side, where they're pussies lay exposed to and abused by aroused men. It's weird, but not so much for the sex, but for the way the girl having the fantasy sees herself, as separated from her cunt.

Many of the passages are over-long, and border on silly, as the characters heap clunky analytical prose on each other about "passion", but maybe it was the English translation.

At any rate, if you haven't seen it, it's worth a rental. Blockbuster won't have it (no movies above an R rating for them), so you'll have to go elsewhere. Here's a link to a review: http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/r/romance.html
 
I was talking about this very thing with a friend the other night.

I would love to see Martin Scorcese make a porno! I'll bet he has already, but it just hasn't been viable to release it and sits in his private stock.

Thanks for the numerology post in my Happy Birthday riff thread. I never knew you were so into numerology, but you are right, 30 year old females have a way about them! :)
 
And is it the actual actors (talk about a hackneyed phrase) who do all this, or do you think they're "body doubles?" Just curious. Cause ars gratia artis not withstanding, I'm having trouble imagining Julia Roberts going down on Tom Cruise (to pick two names at random).
 
No, that's the point I'm getting at here -- there are no body doubles. All the actors are legit, except one dude who does Italian porn.

And, riff, I'm not into numerology and I didn't post on that thread -- you're thinking of someone else.
 
Thanks, DCL. You're fastly becoming my best source for rental recommendations.

I've added it to my queue at netflix. God I love that site.
 
It sounds like it's a long way away from going mainstream in Hollywood. You won't even see a full frontal male nude in a major picture--Mel Gibson's butt makes headlines.

What are we to learn from this, Dixon?
 
Can you imagine Steven Spielberg directing a porno?

I think there would be dicks exploding everywhere.
 
I think we can learn that the French really are less frightened of sex than we are. But they still smoke too much.
 
There was an 'arty' sort of Italian film about 15 years ago entitled Devil in the Flesh that featured a mainstream actress giving a blowjob to a guy. Discounting the possibility that Lucas might have developed some pervy SFX, it sure looked like a real blowjob to me, all the way to sucking the guy off.

Now, it's hard to find the original unedited version on videotape. The local Blockbuster had ordered the "wrong" one--i.e., the right one--by mistake. Luckily, I got to rent it before they pulled it.
 
Keep in mind that Roger Ebert (I believe) wrote Valley of the Dolls.

Penny:kiss:
 
A Hitchcock porno would be fabulous.

"The Master of Suspense"

I'm getting hard just thinking about it.
 
I stand corrected, thanks. :)

In either case, it seems to me like a case of those who can't write a movie, become critics of others' films.

Penny:kiss:
 
Well, I'm sure that happens. But Ebert's a good critic. And you don't need to have the talent to make a movie to critique one well. In fact, artsist usually make terrible at critics. A good critic employs theory and history to his examination, something many artists lack.
 
You know, I made a mistake. Now only does this film show cock entering pussy, you do get a money shot. It's a quick closeup of dribbling cum squeezed out a dick onto a woman's belly quickly juxtaposed with that gel they squeeze on a woman's stomach before applying the sonogram device. Nice cut. I must have missed it last night while running to get something to drink. It all takes place during the fantasy sequence.

Strange movie.
 
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