Roman Orgy!!

[CharleyH]

Well, actually, just the plain old North American kind. I am writing a group sex sequence. It's a bit of a personal challenge since I have 7 participants. With such a number, the piece will either come off or be a pure disaster.

Has anyone here ever written an orgy successfully? Any advice?

For those who have read orgies with more than 5 characters, what really irked you the most? What aspects of the orgy did you find a more of a turn-on than, say, a threesome?

 

[CharleyH]

Bumping 'cuz surely someone has an opinion about the advantages or dis of the group sex story

 

[oggbashan]

I have avoided them because of the difficulties of dialogue with several characters. I get them mixed up and confused - probably good for an orgy.

Og

 

[CharleyH]

lol - ah finally. Thanks Og, much better than nothing. I appreciate the effort.

 

[minsue]

For those who have read orgies with more than 5 characters, what really irked you the most?

I usually find I'm concentrating too hard trying to keep everything & everybody straight in my mind and therefore can't lose myself in the story. There is no point to reading a story if I can't lose myself in it.

 

[Guest]

I've written a sex scene in a novel with about nine people involved, but there were only actually four active participants in the sex, the others were just watching.

This was quite a massive novel anyway, with multiple characters and multiple POVs. One thing I did do was make sure each of their names was very distinctive.

When it came to that biggest sex scene, I told it from just one character's POV, and concentrated on the action directly concerning them.

There wasn't much dialogue in that scene, but I did have to use their names a lot, to identify who was doing what to who. I think it worked, others who have read it told me it did, anyway.

That's not a lot of help, I know, but it might give you a bit of a general idea.

Lou

 

[CharleyH]

That's not a lot of help, I know, but it might give you a bit of a general idea.

Lou

Actually, both Min's comment and yours are useful.

Writing a scene where multiple people are talking is one thing, but multiples in a sex scene is quite another. I think because with conversation, you can use little clues and descriptions that vary greatly from one character to the next. With sex there is pussy, tits, cocks and ass, and multiple people have the same damn thing.

Like you, I am doing it from a single point of view. It just now occurs to me after reading your post that I could distinguish the people by word choice. Where I could say tits for one girl, I can use only breasts for the other. Perhaps in setting up the descriptions throughout the story, these types of things can be established.

Hmm. Well you have me thinking, and this is more useful than you know.

Thanks

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I stay away from orgies altogether. They're just not very sexy. If you believe that the real heat in an erotic story is in the interactions between the people having the sex (as I do), then all you're doing is diluting the attention you can spend on any one couple or threesome.

The biggest group I feel comfortable writing about is a threesome. Beyond that, the logistics get too complicated, and you lose your focus. It's like a camera panning around a room. It makes you dizzy and you don;t have time to concentrate on any one person.

Speaking of cameras, the same thing holds true in porn flicks. Groups can be sexy if it's like a bunch of guys with one girl or vice versa, but an orgy scene is just a crowd of people fucking. It's distracting.

I did a scene involving a girl and 4 or 5 guys, but I kept the focus on the girl, and wrote about what she experienced. The closest I came to an outright orgy was a scene with five people but they were paired off as 2 and 3, and I paid attention to the couple first, then let the threesome go at it.

You've really got to maintain focus on a few key characters and talk about what they experience, otherwise it'll come off like a 3-ring circus.

---dr.M.

Oh yeah: the erotic heat in an orgy can come from the voyeuristic aspect: knowing that you're being watched in your most intimate moments, and knowing that people are getting off on seeing you. Otherwise orgies really tend to demean people in my opinion. They turn all your characters into fuck-dummies.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I have written a scene with four participants. That's the upper limit I have been willing to try, since I can keep four characters active in a scene without having to bounce from sex act to sex act, i.e. they can all be participating in one act rather than paired off into smaller ones.

Aside from dialogue, which Og mentiones, I think you will find using personal pronouns becomes iffy quickly. If it's six girls and a guy or vice versa you could use he/she to indicate the one partner, but the others will make it difficult to use them at all. I would suggest a concious effort to set your characters up as different body types, hair colors, etc, to give you some defining characteristic you can cite, otherwise you will find yourself over run with personal names.

I don't read much group sex, when I do, I notice authors tend to get to the pov of one character, or closely tie the narrator to one, and the goings on around him/her become periphery. The lion's share of detail and explanation concentrate on that one participant's experience. If you intend to write it with seven characters and multiple close pov's I envy you the courage to go for it. a group scene with four taxed me.

Don't know how helpful this was, but hopefully some

-Colly

 

[CharleyH]

I stay away from orgies altogether. They're just not very sexy. If you believe that the real heat in an erotic story is in the interactions between the people having the sex (as I do), then all you're doing is diluting the attention you can spend on any one couple or threesome.

The biggest group I feel comfortable writing about is a threesome. Beyond that, the logistics get too complicated, and you lose your focus. It's like a camera panning around a room. It makes you dizzy and you don;t have time to concentrate on any one person.

---dr.M.

I know what you mean about a dizzying effect. While at times it can add to a scene, particularly to give a sense of activity in an action scene, I know that it can also be rather distracting for people. An orgy is something I see visually as a mass of people, but I agree, it is not very sexy, and perhaps because it is so impersonal.

However, I know that in any form of group sex there are a number of different people with different interests, and there are voyeurs, and there are those who want to be in the action, but can't get enough balls up to move in. Pointing my imagination in the direction of film, perhaps I can think of this characters point of view as a camera, moving at her speed and concentrating on aspects that interest her.

I want it to come off as sensual but not a rapid succession of images. . . hm.

Thanks for the view Doc.

 

[CharleyH]

I don't read much group sex, when I do, I notice authors tend to get to the pov of one character, or closely tie the narrator to one, and the goings on around him/her become periphery. The lion's share of detail and explanation concentrate on that one participant's experience. If you intend to write it with seven characters and multiple close pov's I envy you the courage to go for it. a group scene with four taxed me.

Don't know how helpful this was, but hopefully some

-Colly

I had originally thought of 4, but I didn't want to pair them off into couples. The danger in doing this - in my opinion - is that it ceases to be an orgy at all. As Dr. M points, there is also danger in it becoming just a fuck piece, and I understand that. As mentioned, I am taking it on as a personal challenge. I may never write another one again in my life - lol - but at least I can say I tried, good or ill.

I think what I am getting here is the need to balance the rapidity of an orgy with the slow sensuality of a couple.

nods.

You are always helpful Colly.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I had originally thought of 4, but I didn't want to pair them off into couples. The danger in doing this - in my opinion - is that it ceases to be an orgy at all. As Dr. M points, there is also danger in it becoming just a fuck piece, and I understand that. As mentioned, I am taking it on as a personal challenge. I may never write another one again in my life - lol - but at least I can say I tried, good or ill.

I think what I am getting here is the need to balance the rapidity of an orgy with the slow sensuality of a couple.

nods.

You are always helpful Colly.

In mine, they didn't pair off, but the view was closely tied to the main character who was the focus of all the sex, be it one on one two on one or three on one.

 

[LadyJeanne]

However, I know that in any form of group sex there are a number of different people with different interests, and there are voyeurs, and there are those who want to be in the action, but can't get enough balls up to move in. Pointing my imagination in the direction of film, perhaps I can think of this characters point of view as a camera, moving at her speed and concentrating on aspects that interest her.

I want it to come off as sensual but not a rapid succession of images. . . hm.

Thanks for the view Doc.

I like this approach, where the characters are turned on by different aspects of the scene and you can express their varying thoughts and responses to the action.

Group scenes, especially if there's a central character where a majority of the attention is focused, can get repetitive if it's just about the fucking and doesn't cover the emotional/mental aspects of the scene.

 

[CharleyH]

I like this approach, where the characters are turned on by different aspects of the scene and you can express their varying thoughts and responses to the action.

Group scenes, especially if there's a central character where a majority of the attention is focused, can get repetitive if it's just about the fucking and doesn't cover the emotional/mental aspects of the scene.

The thing I like about posing such questions is that is focuses my thought. God forbid I be repetative - lol - hence my short response

Thanks Lady J

 

[Belegon]

I think I would find it very challenging to write such a scene from more than one point of view. I have done three successfully and am at a point in one storyline where it will soon be four at once. But I have an advantage in that I have a co-writer on that one to bounce ideas off and to catch mistakes.

Charley, I would be very interested in reading the results when you get there.

my current thought is to stay with a single POV through the entire scene. But then, my writing is done first-person anyway, so that follows.

maybe I could do one male and one female plus one "watcher", but I think I would get very lost trying to do seven POV's.

 

[CharleyH]

Charley, I would be very interested in reading the results when you get there.

my current thought is to stay with a single POV through the entire scene. But then, my writing is done first-person anyway, so that follows.

maybe I could do one male and one female plus one "watcher", but I think I would get very lost trying to do seven POV's.

I am going to enter it for the Christmas contest thingy. Not seven pov's though - god forbid it would be a novel! lol

I am writing a scene with seven participants, but it is first person, so there will only be one pov. I still find it challenging though, certainly more so than writing a scene between two people. I have just started the "scene" so to speak. I guess I will know better tomorrow how it's turning out by how much hair I didn't pull from my head.

(Thanks for the PCs btw)

 

[Quiet_Cool]

I write here from the 1st person, so far anyway. And I found that it wasn't too difficult to write in that sense. My highest rated story is group sex, and there're... I can't even guess, though I guess it isn't really solidified where they're all, y'know, clumped together.
As from many different viewpoints... Maybe jsut focus on one at a time. Write the scene from each perspective and blend in information when you've finished it. Can't say it's a good idea, but, it's the only one that comes to mind.
Good luck.

Q_C

 

[gauchecritic]

An orgy scene I wrote (the only one I think) was in "Across the Street" There was one guy (1st person) and 3 then 4 women. I remember receiving a mail from someone asking why didn't the other guy from across the street join in!

You may not want to read it because it's incest. But the action and dialogue are split about half and half, without too many tags and seem to manage to stay pretty clear.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Have you considered just embracing the confusion and sensuality of the orgy atmosphere by eliding the sense of who is doing what? One of my favorite elements of CarsonShepherd's "What Chocolate Mousse Can Do" was his decision, at key points in a threesome, to just say that someone was doing something, but not to say whom - to sort of glory in the amazement of having so much stimulus that you don't know where all of it is coming from. I felt that it nicely captured part of the appeal of a group sexual encounter - the sense of utter repletion and sensual excess. It's only a threesome, but I think that the concept would hold up well with a larger group. Maybe you might also go for a bird's-eye shot of the tangled limbs, rutting bodies, etc. - again, driving home that sense of total overload.

The story: http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=164098


Shanglan

 

[pop_54]

I wrote a story where about 5 people get into a kinky sex orgy in a barn, 'Millie's Valentine present'... Umm... but I made it as hard as I possibly could, because it's all dialogue without a word of narrative from word one of the story to the final word... it was more of a writing experiment than a serious attempt at anything, but Lit accepted it so I've left it in place, even though I intended to pull it and edit the thing about some... I really am quite insane you know, or was back then when I wrote it... I don't think I could do it now, even with narrative as well as dialogue.

If you don't bore too easily Charley love you could always take a look at it and see how NOT to do it.

pops.

PS: How's it going by the way, don't see much of you these days