RIP Tom Clancy

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/author-tom-clancy-dead-66-article-1.1473782

I can not tell you how many times I looked at the clock, saw it was 4 AM and swore to myself I was going to read just one more chapter of one of his books.

Damn, just Damn!!!

Mike

 

[DeYaKen]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/author-tom-clancy-dead-66-article-1.1473782

I can not tell you how many times I looked at the clock, saw it was 4 AM and swore to myself I was going to read just one more chapter of one of his books.

Damn, just Damn!!!

Mike

First Iain Banks now Tom Clancy can it get worse?

 

[Handley_Page]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=934673

 

[RjThoughts]

The baseball fan Tom Clancy would appreciate the coincidence:

He wrote Hunt for Red October
Cincinnati Reds lose last night, so now more "Reds in October"

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=934673

You are correct Handley, I had not read your earlier thread when I posted. I do apologize.

Mike

 

[desertslave]

The baseball fan Tom Clancy would appreciate the coincidence:

He wrote Hunt for Red October
Cincinnati Reds lose last night, so now more "Reds in October"

Perhaps despair over another Orioles season ended too soon took him down. I know I'm seriously disappointed.

 

[desertslave]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/author-tom-clancy-dead-66-article-1.1473782

I can not tell you how many times I looked at the clock, saw it was 4 AM and swore to myself I was going to read just one more chapter of one of his books.

Damn, just Damn!!!

Mike

Yanno, Sir, first you got me hooked on Tony Hillerman, then Tom Clancy. Not cool!

 

[TE999]

I enjoyed Tom's earlier books, but his later ones, not so much. He was getting too formula. He really knew his weapons and militaria, though. RIP, Tom.

 

[ChiShyGuy]

One good way to appreciate Clancy is to read others who write in his genre. He was a decent writer in terms of mechanics, grammar, expression. Beyond that, though, he was very good at constructing believable plots that integrated the weapons and technology he loved so much. I didn't read all of his stuff, but I definitely enjoyed the titles I did pick up. They were page turners with characters I really invested in.

 

[mangydawg]

Really sucks to lose him. The Hunt For Red October was my favorite from him. The man knew his stuff when it came to the military and technology.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

His knowledge of military equipment and tactics were impeccable. I read Red October first them Red Storm Rising which I still think is my favorite.

My only quibble with ether of the two is I thought he over stated the navy's ASW capability, but to be fair I had been out of the ASW world for several years so he was more up to date than I was.

Mike

 

[sr71plt]

Still can't absorb that it wasn't his knowledge or research in play, can you guys?

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Still can't absorb that it wasn't his knowledge or research in play, can you guys?

What difference does it make? He put it all together. They were still his stories. The rest is just what helped him get there. I didn't make the car that drove me to work yesterday, or measure the dimensions for the house that we are renovating, but I still did the work that designed those renovations and got the drawings to the needed parties. They are still my drawings.

Stop harping on inconsequentials.

 

[sr71plt]

What difference does it make? He put it all together. They were still his stories. The rest is just what helped him get there. I didn't make the car that drove me to work yesterday, or measure the dimensions for the house that we are renovating, but I still did the work that designed those renovations and got the drawings to the needed parties. They are still my drawings.

Stop harping on inconsequentials.

It doesn't make a difference in what happened. It makes a difference on a writer's site what is being understood as what happened. Tom Clancy was an insurance salesman with an undergraduate English literature degree who didn't serve a day in the military--he was 4F. He didn't know nuts about the military; it was all spoon fed to him. And here folks, on a writing site, are showing they know nothing about publishing and assume that the name on the cover did all of the work (or, in this case, even a quarter of the work).

If they--and you--are happy to continue being dopey about this on a writing site, I'm happy to keep pointing it out. If you are on a writing site because you are or want to be a writer, the point isn't inconsequential.

You can continue to post your "I haven't been laid this century" sorry posts to the AH; I'll continue to post discussion on navigating the writing world on a writing site.

 

[RoyceConnors]

I find it very disturbing to see someone continually putting down a person after they just died. Show some respect, regardless of your personal thoughts on that person. This a thread to pay some tribute to a man who succeeded in becoming a noted author, not about how he got there.

Please refrain from any more personal slights, as that shows the true character of the person making them. Lowlife.

 

[sr71plt]

I find it very disturbing to see someone continually putting down a person after they just died. Show some respect, regardless of your personal thoughts on that person. This a thread to pay some tribute to a man who succeeded in becoming a noted author, not about how he got there.

Please refrain from any more personal slights, as that shows the true character of the person making them. Lowlife.

This isn't about the man, dummy. I said it was too bad he died on another thread. I also paid tribute to what he managed to get done with what he had. It's about your dopeyness--and others--in worshipping him here for what he didn't do. Wake up.

He didn't know a lot about military affairs--and you insult those who do by the false worship--despite the continued slobbering over him about his military knowledge and the wonderful first two books he didn't himself write in the form in which they were published. He was spoon fed all of that military information and his early books were edited and reformed to be far beyond anything he wrote by a publishing industry that made him something he wasn't--just as you are slobbering over achievements and abilities that he didn't have rather than noting what he did do well--which was to catch the attention of readers with his name and to sell his name brand well.

If you stop being a dope about it, I won't have to continue to point out the publishing industry reality of it. You insult all of those who made his name brand what it was.

 

[RoyceConnors]

This isn't about the man, dummy. I said it was too bad he died on another thread. I also paid tribute to what he managed to get done with what he had. It's about your dopeyness--and others--in worshipping him here for what he didn't do. Wake up.

He didn't know a lot about military affairs--and you insult those who do by the false worship--despite the continued slobbering over him about his military knowledge and the wonderful first two books he didn't himself write in the form in which they were published. He was spoon fed all of that military information and his early books were edited and reformed to be far beyond anything he wrote by a publishing industry that made him something he wasn't--just as you are slobbering over achievements and abilities that he didn't have rather than noting what he did do well--which was to catch the attention of readers with his name and to sell his name brand well.

If you stop being a dope about it, I won't have to continue to point out the publishing industry reality of it. You insult all of those who made his name brand what it was.

And you feel justified in what you're saying about him? Aren't you a heartless cunt. All I see from you is jealousy that you'll never fake your way into the real publishing industry. No one gives a shit about you and what you have to say about anything. Your stories are worthless on the open market and yet you posture yourself to be a peer to judge noted authors.
Say what you want, but you might as well join Scouries and mock people who lose loved ones.
Learn to show some respect and stop acting like the geeky little know it all who has to have attention. Go back and sit in the corner until you can behave properly.

 

[sr71plt]

Of course what I've said about Clancy is verifiably true and can be substantiated by anyone making the effort--while what you say about me is just a bunch of angry innuendo.

So, aren't you the noble one?

 

[RoyceConnors]

Of course what I've said about Clancy is verifiably true and can be substantiated by anyone making the effort--while what you say about me is just a bunch of angry innuendo.

So, aren't you the noble one?

You just don't understand and never will. Go put your head back up your ass and inhale more shit to spew.

This isn't about picking the man apart and exposing him. It's paying respects to him and that's all. I suppose you go to funerals and talk ill of the dead with the loved ones do you?

 

[RjThoughts]

Still can't absorb that it wasn't his knowledge or research in play, can you guys?

And? So?

No one's a fool here. We all know that the majority of writers once they've become famous have research assistants or co-writers.

My question to you is: Why such the hurtful words?

 

[sr71plt]

You just don't understand and never will. Go put your head back up your ass and inhale more shit to spew.

This isn't about picking the man apart and exposing him. It's paying respects to him and that's all. I suppose you go to funerals and talk ill of the dead with the loved ones do you?

No, much of this thread has been about lionizing a guy for what he didn't do; not giving him credit for what he did do but focusing lionizing him for what others, not him, did--and thereby misreading him altogether and insulting those who carried him through a franchise in which his greatest contribution of giving it its name.

 

[sr71plt]

And? So?

No one's a fool here. We all know that the majority of writers once they've become famous have research assistants or co-writers.

My question to you is: Why such the hurtful words?

The researchers and writers showed up before he became famous. He was created by the publish industry. Do try to keep up.

My question is why you'all insist on being so stubbornly dumb and, if you want to be writers, why you can't face reality of the industry.

 

[RjThoughts]

The researchers and writers showed up before he became famous. He was created by the publish industry. Do try to keep up.

My question is why you'all insist on being so stubbornly dumb and, if you want to be writers, why you can't face reality of the industry.

Condescending attitudes make you look like a fucking prick. Oh wait, look like one, you ARE one!

I smell a touch of jealousy.

 

[sr71plt]

Condescending attitudes make you look like a fucking prick. Oh wait, look like one, you ARE one!

I smell a touch of jealousy.

Well, sure I'd like to fall into a nice franchise as Clancy did. Who wouldn't? But what I see in you and others is stubborn failure to look at facts and the need to attack the messenger.

This is a writing board. The points I'm making are for serious writers. If you don't like them and aren't a writer, that's your problem.

Clancy fell into the center of a publishing-industry-created franchise and played it for all it was worth. He's to be admired for that. Not for being a major writer in his own right or in being a brilliant military brain--as some on this thread stubbornly want to believe. He died far too young, and that's too bad.

Doesn't mean that you and some others aren't being dumb as rocks about what he actually did, though--as well as insulting to many others involved in that franchise and to people who actually are military experts themselves.

It is you and others here who are insisting on making this about me. Good luck with that.

 

[RoyceConnors]

Well, sure I'd like to fall into a nice franchise as Clancy did. Who wouldn't? But what I see in you and others is stubborn failure to look at facts and the need to attack the messenger.

This is a writing board. The points I'm making are for serious writers. If you don't like them and aren't a writer, that's your problem.

Clancy fell into the center of a publishing-industry-created franchise and played it for all it was worth. He's to be admired for that. Not for being a major writer in his own right or in being a brilliant military brain--as some on this thread stubbornly want to believe. He died far too young, and that's too bad.

Doesn't mean that you and some others aren't being dumb as rocks about what he actually did, though--as well as insulting to many others involved in that franchise and to people who actually are military experts themselves.

It is you and others here who are insisting on making this about me. Good luck with that.

Who asked you to be a fucking messenger??? Go taddle tale somewhere else and just show respect for the departed. What part of that don't you get?
No one cares what you know, or don't know. What people care about is paying respects. Actors die and they might have sucked as one, but no one is dissing them in a thread. Why do you have such a hard-on about Clancy? So his success might have been aided by others, so what? It's still his name that's made the covers and he made the money. Good for him. Lewis is making a fortune off 50 shades of shit, so what? Good for her. People make their own market and he had his.

Now pay respect, or at least learn what it is.