Rime time

twelveoone

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"my own humble suggestions that will remove all rhyme from the work but not diminish it"
as good a time as any to rehash the timeless question, rime or rimeless?
I read in a technical journal something like 30% of the population will only recognize it as poetry if it has end rhyme. That 30% doesn't buy much poetry, maybe a Hallmark card twice a year.
To think you must use it, is dogmatic, out of style since way before you were born.
To think you must avoid it, is dogmatic, out of style even in vers libre circles.

In one case it is a memory device. Rhyming couplets have been going out of style since the advent of the printed page. Songwriters still use them, because it's tough to read a little piece of paper hanging from a mike stand, and you at least want some of your song remembered by your stoned and drunk audience. Or in Bob Dylan's case, drunk and stoned college profs.

In one case it is a tool, a mere repetition. However because it often occupies a key position, the end of the line, it draws more attention to itself. So care must be taken, it is often fatal to what you are trying to do, your work can look cheap and easy.

In this particular case, look again, it is also where I avoid it that is more important.
note however, place/face (internal)/face (internal again) and name/fame

too often discussions of poetry focus on what it is, and not the more serious question of what is it doing.

i am not posting a link, d-bag hasn't hit it yet, and i am not taking issue with the fact that a comment was made, that is why we make comments, and anyone that has been here should remember i am one of the few that admit i am often wrong
 
d bag, twelve oh? ...look again...I said the poem was Beautiful ...and made a suggestion and thought (however mistakenly) that the matter was only between us... well alright 'two' suggestions...was encouraged to comment on all posted...Sorry if I upset you.
 
d bag, twelve oh? ...look again...I said the poem was Beautiful ...and made a suggestion and thought (however mistakenly) that the matter was only between us... well alright 'two' suggestions...was encouraged to comment on all posted...Sorry if I upset you.
d-bag DOES NOT REFER TO YOU, that poem so far appears not to have been hit, you were there already, so there forth I cannot be referring to you
pls read carefully, this is situational awareness, lack of attention can get you killed in certain settings
you did not upset me, sorry if I gave you that impression
the link was not posted for that reason, and because I did not have your permission
but your comment I felt was highly worthy of discussion

again, sorry if you took it this way, this time, but I reread my statement and I thought I had made that clear
so we are out in the open, how do you feel about rhyme? what are its uses?
 
How do I feel about rhyme?
Rhyme is beautiful; it's like the beating heart of your mother as you lay in the womb.
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I would have never started writing poetry except for reading all(?) those offered from nursery rhymes ...past the immeasurable weight of words written before and those offered during my journey here.

rhyme also rime (r m) n. 1. Correspondence of terminal sounds of words or of lines of verse. 2. a. A poem or verse having a regular correspondence of sounds ...((thefreedictionary.com/rhyme))

............In one case it is a memory device ....True to an unknown power if only considering the wealth of harvested work from voice carried treasures of historic and artistic remembrance.
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also rime ... like the rime of ice around a pond in early winter...a scene of harmony, balance? ... harmonics ... leads back to sonics again even in free verse
So, take two rhyming words before bed n call me in the morning... So says silly senior.
 
thank you, it's a fine line, this rime
how do you determine good from bad, when or when not to use it? any further thoughts?
 
thank you, it's a fine line, this rime
how do you determine good from bad, when or when not to use it? any further thoughts?
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Yeah, thought about this more than was healthy after I posted.
Again more questions and little reply
Matching end rhymes is easy says I
but yes, that fine line between balance and cheesy
where a message flows from the page to the heart ...not easy.
at least not for me ...unlike others I see ...here and there, but mostly here
Oh God, for a thousand lifetimes to understand poetry
but this short one has been quite enough for me
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more later Ma'am calls
 
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