Religious Extremism Taking Over: NY Times

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What's Going On?
By Paul Krugman
The New York Times

Tuesday 29 March 2005

Democratic societies have a hard time dealing with extremists in their midst. The desire to show respect for other people's beliefs all too easily turns into denial: nobody wants to talk about the threat posed by those whose beliefs include contempt for democracy itself.

We can see this failing clearly in other countries. In the Netherlands, for example, a culture of tolerance led the nation to ignore the growing influence of Islamic extremists until they turned murderous.

But it's also true of the United States, where dangerous extremists belong to the majority religion and the majority ethnic group, and wield great political influence.

Before he saw the polls, Tom DeLay declared that "one thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America." Now he and his party, shocked by the public's negative reaction to their meddling, want to move on. But we shouldn't let them. The Schiavo case is, indeed, a chance to highlight what's going on in America.

One thing that's going on is a climate of fear for those who try to enforce laws that religious extremists oppose. Randall Terry, a spokesman for Terri Schiavo's parents, hasn't killed anyone, but one of his former close associates in the anti-abortion movement is serving time for murdering a doctor. George Greer, the judge in the Schiavo case, needs armed bodyguards.

Another thing that's going on is the rise of politicians willing to violate the spirit of the law, if not yet the letter, to cater to the religious right.

Everyone knows about the attempt to circumvent the courts through "Terri's law." But there has been little national exposure for a Miami Herald report that Jeb Bush sent state law enforcement agents to seize Terri Schiavo from the hospice - a plan called off when local police said they would enforce the judge's order that she remain there.

And the future seems all too likely to bring more intimidation in the name of God and more political intervention that undermines the rule of law.

The religious right is already having a big impact on education: 31 percent of teachers surveyed by the National Science Teachers Association feel pressured to present creationism-related material in the classroom.

But medical care is the cutting edge of extremism.

Yesterday The Washington Post reported on the growing number of pharmacists who, on religious grounds, refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control or morning-after pills. These pharmacists talk of personal belief; but the effect is to undermine laws that make these drugs available. And let me make a prediction: soon, wherever the religious right is strong, many pharmacists will be pressured into denying women legal drugs.

And it won't stop there. There is a nationwide trend toward "conscience" or "refusal" legislation. Laws in Illinois and Mississippi already allow doctors and other health providers to deny virtually any procedure to any patient. Again, think of how such laws expose doctors to pressure and intimidation.

But the big step by extremists will be an attempt to eliminate the filibuster, so that the courts can be packed with judges less committed to upholding the law than Mr. Greer.

We can't count on restraint from people like Mr. DeLay, who believes that he's on a mission to bring a "biblical worldview" to American politics, and that God brought him a brain-damaged patient to help him with that mission.

What we need - and we aren't seeing - is a firm stand by moderates against religious extremism. Some people ask, with justification, Where are the Democrats? But an even better question is, Where are the doctors fiercely defending their professional integrity? I think the American Medical Association disapproves of politicians who second-guess medical diagnoses based on video images - but the association's statement on the Schiavo case is so timid that it's hard to be sure.

The closest parallel I can think of to current American politics is Israel. There was a time, not that long ago, when moderate Israelis downplayed the rise of religious extremists. But no more: extremists have already killed one prime minister, and everyone realizes that Ariel Sharon is at risk.

America isn't yet a place where liberal politicians, and even conservatives who aren't sufficiently hard-line, fear assassination. But unless moderates take a stand against the growing power of domestic extremists, it can happen here.
 
It is seriously worrying. And I just don't know how you can help stop it, except when some journalists actually show some decency and point things like this out.

Sorry. Bad journo day.

Helen
 
Reminds me of how none of the Democrats rose to support the people whose votes were deliberately denied in the 2000 election in Florida. That's why I laugh when people say that Democrat = liberal. The hell it is. If it were, the Democrats would never have passed a law giving Bosh carte blanche in Iraq. If it were, the Dems would have stood up and made sure that black votes counted in Florida. But I guess they'd rather pretend to care about the poor and disenfranchised than actually help the poor and disenfranchised.

Democrat = rich money grubbing politician, just like Republican =. *

*In high levels, like House and Senate. I don't doubt there might be small city mayors and a few state House/Senate members who might be in it to help people. I just doubt you can get to high levels in U.S. politics without being a conscienceless money-grubbing bastard.
 
In my little magnum opus, Death by Fucking , my lead character states the following aphorism:
All politicians are whores

This is especially true in today's marketplace, where the Dems have abandoned ship and have stopped fighting against the extreme right's stranglehold on the nation.

The US is being run by boobs and know-nothings, who regardless of their lack of intellectual vigor feel that their opinions are the only valid opinions.

Our country has become an international embarassment.
 
Just-Legal said:
It is seriously worrying. And I just don't know how you can help stop it, except when some journalists actually show some decency and point things like this out.

Sorry. Bad journo day.

Helen

It's difficult to stop, because religious extremeism isn't really the issue. The extreme voices are, as usual, a minority. But they are a vocal minority and as they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Religious people of all political stripes have tired of seeing religion stripped from the public life of Americans. And they are voicing there displeasure by voting for the party that supports their belief that the establishment clause is not a hammer to destroy religion, but an injunction to avoid a state religion.

You have a situation where the government must protect the rights of the individual, but government still answers to the will of the majority. When you are fighting a battle against institutionalized prayer in school, even many strongly christian folks can see that's a conflict. But when your big fights are removing under god from the pledge, removing christmas from the common vocabulary, taking in god we trust off currency, fighting against a manger scene on public property...You really and truly have crossed the Rubicon.

You are no longer looking to remove religion from government, you are looking to remove it from the public square. At that point, religious people of all stripes are likely to rebel and sadly, the doom predictors on the fringe become the voice of them all, because they already have the networks, contacts and organization to do something about it.

They are far weaker than they appear, but they scare politicians because they can organize mass protests and deny huge blocks of votes. their core wants nothingless than theorcratic christian rule. The maority of their support isn't from such radical philosophers, but from more moderate people who have a religion and are tired of the liberals attacking that religion.

The GOP got slapped when they rushed through teri's law. The 13% of their active core were ecstatic, 80 percent or so of americans, inclusing large majoritys of both conservatives, Chistians and even angelicals were appalled.

Much of politics is perception. Most religious people view the democrats as anti-religion. The chrisitan right is to be feared, no less so than you would fear a radical islamicist movement, but they are hardly the united juggernaught they are percieved to be. At the same time, you ignore them at your peril.
 
thebullet said:
All politicians are whores
I cannot stand how smug Ruth Kelly sounds on news talking about school dinners. Can you?

Shop girls were aghost on seeing that I'd my hair cut. An interesting way to find women's secret desires. LOL
 
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