Regarding Mommy's Boy stories

[Djmac1031]

So I have this idea for a story about an older gentleman, in his 50's who regularly hires a sex worker as a surrogate "Mommy."

She would be older as well, probably in her 40s.

I understand the obvious age rules, and both characters are adults.

I also understand the age PLAY rules and that she can't, for instance, refer to him as being under age even in role play.

My question is just how carefully I'd have to word things. If she called him her "Good Boy" or "sweet little boy" during sex, would that get it flagged?

Again, I don't even want them PRETENDING he's underage. But does the use of the word "boy" automatically raise a red flag?

There is a certain type of nurturing behavior people with this fetish look for; the comforting mother there to take care of her sweet son.

I suppose I can play it safe and use stuff like "my sweet young man" or something.

I suppose I can go look up some stories of this type, get an idea of what has been approved in the past.

Just curious if others have run into issues with this or advise on the best way to approach it.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think I'd stay away from little boy. But good and sweet should be okay.
The trick to this one would be to start off in the MC's head with what he wants. Make sure his reason for this play is he had a thing for his mother, which of course never happened so he pays for the fantasy. But keep his desires as that of a man. He wanted to show his mother he could love her/fuck her like no other, be the man of the house.

If you take it in the fetish direction of her babying him like he's a child, its getting booted.

Stress this is an adult fantasy and he wanted her as an adult.

 

[KeithD]

The word "boy" does seem to raise quick-scan attention here even though the term is used in certain contexts for anyone younger than the speaker. This is a case, when I really want to use the word, that I'll put a note in the note box that the term is used but in a relative-age sense not in a child sense. That's worked so far.

 

[Djmac1031]

I think I'd stay away from little boy. But good and sweet should be okay.
The trick to this one would be to start off in the MC's head with what he wants. Make sure his reason for this play is he had a thing for his mother, which of course never happened so he pays for the fantasy. But keep his desires as that of a man. He wanted to show his mother he could love her/fuck her like no other, be the man of the house.

If you take it in the fetish direction of her babying him like he's a child, its getting booted.

Stress this is an adult fantasy and he wanted her as an adult.

I'm actually thinking more along the lines that he never had a good, nurturing mother figure in his life.

Now, as an adult man, in a position of power and influence in life, always in charge, always making the decisions, he's looking for someone to give over control too, someone to nurtured and care for him. Or at least pretend to.

The whole thing is really just a germ of an idea at the moment.

And as you said, I'll just have to make it very clear it's not about him pretending to be a child. He's just a lonely adult that wants to be coddled.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm actually thinking more along the lines that he never had a good, nurturing mother figure in his life.

Now, as an adult man, in a position of power and influence in life, always in charge, always making the decisions, he's looking for someone to give over control too, someone to nurtured and care for him. Or at least pretend to.

The whole thing is really just a germ of an idea at the moment.

And as you said, I'll just have to make it very clear it's not about him pretending to be a child. He's just a lonely adult that wants to be coddled.

The part I put in bold has me thinking this has some potential in the femdom genre. Daddy Dom is more popular, but the reverse is out there as well. It can be a soft dominance, but it is an aspect to play up and when you call a dom/domme daddy or mommy its seen in a different context in BDSM, people know its not about being a child, its about control.

Just yet another though to keep confusing you I guess

 

[Djmac1031]

The part I put in bold has me thinking this has some potential in the femdom genre. Daddy Dom is more popular, but the reverse is out there as well. It can be a soft dominance, but it is an aspect to play up and when you call a dom/domme daddy or mommy its seen in a different context in BDSM, people know its not about being a child, its about control.

Just yet another though to keep confusing you I guess

I've considered that as well.

And I've honestly never written anything like that before. I suppose more research is in order.

I suppose I can avoid a lot of problems just skipping the word "boy" altogether and just use stuff like "My sweet son" etc.

If I write this, it's not going to be a full on Dom thing in the typical sense most think of it as, anyway.

She's not gonna chain him up and shit lol.

I'm not even sure where this idea came from, it's not my usual genre at all.

 

[nice90sguy]

'Adult Baby/Diaper Play' is a Thing. Lots of guys have infantalization fantasies.

If you're thinking along those lines, DJMac, I don't see that would be a problem, if it was pretty clear that it's role-play.

The phrase "Good Boy" appears in about 90% of my stories. I'm pretty sure you can extend the Mommy/Baby dialog a lot further than that before it got flagged.

 

[Djmac1031]

'Adult Baby/Diaper Play' is a Thing. Lots of guys have infantalization fantasies.

If you're thinking along those lines, DJMac, I don't see that would be a problem, if it was pretty clear that it's role-play.

The phrase "Good Boy" appears in about 90% of my stories. I'm pretty sure you can extend the Mommy/Baby dialog a lot further than that before it got flagged.

Yeah, no diapers or baby talk. Not my thing. (No judgement.)

It's going to be more about him finding someone to nurture him and take control, in a loving, positive way, even if it's only make believe and he's paying for it.

I haven't even written one word yet lol. So I honestly am not entirely sure how far it goes into that kind of thing.

My main concern at this point was worrying about using the wrong wording that might come off as age play despite that not being my intention.

I guess I do have to realize that in reality there is usually some age regression involved where he'd want to pretend to be younger, or treated like a child.

The lines blur of course if you mix in sex.

As Lovecraft stressed, I'll just have to make sure any sexual situations clearly state he's still in adult mode, and that his wants and desires are that of an adult.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Write it clearly so that the focus is on the adult role play (none of the wink wink nudge nudge stuff that you see some writers use), and make sure you include a Note to the Editor, drawing attention to the content.

 

[Djmac1031]

Write it clearly so that the focus is on the adult role play (none of the wink wink nudge nudge stuff that you see some writers use), and make sure you include a Note to the Editor, drawing attention to the content.

Yeah, I definitely want to avoid skating on that thin ice of "it's NOT ageplay, except here's how I'll dance around it."

I'm definitely not interested in that. Still, the wording and phrasing of something like this can lead to that conclusion, even despite my good intentions not to, if I'm not careful and clear.

 

[djrip]

I think it will post with no problems at all. He's 50 and she's 40. Role play is not going to get you rejected, if other stories are anything to go by. There are much more extreme age play stories here than what it sounds like you're proposing. I don't even think it would come close to being rejected. Could be wrong of course.

 

[KeithD]

I think it will post with no problems at all. He's 50 and she's 40. Role play is not going to get you rejected, if other stories are anything to go by. There are much more extreme age play stories here than what it sounds like you're proposing. I don't even think it would come close to being rejected. Could be wrong of course.

I'd agree, but the site's initial screening process is really sensitive and prone to overkill. I couldn't be surprised to find the simple use of a word like "boy" triggering an initial send back. This very issue came up for me yesterday in reviewing my submission for Sunday. I came across a character calling another one "boy" as a "putting you in your place" statement, and my first thought was that, with the Literotica submission process being what it is, the story might be sent back even though there are characters who would call a forty-year-old man "boy" by habit. Then I thought, no dammit, that's the word I want to use. So, I'll note it in the notes box when I submit.

 

[RejectReality]

I think it will post with no problems at all. He's 50 and she's 40. Role play is not going to get you rejected, if other stories are anything to go by. There are much more extreme age play stories here than what it sounds like you're proposing. I don't even think it would come close to being rejected. Could be wrong of course.

There are a lot of more extreme ones that were posted in the past. Not so much the last... Suppose it's damn near a decade now.

Laurel's line for those has veered sharply toward the cautious. It used to be that the unwritten rule was that the scene couldn't be pulled out of the story and read as underage absent the rest of the story's context. IOW, it had to be clear during the scene that they were both adults.

Then those started getting rejected as well.

Any age play is risking a rejection, but the old 'rule' should be the starting point if you're to have any hope of getting it past. Worst that can happen is it gets kicked back I suppose.

 

[KeithD]

I think the reality is that there is some sort of initial scan being done on stories by a program and that stories are getting kicked back before Laurel or any other human sees them--and are being kicked back on the basis of words or phrases the scanner looks for and reacts to without reasoning context. So, getting past the initial phase is really a matter of satisfying a scanning program, not Laurel or submission rules.

 

[RejectReality]

Laurel has said more than once that there's no automated program filtering anything before she sees it. One such instance was appended to the underage sticky at the top of the forum recently.

As far as things slipping through: one thing to realize is that the stories are not approved by a robot or script. They are approved by human eyes, which tire easily as I age. Every story must be formatted; tags, title, and description checked; and skimmed for content issues. The daily update takes hours. If I could find a way to do all this properly with a script, I would. But in the last 12+ years, the only way to do things right is to do it by hand, so to speak.

Mistakes happen. The site has been on a huge growth streak in the past year, with readership & unique visitors up nearly 20%. This means a corresponding growth in submissions. We want to post stories to the site as quickly as possible for you authors. We also want to make sure that the updates are as top-quality as they can be - with a minimum of formatting errors and no forbidden content inadvertently posted. Thorough checking of stories and timely posting is a balance we will continue to work to get right.

I'd like to be able to read every story through, but I can't. Reading 100+ stories/novels a night - much less formatting, tagging, etc. - is just not possible. So, if while skimming I see something that sends up a red flag and further reading doesn't clarify things, I often send it back to the author. If I stopped and read through each novel we receive to check on whether an underage character is sexually active at any point, I would be even further behind than I already am.

People keep speculating that it's happening, but there's zero evidence of it. All the things people attribute to it could just as easily be explained by rapid skimming of over 100 submissions a day.

 

[jsmiam]

So I have this idea for a story about an older gentleman, in his 50's who regularly hires a sex worker as a surrogate "Mommy."…

Tangent. Not the sex worker part, but there’s the whole “little” thing in the bdsm world, so this may more be bdsm than fetish. (Btw everything I learned about this I learned from google, so I have no more than about 30 seconds more expertise in this matter than someone who hasn’t run across the term. I think it’s more often women playing the little (if I had only googled another for ten seconds I’d know more).

Regarding the actual question, no clue. Good luck!

 

[KeithD]

Laurel has said more than once that there's no automated program filtering anything before she sees it. One such instance was appended to the underage sticky at the top of the forum recently.



People keep speculating that it's happening, but there's zero evidence of it. All the things people attribute to it could just as easily be explained by rapid skimming of over 100 submissions a day.

She said that a long time ago. I think a prescan process was added after what you cite. There quite obviously is a prescan/send back mechanism before she's taking a good look at anything. This is a weakness of the submissions system here--making judgments on what is in a story without taking a good look at the story first.

In any case, we shouldn't be hearing any of this from you. She needs to communicate more/better. We keep speculating because she isn't communicative and you aren't this Web site's voice of authority.

 

[mantonrichards]

I've used "boy" many times in my recent series with zero issues. The characters are young men, and it is normal (at least in English speaking culture) to refer to males as boys up to about 20-21 years old, just as we refer to young woman as girls (often well into their twenties). I also include a disclaimer at the start of each story, which makes clear that all characters are over 18, even though this isn't a requirement.

 

[RejectReality]

She said that a long time ago. I think a prescan process was added after what you cite. There quite obviously is a prescan/send back mechanism before she's taking a good look at anything. This is a weakness of the submissions system here--making judgments on what is in a story without taking a good look at the story first.

In any case, we shouldn't be hearing any of this from you. She needs to communicate more/better. We keep speculating because she isn't communicative and you aren't this Web site's voice of authority.

No, it isn't "obvious" that there's some prescan mechanism.

Automated filtering of this nature would be rejecting many more stories, and when it was first installed, it would have been even worse. String filtering is notoriously difficult to fine tune, and that's when you're not dealing with the need to allow dirty words.

You're knowledgeable in a lot of areas, but coding ain't one of them. An automated process would be hell to code, a nightmare upon deployment, and a pain in the ass into perpetuity. More trouble than it's worth is putting it mildly.