Re-printing the apology I sent to miles

[DannyBoyUK]

DannyBoyUK wrote on 08-05-2002 03:15 PM:


Dear miles

I owe you a two-fold apology



1)The misuse of troll accounts (and this is an apology to the whole board,really). For what it is worth I have never had any connection with yayati - unless it was a second-hand link. By this I mean that the one or two people in the list of trolls who MAY be legit are denny and marlene (I dont know if the same person created those accounts on the same day or whether they are really husband and wife as has been claimed). As you know ALL the other trolls followed on from them and I admit to using them to bump up certain threads (which is arguably harmless) but also (entirely unforgiveably) to attack you behind a shield rather than discussing the issues openly.

2)Whilst I think the thread titles that led to the attack on you may have been inappropriate, all the people who know you have assured me that you are not a racist and therefore I unreservedly withdraw that accusation.

Yours sincerely

Daniel

 

[michaelmt1]

Bump

 

[DannyBoyUK]

bump (in case miles hasn't seen it)

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[KillerMuffin]

Trust is a precious commodity online and you've shot your wad, baby.

Move on.

 

[Problem Child]

Trust is a precious commodity online and you've shot your wad, baby.

Move on.

I'll second that. There is no such thing as redemption for you here.

The best you can possibly hope for is to make up a new fake name and try to use it responsibly, and hope no one finds out you used to be DBUK.

But, since you've probably done that a dozen times over already, nevermind.

 

[tortoise]

PC,

Your new av makes me want to pick vermin from your pelt and dine upon them.

It's not gay. It's symbiosis.

 

[Sandia]

Starting a new screen name is better than apologizing and trying to move on?

 

[Problem Child]

Starting a new screen name is better than apologizing and trying to move on?

Where did I say it was better?

If you choose to trust this guy, be my guest. I was just pointing out reality.

tortoise, I'll try and save the juiciest bugs for you...

 

[KillerMuffin]

Starting a new screen name is better than apologizing and trying to move on?

He's persona non grata around here. He can't be trusted. This is a severe problem.

He created identities. He trolled with those identities. He created a relationship with someone under false pretenses. He lied to cover up what he'd done. He attacked people under false identities. He lied about owning those false identities. He wasted expensive bandwidth with troll-bots to falsely inflate post totals for false identities. He lied about doing that.

He lied, proved that he's willing to lie to CYA, and he's probably still doing it. There's no trust there, not even the minimal benefit of the doubt trust most of us extend to everyone here. The trust that you are who you say you are. We know that he isn't.

He can do one of four things.

1. Apologize and go forth and sin no more. Eventually someone may trust him, interact with him, or forget what he did. This will take a lot of perseverence in the face of condemnation or silence on his part.

2. Apologize and keep it up anyway. He'll be found out and we'll play this whole game again.

3. Leave Literotica, find a new place to post, and sin no more.

4. Find a new place to post and play the whole game again until he's found out.

My guess is that he's doing Number 2 right now. There's no trust there. He'll have to prove himself. He has demonstrated that he will lie to my face when I know better.

 

[koalabear]

http://www.btinternet.com/~tonyrichardson/horse.gif

 

[tortoise]

tortoise, I'll try and save the juiciest bugs for you...

Too kind. And in return, my careful grooming will ensure that you are no longer a damned dirty ape. See? Symbiosis.

If I had a pet mandrill, I would name it Barbara. Regardless of gender.

 

[Hamletmaschine]

. . . If I had a pet mandrill, I would name it Barbara. Regardless of gender.

After Streisand, I hope.

 

[tortoise]

After Leonard Maltin, actually.

 

[miles]

I read it, I accept it. Now, let's puhleeeeeeeeeeze fageddaboutit.

 

[SINthysist]

Looks like somebody died and appointed a lot of people hall monitors here...

DBUK tell them to shut the fuck up.

Fucking Trolls.

 

[red_rose]

Using the trolls was a big fuck up move on his part, but he hasn't lied to me about who he was - this much I believe.

If you haven't read through this thread, I suggest you do so. (Only if you give a shit, obviously.)

http://literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=93357

Did he start that thread to get my attention? I have no idea - it is very possible, though. In fact, I wouldn't doubt it in the least.

He and/or "uncledenny" started many other tiresome and annoying threads trying to "matchmake" other people after that. I think that all he/they were trying to do was get people who don't normally converse to get to know one another. Granted, it was annoying - no argument there.

I think him asking the people of Lit to forgive him is a far better idea than him creating a new login name. If he did the latter, people would eventually realize it was him, and then just fucking stone him all over again for being a troll.



I've talked to him since this whole mess occurred - even seen him on webcam. He's a very real, relatively normal person.

And, okay... he's not too keen on miles' sense of humor. (Maybe you have to be sarcastic to the bone to realize that miles is hardly ever serious - except perhaps in his fucking threads...)

Bah. I'm late for work.

That's pretty much all I have to say on the matter. Agree or disagree... but like miles said, "fageddaboutit."

 

[Debbie]

Looks like somebody died and appointed a lot of people hall monitors here...

DBUK tell them to shut the fuck up.

Fucking Trolls.

SINthysist, you A_jacks BITE ME.
Miles said "I read it, I accept it. Now, let's puhleeeeeeeeeeze fageddaboutit"
MIles is the man. Let it go.

 

[SINthysist]

I read all the threads and the controversy Texan started. I would ignore anyone I did not wish to interact with which some people here just cannot do. DBUK needs to know that no matter what he does, a subset of this board will spend an eternity trolling him, stopping by from time-to-time to drop a lot of horse-crap.

They consider this their board and themselves the board police. Collectively, they are the longest running Troll society here on the board. Smart, clever, talented people who never forget and never forgive. The tolerant ones. Got to jump in and let every newbie know who, in thier view, is worthy.

I still fail to see the vested interest...

DBUK knows how each and every one of you feels by now. At some point however, it becomes censorship by shouting.

 

[SINthysist]

LOL

I needed that!

 

[Debbie]

I read all the threads and the controversy Texan started. I would ignore anyone I did not wish to interact with which some people here just cannot do. DBUK needs to know that no matter what he does, a subset of this board will spend an eternity trolling him, stopping by from time-to-time to drop a lot of horse-crap.

They consider this their board and themselves the board police. Collectively, they are the longest running Troll society here on the board. Smart, clever, talented people who never forget and never forgive. The tolerant ones. Got to jump in and let every newbie know who, in thier view, is worthy.

I still fail to see the vested interest...

DBUK knows how each and every one of you feels by now. At some point however, it becomes censorship by shouting.

My vested interest is... no matter what DBUK's intentions were? He is untrustworthy. In my book? Nada, nothing. I have my own internal ignore switch.

 

[Cheyenne]

DBUK knows how each and every one of you feels by now. At some point however, it becomes censorship by shouting.

And what's your point? Sounds fair to me. He talks, we ignore. He gets the same fate as KR, as he so richly deserves.

 

[Sandia]

Using the trolls was a big fuck up move on his part, but he hasn't lied to me about who he was - this much I believe.

If you haven't read through this thread, I suggest you do so. (Only if you give a shit, obviously.)

http://literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=93357

Did he start that thread to get my attention? I have no idea - it is very possible, though. In fact, I wouldn't doubt it in the least.

He and/or "uncledenny" started many other tiresome and annoying threads trying to "matchmake" other people after that. I think that all he/they were trying to do was get people who don't normally converse to get to know one another. Granted, it was annoying - no argument there.

I think him asking the people of Lit to forgive him is a far better idea than him creating a new login name. If he did the latter, people would eventually realize it was him, and then just fucking stone him all over again for being a troll.



I've talked to him since this whole mess occurred - even seen him on webcam. He's a very real, relatively normal person.

And, okay... he's not too keen on miles' sense of humor. (Maybe you have to be sarcastic to the bone to realize that miles is hardly ever serious - except perhaps in his fucking threads...)

Bah. I'm late for work.

That's pretty much all I have to say on the matter. Agree or disagree... but like miles said, "fageddaboutit."

This is why I love you hon.

One of the reasons...