Rapist-minded Republicans voted against The Right To Contraception Act

[Philthy_Phil]

Why the fuck aren't you guys raising money for them? We have a lot of crowd source options.

Why are you so niggardly in your concern that you feel the government MUST fund it
(with my tax dollars despite how I feel about the issue)?

Do you even know what planned parenthood do and the services they provide or are you a moron who thinks all they do is perform abortions?

My guess is the latter.

 

[ll74]

Do you even know what planned parenthood do and the services they provide or are you a moron who thinks all they do is perform abortions?

My guess is the latter.

They don't care. Nor do they care that if PP stops receiving funding, the result will be an significant additional load to the welfare system.

 

[Rightguide]

The House passed the Right to Contraception Act on Thursday ― a bill that codifies the right to birth control and other contraceptives amid fears that the Supreme Court may come for that aspect of reproductive health care next after the high court repealed Roe v. Wade’s protection of abortion rights last month.

The bill passed despite 195 Republicans who voted against the bill in a final vote of 228 to 195.

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/195-house-republicans-voted-against-154820845.html




Final vote of 228 to 195!!!!!!!!!!
That was chillingly close

So what else was in the bill that was so objectionable, more gun control, higher taxes, more Green New Deal destruction of the nation? Did you read it?

 

[Comshaw]

I just followed the links to the actual text of the bill and I'm still trying to unweave the language. The 'red flag' for me is that it's reported in the 'finance' section of Yahoo. I'm still trying to sus out the financial impact the legislation would have.

He said he was looking into it.

Read for comprehension and don't let your passion overwhelm your patience.

You need lessons in reading comprehension.

Yahoo could have published that article in any one of it's sections. Social, General news, Politics, whatever. But it was published in the Finance section, why? That leads me to believe there is a financial component to the bill and I'm trying to dig out what that component is.

I think ya'll need to take heed of your own advice. Read the text of the bill. It takes only a few minutes. It's not that complicated, at least not for a logical, thinking adult.

Also trying to imply there are all kinda' nefarious things hidden in it shows an astounding amount of obtuseness, or worse a deceitful attempt at misdirection. It's also an informal logic Genetic fallacy.

Comshaw

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Do you even know what planned parenthood do and the services they provide or are you a moron who thinks all they do is perform abortions?

My guess is the latter.

Abortion is definitely where most of the revenue comes from. They’re the market share leader.

 

[ll74]

Abortion is definitely where most of the revenue comes from. They’re the market share leader.

And where none of the government funding goes to.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Abortion is definitely where most of the revenue comes from. They’re the market share leader.

Definitely? Are you sure about that or is it just your fee fees talking?

PPFA is the largest single provider of reproductive health services, including abortion, in the U.S. In their 2014 Annual Report, PPFA reported seeing over 2.5 million patients in over 4 million clinical visits and performing a total of nearly 9.5 million discrete services including 324,000 abortions

Were the other 9 million + of services provided done for free?

 

[adrina]

no, I wouldn't subsidize multiple abortions.
We all make mistakes, but they should goddamn get an interest-free loan and pay for it instead of asking me to do it. They are young, they can work.

I'd rather pay for the care of the elderly or seriously ill.

So then it's about moral judgment and not money? Do you have moral judgments in other areas (ie war etc) or is it just because it's abortion?

In all reality it is more expensive to pay for the lack of abortion than to pay for abortion.

Is your judgment in alignment with your pocketbook or morality?

Moral judgmentalism is very expensive.

I'm curious do you deny type 2 diabetics their medicine because their gluttonous actions cause their own predicament?

 

[adrina]

Why should the government pay for abortions at all in the USA?

The government doesn’t pay for delivering a baby.

Why should the government pay for ED meds?

 

[mayfly13]

Why should the government pay for abortions at all in the USA?

The government doesn’t pay for delivering a baby.

it doesn't?
I'm pro-choice, but this is insane.

You got advocates like adrina and aglao likening abortions with tooth extractions and asking for no-cost abortions even starting at your 3rd one

yet child delivery isn't subsidised???????
Nevermind terminal illness treatments that are now bankrupting families.
Or people now rationining their insulin due to price hikes

 

[adrina]

why are you avoiding the question?

The cost of having a baby isn't cheap — in the United States, at least. The average cost to have a baby in the US, without complications during delivery, is $10,808— which can increase to $30,000 when factoring in care provided before and after pregnancy.Dec 9, 2019
https://www.businessinsider.com › h...

How Much Does It Cost to Have a Baby in the US? - Business Insider​

I'm not. The government should pay for abortions as a matter of social investment. Especially considering what it costs society to not have abortions.

Again, why should the gov't pay for ED meds?

 

[adrina]

it doesn't?
I'm pro-choice, but this is insane.

You got advocates like adrina and aglao likening abortions with tooth extractions and asking for no-cost abortions even starting at your 3rd one

yet child delivery isn't subsidised???????
Nevermind terminal illness treatments that are now bankrupting families.
Or people now rationining their insulin due to price hikes

You can cast aspersions or answer my inquiries. It's easier to be passive aggressive. Less so to be precise with policy.

Do you believe type 2 diabetics, who are essentially responsible for their own condition, should be given government assistance with their treatment?

 

[adrina]

Killing babies is an investment?

Having babies is a cost to society?

You have it all backwards, girlie.

I see you are not familiar with reality and only want to be ridiculous. Okey dokey, you're an idiot with the depth of a teaspoon's understanding of public policy.

Thanks for identifying yourself as someone who can't answer to debate points but instead goes for the usual trite BS.

 

[ll74]

Killing babies is an investment?

Having babies is a cost to society?

You have it all backwards, girlie.

Abortion doesn't involve babies.

 

[adrina]

Stop changing the topic when challenged.

Talk about contraception/babies/abortions, you stupid cow.

Name calling. Well that's effective debate tactics.

Do you actually have anything but invectives?

 

[ll74]

Then what is an IUD?

 

[adrina]

Abortion isnt contraception.

Start there.

( stupid cunt)

So then the government should pay for ED but not for abortion or contraception.

You're not making any sense.

(Fucking idiot)

 

[mayfly13]

Do you believe type 2 diabetics, who are essentially responsible for their own condition, should be given government assistance with their treatment?

poorly thought analogy

Even worse than the "the foetus is like a parasite" or "abortions are like dental opeations" ones

 

[ll74]

The Topic is contraception.

Contraception: the deliberate use of artificial methods or other techniques to prevent pregnancy as a consequence of sexual intercourse. The major forms of artificial contraception are barrier methods, of which the most common is the condom; the contraceptive pill, which contains synthetic sex hormones that prevent ovulation in the female; intrauterine devices, such as the coil, which prevent the fertilized ovum from implanting in the uterus; and male or female sterilization.

Once sperm meets egg and attaches to uterus, contraception is irrelevant.

So, abortion isn’t contraception… different topic.

I think contraception should be available to all at a reasonable cost. Not free.

That includes the morning after pill, as it takes a few days for sperm to meet egg.

An IUD can be for after conception

 

[adrina]

poorly thought analogy

Even worse than the "the foetus is like a parasite" or "abortions are like dental opeations" ones

Why exactly? They have brought on their own condition through their own actions. Their condition threatens their health as well as the security of their family. The only difference is that the diabetic doesn't have a fetus to contend with. However you have already stated that you don't have a problem with subsidizing payment for an abortion, but it is only multiple abortions you have an issue with. So it's not the fetus that is an issue, but instead a judgment on their repeated alleged irresponsible actions for bringing about the situation.

Justify how you believe multiple abortions are different than type 2 diabetes.

 

[mayfly13]

I'm not continuing this debate with you, adrina.
Your analogies are jaw-droppingly stupid, sorry.

 

[adrina]

I'm not continuing this debate with you, adrina.
Your analogies are jaw-droppingly stupid, sorry.

I find it interesting that those who have judgments such as yourself cannot withstand scrutiny.

I guess I'll go back to not engaging with you. Whatever. Your loss.

 

[iso36]

The Topic is contraception.

Contraception: the deliberate use of artificial methods or other techniques to prevent pregnancy as a consequence of sexual intercourse. The major forms of artificial contraception are barrier methods, of which the most common is the condom; the contraceptive pill, which contains synthetic sex hormones that prevent ovulation in the female; intrauterine devices, such as the coil, which prevent the fertilized ovum from implanting in the uterus; and male or female sterilization.

Once sperm meets egg and attaches to uterus, contraception is irrelevant.

So, abortion isn’t contraception… different topic.

I think contraception should be available to all at a reasonable cost. Not free.

That includes the morning after pill, as it takes a few days for sperm to meet egg.

 

[iso36]

We resolved all this nonsense in Canada in 1970, btw.

“There's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And where none of the government funding goes to.

Nonsense. Money is fungible.