rape

[Guest]

How about this idea - young and very beautiful couple have a big problem with the money. They are hired from anonymous man to make a porn-flick. But when the young people go to his studio, there are four other males, who raped the pretty girl, while his lover watches.

 

[Guest]

What'da think? This idea sounded interesting to me. For those who like "slippery consent" there wouldn't even have to be a rape going on.

Okay, so there is a young (perhaps newly married) couple down on their luck and they are in desperate need of money. They read a "personal ad" online or in a "swinger's magazine" and after a lot of talking decided to allow someone to video tape them for money. (Amateur porn.)

So, they get to the location. (What/wherever it is.) Things seem fine at first, but several "extra" guys enter the room. The hubby/boyfriend freaks out. Perhaps he even goes limp from the shock and is jumping up to get his pants back on. The woman is scared yet excited at the same time. She's always been the "good girl with the heart of a slut" and she consents to letting the other men have their way with her.

What do ya think?

 

[Chicklet]

I like your angle, tiggs.

has anyone ever seen "orgasmo"?? it's funny funny stuff. What if the couple isn't married but trying to earn money to *get* married instead? sorta cool, huh?

Okay so the boy freaks out and is unable to perform, he's too uncomfortable with people watching him. They still need the money and the director offers to make it easier on the couple by having the guys do all the work. Our unfortunate friend protests, but maybe his wife talks him in to it. She lays down on the bed and they all start doing things, not real, just for the camera. It's getting her excited, though, and she wants it to go further.

 

[Guest]

I like your angle, tiggs.

I'm glad you like. Your addition to this take is really cool.

 

[Diane Marie]

Sound interesting BlessedBe, but what's your ending.

Divorce or does her husband find out he likes watching? Realistically it wouldn’t be easy for the husband to forgive his wife.

 

[peterpan]

Until he sees her paycheck..

For all those slippery people, what about a tale where a woman hires a bunch of guys to pretend to rape her in front of her unknowing husband.

I still haven't figured out the WHY of it. It could be to get his affection again, or to provide a sort of alibi while they also rob him blind. Perhaps under 'extreme torture' she reveals the combination to the safe.

 

[Guest]

Sound interesting BlessedBe, but what's your ending.

Divorce or does her husband find out he likes watching? Realistically it wouldn’t be easy for the husband to forgive his wife.

I know it's not too realistic for the hubby to "enjoy" watching as his bride becomes a slut, especially if he's a young man, but there are some men who "live a lifestyle" of a cuckold and/or enjoy having their wives "date". But, again, it seems to be older men who are into that idea.

I'm not certain if I, personally, would turn this into a story or not. (I'm actually putting a lot of idea and thought into a role play with a friend at the moment.) But, if I did, I wouldn't give away my ending anyway.

 

[Chicklet]

husband wants to leave?

what about the young lady? she's just been fucked harder and better than ever before. who cares if her husband still wants her or not; she's done with him. on to bigger and better things.

Chicklet

 

[Diane Marie]

Re: husband wants to leave?

what about the young lady? she's just been fucked harder and better than ever before. who cares if her husband still wants her or not; she's done with him. on to bigger and better things.

Chicklet

Sex, or for that matter making love, can be better with someone other then your husband. That would not necessarily change the way she feels about him. Other then wanting sex with others, she may still love him, want him in her life.

In my mind the real challenge would be to work out a solution where she can have him and still have sex with others. The easy way out is to have him like watching, but lets suppose he hated what happened.

Making it even more complicated she won’t satisfy her need for sex with others without him knowing but she also won’t stop.

 

[Guest]

I think that this idea is interesting. But there must not be the rape. Firts of all, when the couple is allready naked and have to begin the movie, the husband can't have a hard-on and then the producent of the film (i.e. the rich man) wants his money back. But the couple cannot afford this and the wife agrees to have sex with other (only one for the beggining) male. And so, step by step, the young couple agree to do more and more...

 

[Chicklet]

I think that this idea is interesting. But there must not be the rape.

the whole idea was rape.

 

[Guest]

the whole idea was rape.

And Zorro was voicing his opinion... Kinda similar to the "slippery consent" people.

 

[Chicklet]

 

[Guest]

Wow. Better not cross paths with Chicklet anymore today. Two sarcastic faces in like 5 minutes.

 

[Chicklet]

Wow. Better not cross paths with Chicklet anymore today. Two sarcastic faces in like 5 minutes.

in my defense, that first rolleyes face was put up about an hour ago = )

cross my path any time you like. makes life more fun.

 

[Guest]

No thanks. Not anymore.

 

[Chicklet]

didn't mean to make you sad

 

[Diane Marie]

I vote slippery consent

From a slippery consent person, one whom has strong beliefs about rape.

Here’s the way I see it, Fred’s original idea wasn’t very erotic. Girl/Boy go to studio, girl gets raped, end of story. Rape is not erotica, rape isn’t even about sex, it’s about control, it’s about the rapist degrading his victim. From the rapist point of view, rape may be just dandy. I assure you from his victims point of view it’s not great, it’s not erotic, it’s not even sexual.

BlessedBe, brings up the idea of slippery consent, interesting concept. I even like the idea of the guy going limp. I’m not to enthusiastic on her just consenting, heart of a slut or not, we need a way to lead her down this slippery sloop.

Chicklet brings up the idea of the husband not being able to perform, I like that better then the going limp. I like the idea that somehow the other men well help, but isn’t that the end of the story, unless that help comes without intercourse. Even that isn’t an easy sell for her husband, but they need the money. We could move along without the husband’s consent but it’s makes an interesting story if he’s inadvertently helping his wife down this slippery sloop, isn’t it? Some may think I’m a man hater, a husband helping his wife to her sexual liberation!

Foreplay isn’t a real big thing with the husband, to bad for his wife, it’s all about intercourse. He not overly enthused about his wife having foreplay with another man but that is not cheating in his mind. He thinks about his little girl, he feel his wife isn’t really going to get turned on, he reluctantly consents to one man. The director say four men, and his wife has to fake intercourse. The director claims he’ll get a stand-in for the close-up shoots of the actual intercourse. The husband at first refuses, the director triples the pay if he’ll consent. In the husbands mind fucking counts as much to his wife as it does to him, he has no idea that sex to his wife is about foreplay, about having orgasms, a rarity for her in their sex life. Finally he consents.

I’d love to say men aren’t like that but that’s just not true. Way to many men suck as lovers just because they have it in their heads that intercourse is the main course, not the desert. Admittedly with most men that can be remedied. Some how it can’t be remedied with our lead male, I want this man likable, I want this man to be someone lovable, a woman’s dream come true, that is if he could really make love, he can’t. Lets give the man lots of wonderful qualities. His major character flaw is an over inflated ego, about a lot of things but foremost he thinks he’s fantastic in bed, nothing the wife tries improves their sex life. How could it, he won’t change, he’s Mr. Perfect in bed.

The only major flaw left as I see it is the motivation. There is only the two of them, their young, they have no real responsibility, just how desperate can they be. Being young, newly married, not having money is the norm, people get by, they don’t star in amateur porn flicks. We could make them both rather adventuresome sexually, but in my mind that kills the slippery consent idea. Lets make them a little older, two children, both girls, one 2 the other 4. The birth of the first child was when the wife was 20, husband was 23. The 4 year old needs some type of operation, not life threatening but badly needed. They don’t have insurance, they don’t have the money, they’ll do just about anything to get the money, thus the amateur porno.

Let cover the leading lady. She’s not a slut at heart but lets just say she hides her sexuality. She also hides the fact that she’s a bit of an exhibitionist, making it easier for her to perform on tape. Maybe we need to hide this only from the husband, maybe she loves to flash. Maybe she went out one night with her girl friends, somehow they ended up at a strip club, it happened to be amateur night, she ended up getting drunk, then stripped, she found she loved being watched.

Aside from one man, one weekend, about two month before her wedding, she’s never slept with any man other then her husband. Of course to fit my line of thinking, that one time the sex was fantastic. How that happened is up to the writer. She can even feel she didn’t cheat, they weren’t married yet.

She almost cheated once with her past boss, she lost complete control, he did perform oral, she had orgasms. This happened in the warehouse of the company where she worked. The only reason she didn’t have intercourse was they were interrupted by 3 male coworkers, they weren’t caught but it was close. As guilty as this makes her feel, she has this recurring fantasy about the three men catching them in the act. They want to join in the fun, she at first protest but she finally loses control and they join in. Slippery consent, she protest, they start to kiss her, to feel her, she no longer wants to resist. If we carry the lust far enough, I can even see them teasing her until she begs them to join in. It’s my fantasy so I can do as I please!

Sex as I’ve stated isn’t great at home, so lets give her the sexual desire to cheat but the morals of a good catholic girl, I know that dilemma, making it harder for her to actually do so. Maybe we could build that desire throughout the story, the less satisfied she becomes with the, is that all there is, sex life of her marriage, the more desirous other men seem to be.

For an added twist, lets have the film maker using the amateur angle as a way to find new talent for his business. The husband doesn’t fit his needs, being he’s thin, and average in penis size, male porn stars are never average. The wife fits perfectly. He also see her turn nature, he see possibilities. Somehow he’s gotten the wife to tell him about her fantasy, he uses that when the husband fails to perform. How he gets her to tell him, I’m not really sure. I can see her getting lost in her fantasy, going to far, refusing to stop even as her husband screams his protest.

One other point, testing for STD’s is standard in the porn industry. For our story the husband and wife first go to an interview, at this interview they are accepted, of course it’s because of the wife not the husband. The director seeing the potential of the wife decides they’d better be tested for STD’s . He makes that a requirement before he’ll do the film.. This does two things, first it reinforce in the wife’s mind that if she did end up having sex with someone other then her husband, they’d have also been tested, making it safe sex. Second, it should be a dead give away to both that there is something more involved then the filming of the two of them together. She understands the implications, giving her the choice to back out, she thinks about backing out but her fantasies get the better of her.

The husband on the other hand just doesn’t get it, I’m not trying to say he’s stupid but the plot works better if he has no idea. I think the writer could play with this also, at first having her know, but in her mind feeling she’d still only have sex with her husband. Later building through her fantasies to wanting more. I can see her almost giddy with sexual desire as they both enter the studio for they’re film debut. It might even help if during the time the couple was waiting for their interview, she met and became very attracted to a couple of the male porn stars. We could even carry this further to include a couple of the female porn stars. Damn it Diane, stop already, your making this more complicated then you already have. Ok but I like that twist, suits me just fine, as a matter of fact, oh never mind.

I don’t know the ending, besides I’d rather be surprised. Lots of endings, a porn star is born, she regrets what she’s done but gets the boot anyway, then again maybe he forgives her. He finds he likes watching. So, so many possibilities. One I’d really like to see, he hates watching, she want this life style, doesn’t have to be a porn star but at the very least her sexual freedom, somehow they remain in love, somehow it works out. The easy way out is for him to see the error of his ways, he becomes a lover. I don’t want easy. He does become a lover but she wants more, much more, she want others in her sex life. I just wrote it but I want reality, show me how. Impossible or just complicated?

This would be a first for me, the husband as the good guy, the wife as kind of the villain. Although I’d rather refer to her as finding her liberation. I really don’t have the time to do this story, at least not for five or six months, if anyone else does I’d be interested in reading it.

 

[Un-registered]

Re: I vote slippery consent

... Rape is not erotica, rape isn’t even about sex, it’s about control, it’s about the rapist degrading his victim. From the rapist point of view, rape may be just dandy. I assure you from his victims point of view it’s not great, it’s not erotic, it’s not even sexual ...

Some people, perhaps the majority of people may feel it regrettable, but it is a fact that control is what excites some people (men especially) sexually.

 

[beths-virtue]

i have to agree, i dont see rape as erotic or even sexy, but thats based on my preferneces, others, yes, truthfully, males in the majority, do like this type of control story

 

[Guest]

Rape is not erotica, rape isn’t even about sex, it’s about control, it’s about the rapist degrading his victim. From the rapist point of view, rape may be just dandy. I assure you from his victims point of view it’s not great, it’s not erotic, it’s not even sexual.

I doubt any one person here would say otherwise. This is not the "issue" here. Hell, I'm a survivor of rape. It's happened to me twice. But that doesn't change who I am. I am still a submissive masochist and I enjoy many aspects of "rough sex" with the right man. But, of course, I am consenting to that. I know.

Un-registered was on to something there...kinda. I can't speak for others in the BDSM lifestyle, but I can guess that many feel the same (or similar) way... I enjoy giving up control to a man. Again, it's with a man I know and trust. I have had "play rape" scenarios. In fact, after my most recent one, role playing helped me recover and deal with issues.

Don't knock something you don't understand. I highly doubt that any woman who has written a "rape" story or who has posted on a thread like this is saying "Come 'really' rape me!" Just as I doubt any man who has written a "rape" story or who has posted on a thread like this is thinking If she won't give it to me, I'll just rape her...and risk the jail time and a record.

And, as Sirhugs has pointed out (on other topics), erotica is not the same as real life.

 

[Chicklet]

Don't knock something you don't understand. I highly doubt that any woman who has written a "rape" story or who has posted on a thread like this is saying "Come 'really' rape me!"

no doubt! the other night I had to walk 8 miles home from work at midnight and there was this shortcut through a park and I considered it for like sixty seconds before saying to myself "didn't I write a story about a girl taking a shortcut through a park?" and then I decided *not* to do it hehehe

Chicklet

 

[ericviking69]

Consenting Rape

no doubt! the other night I had to walk 8 miles home from work at midnight and there was this shortcut through a park and I considered it for like sixty seconds before saying to myself "didn't I write a story about a girl taking a shortcut through a park?" and then I decided *not* to do it hehehe

Chicklet

Although it is not truly rape....I would love to arrange a "date" with you on that short cut....

 

[Chicklet]

perhaps such a date would inspire my boyfriend to come pick me up

 

[BlackSnake]

i have to agree, i dont see rape as erotic or even sexy, but thats based on my preferneces, others, yes, truthfully, males in the majority, do like this type of control story

You scope is way to broad. If you know of guys who like rape, then you know of a few. You're not even close when you say the "majority".

I like being in control when I feel that things are moving towards choas.

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