Rape Fantasy?

[Ariel_Marie]

i would love to roleplay that for some reason when i think Rape i think gangbang or interracial.

 

[justmethatswho]

It is an odd fantasy, though I will admit to having similar fantasies. Maybe more forceful by a stranger stranger or a friend/relative who takes me without consent. My fantasy would not contain brutal violence and the like. I guess that is just my two cents on the idea.

 

[mcevin]

OMG, I need a TITLE?

Post Deleted by Author because she was a BAD GRRL!

 

[eDJ]

Re:

dominika

That's an interesting observation. This thread has done quite a bit for me in rethinking my own definition of rape.

In some of the short stories I've written, where an older Professor forces himself on a young coed, my female readers have critiqued the female character as being "too easy" in succumbing. She should have put up more of a fight and if I'd develop that theme further the story could be so much more satisfying for them was the jist of the critiques. Granted the coed wanted it and was clever enough to stage the scene in the story so she would likely get the outcome she desired. But it was the thrill that the resistance if not fight would have added to the story line that rendered the deficit. But the crackling energy released in a struggle described in a hundred words or so seemed to be the orgasmatic essence for which the girls so yearned. I've seen so many instances in the past of girls quickly downing a drink before sex so that they could say later, "Oh, he plied me with liquor" as a buffer to their guilt. Should
the sex not go well then again they had an out.

This opens the discussion to the term "date rape" as well.

When I was a young boy I had fantasies of forcefully taking girls myself. The girls would have been at least twice my own age but never the less this kept
nagging me then. Today I'd call it self initiating behavior but back then I scared myself and yet couldn't quit coming back to it.

Now days I see scientific TV shows where film footage of sperm cells swarming around an egg in the womb is shown and I reflect on how similar it is to guys hitting on a girl. It doesn't appear to be too much different. Perhaps it's just our nature that extends from the first cell at conception to envelop all of our cells at sexual maturity and have them behave similarly.

Just my observation.

 

[kskittles]

When I think of rape fantasies, it always involves numerous men, not just one.

 

[cuck_wantobe]

Is blackmail rape?

I love the idea of my wife consenting to sex she wouldn't otherwise have (I am her first and only) because of some impropriety on her part. If I were to witness this, I think I might die from dehydration, I'd come so long and hard.

Yet, if someone physically assaulted my wife, I'd likely kill them with my bare hands.

 

[LusciousLoralie]

I love the idea of my wife consenting to sex she wouldn't otherwise have (I am her first and only) because of some impropriety on her part. If I were to witness this, I think I might die from dehydration, I'd come so long and hard.

Yet, if someone physically assaulted my wife, I'd likely kill them with my bare hands.

I envy her very deeply.

 

[cuck_wantobe]

I envy her very deeply.

Ouch, I think.

I probably should have added that the blackmail sex is completely non-violent, he's a hugely endowed and incredibly gifted performer, and she has the first, and 15th, intercourse induced orgasms of her life.

 

[infinity706]

According to psychiatrist's most women have a rape fantasy of some sort or other, they have done survey's in the women's magazines as well.

See the problem here is it's not really a rape fantasy, it's just called that. What most women have as their rape fantasy is a big handsome man picking her up putting her gently on the bed tying her hands to the headboard ripping her clothes off, or taking them off gently it varies, mainly house wives want taken off gently and not married yet want ripped. After getting her naked he pleasures her with his tongue then slides in and passionately makes love to her. What most women have is a forced seduction fantasy.

Course some are weird and want a little more violent. Say, guy comes up behind her grabs her pulls her over to something to bend her over rips her panties off skirt up and shoves his cock in and pumps until he shoots. It's alot of fun really you should try it.

Course if you are gonna go there go commando, saves on the panty expenses.

Yeah 'rape' fantasy ranks way up there in womens' fantasy polls constantly, of course, another woman consistantly ranks up very highly as well. I really think the good girls don't attitude is still somewhat prevalent even though women are openly allowed to enjoy sex. There still aren't that many women willing to take charge and make the first move, though.

 

[The_Corrupter]

Reading this thread with great interest.

A number of points:

Yes, certainly bona fide rape differs from what I understand to be a lot of women's 'forced sex with a handsome stranger' fantasies. Many female posters have expressed this point.

Yes, whether it's a popular view with feminists or not, there are different gradations with rape - the knife at the throat in the park is rather different from the drunken romp at the end of an evening, where the male mistakenly (or not) believes that consent has been given through the woman's earlier actions. Add in blackmail, drugging, gang-rape for even more of a spectrum.

I think the point about forced sex taking away guilt is very interesting. Of course for rape victims proper, being raped often makes them feel guilty, and leads to all sorts of sexual and other psychological problems.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

Reading this thread with great interest.

A number of points:

Yes, certainly bona fide rape differs from what I understand to be a lot of women's 'forced sex with a handsome stranger' fantasies. Many female posters have expressed this point.

Yes, whether it's a popular view with feminists or not, there are different gradations with rape - the knife at the throat in the park is rather different from the drunken romp at the end of an evening, where the male mistakenly (or not) believes that consent has been given through the woman's earlier actions. Add in blackmail, drugging, gang-rape for even more of a spectrum.

I think the point about forced sex taking away guilt is very interesting. Of course for rape victims proper, being raped often makes them feel guilty, and leads to all sorts of sexual and other psychological problems.

I find the discussion quite intriguing and am forced to rework a story I had written based on it. hopefully it will be done soon.

I do wonder though about your last point on the lasting psychological effects of rape - in the real world. While many women have stated they have a "forced sex fantasy" to be guilt free from having sex, the guilt of being forced does often linger. I've known too many women who have been raped - one very violently, some date-rape, others manipulated/forced - that all continued to deal with it years later...

while, in the final analysis, it is all rape, the recognition of different types of rape obviously seems to be important. but is labelling them all rape actually creating many of the psychological problems? I don't know if I am articulating this clearly - but do our mental coping mechanisms get played upon when what we (a woman) experiences is labeled "rape", thus often creating more intense guilt and pyschological problems???

 

[The_Corrupter]

I find the discussion quite intriguing and am forced to rework a story I had written based on it. hopefully it will be done soon.

I do wonder though about your last point on the lasting psychological effects of rape - in the real world. While many women have stated they have a "forced sex fantasy" to be guilt free from having sex, the guilt of being forced does often linger. I've known too many women who have been raped - one very violently, some date-rape, others manipulated/forced - that all continued to deal with it years later...

while, in the final analysis, it is all rape, the recognition of different types of rape obviously seems to be important. but is labelling them all rape actually creating many of the psychological problems? I don't know if I am articulating this clearly - but do our mental coping mechanisms get played upon when what we (a woman) experiences is labeled "rape", thus often creating more intense guilt and pyschological problems???

The point about definitions is fair, and there has been some discussion in the UK as to whether there should be different categories of crime between 'violent' rape and 'date' rape, even where is latter is proven to be a genuinely forced scenario.

I too have known a woman who was raped, at 16, by two guys, after a party. Certainly this was non-consensual and has coloured her attitude to sex subsequently, in several different ways - guilt, worthlessness, promiscuity to indicate just three related problems.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

three of the four women I know who were raped, one quite young by a relative, another violently with a gun, another drunken date rape, all seem to be today quite "promiscuous" - and definately not guilt free... the one who isn't was raped at a much later age.

but now we are getting into reality, and that always ruins a good fantasy!

 

[LindsayRae]

Lost, did you ever post your story yet? How's it coming?

 

[Lost_Yonder]

Lost, did you ever post your story yet? How's it coming?

I'm afraid not yet - unfortunately reality does kick us in the ass sometimes, so my writing has gone to the back burner - but soon...

 

[LindsayRae]

I'm afraid not yet - unfortunately reality does kick us in the ass sometimes, so my writing has gone to the back burner - but soon...

Boy, I know that! lol Good luck in getting it done.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

Boy, I know that! lol Good luck in getting it done.

maybe a little inspiration would help

i didn't realize you went through a metamorphoses - welcome to the new you!

 

[CopperSkink]

I've also noticed a certain degree of corelation between rape and promiscuity. A friend of mine was raped as a child by her uncle, and by age sixteen she had been in bed with four guys and four girls, and she fully expected me to start hitting on her as a result of securing her as a friend.
Then there's Taylor Rain the porn actress, having been raped at the age of ten if memory serves.
The first Playboy I read had a playmate who said her first sexual experience was at thirteen, and she did nude/adult related work since.

Those I know who didn't have sexual experiences at an early age, rape or otherwise, and including myself, tended to have a lower drive for risqué sex, multiple partners, or higher volumes.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

oh, I disagree. Sexuality is very complex. The examples you gave are one side of the story. Some people who are raped become closed off to sex. I've heard of women who become obese after childhood sexual abuse as a subconscious way to distance themselves from sex and men. People could go either way in response to rape, child abuse, and early sexual experiences.

ETA:
And though I have been the victim of rape and sexual assaults, I have always been able to keep my consensual sex compartmentalized as totally different from the rapes. They really are not related. Rape and consensual sex have nothing in common except penetration. However, I do have rape FANTASIES. Figure that one out. (I already have, but I'm not getting into all that. LOL) I also recognize that when I act out a fantasy it is nothing at all like a real rape. (I'm very good at compartmentalizing.) And though I would vote that 'I have been raped and it is no fantasy" which is very true! There's no choice for "I have been raped, but I also have (act out?) the fantasies."

 

[Lost_Yonder]

I have no doubt you are right Lady, it is more complex and never are the simple equations so simple...

Ultimately, what I was trying to question though was that there are lasting effects of rape, which seems to run counter to the fantasy idea that rape is away of having sex, guilt free. How do women weigh the ugly realities of rape, not just the act, but the lasting effects, with the fantasy of being raped/forced?

 

[Lost_Yonder]

ETA:
And though I have been the victim of rape and sexual assaults, I have always been able to keep my consensual sex compartmentalized as totally different from the rapes. They really are not related. Rape and consensual sex have nothing in common except penetration. However, I do have rape FANTASIES. Figure that one out. (I already have, but I'm not getting into all that. LOL) I also recognize that when I act out a fantasy it is nothing at all like a real rape. (I'm very good at compartmentalizing.) And though I would vote that 'I have been raped and it is no fantasy" which is very true! There's no choice for "I have been raped, but I also have (act out?) the fantasies."

A most intriguing revelation... I can see where a roleplay, an acting out rape with a loved and trusted one can be easily separated from actual rape. power to you for finding a mechanism of coping that allows you fulfillment.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

I believe you probably posted while I was editing my post. (sorry)
I am the victim of a violent rape and sexual assaults and ended up with PTSD due to those. BUT, I've always had (and act out) the rape fantasy and still do. I think the misconception here is that women who have the rape fantasy want to actually be raped. I would guess that most women who have a rape fantasy would only want a fantasy rape- not a real one.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

A most intriguing revelation... I can see where a roleplay, an acting out rape with a loved and trusted one can be easily separated from actual rape. power to you for finding a mechanism of coping that allows you fulfillment.

Thank you. And I just realized that there's no need to go into how or why since it's pretty much spelled out in my story- From Rape to Fantasy

 

[Lost_Yonder]

nothing like posting simultenously!

I would venture to guess you are right, which seems to shatter the general perception that most women have rape fantasies - it doesn't seem to be so black and white. Thus my reason for starting the thread, trying to make sense of it all.

Though I'd guess there are a few that actually do want to be raped/forced by a stranger...

 

[Lost_Yonder]

Thank you. And I just realized that there's no need to go into how or why since it's pretty much spelled out in my story- From Rape to Fantasy

I look forward to reading it as I try to finish my own story about a rape that the discussion in the thread is forcing me to rethink.