Randy Rhoads

[Conager]

lolwut?

 

[bestone4ever]

No doubt about it. He introduced classical music to mainstream metal. I think Dee was his masterpiece.

I really like the relationship between Randy and Ozzy. To start a great "solo" career after Sabbath was incredible.

 

[juttjaw]

No doubt about it. He introduced classical music to mainstream metal. I think Dee was his masterpiece.

It's funny when you research rock/metal/alt/prog and others, how much classical pops up. It's the root of all music. Not all, but close. It's also funny when you find out your favorite guitarist/pianist/percussionist was classically trained. Seems elite musicians are mostly classically trained.

 

[naughtymind]

No, not the best, but an innovator. Every "better" player has his roots to thank. It's what happens, people strive to copy, then add their own content. Few people are the end all and be all of musicianship. There are a few, but that's open for debate as well. Randy helped create the metal that made guitar players better. A lot to be said about that.

Possibly the most sane comment of this thread. I’m far from being a major metal head, even further from being a pop music fan, but even I can respect what Ozzy and Randy Rhodes have contributed to our musical pleasure. I thank both of them. Not even close to being “the best”, but that’s such a pointless and undefinable title for any artist of any medium. Its never about being “the best” for any of the real great ones; it’s about being their best.

 

[bestone4ever]

For some reason Ozzy always lands feet down. The guy helped a lot of good guitarists get started too.

Zakk
Randy
Jake

My favorites.

 

[bestone4ever]

Yeah, I always liked Jake's style. As a kid, I got to see him in Montreal on the Ultimate Sin tour .

That's so cool!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Black Sabbath > BotBitch's retarded black metal bands.

FunkyTown.....I didn't list any black metal.

I posted progressive Djent and technical death metal.

Do you even know what black metal is???

The ground work for bots butt metal.

Given the sweeping and tapping in the stuff I posted I see the innovative groundwork for what I posted was laid by guitarist with a bit more skill that really spawned a new sound to metal and innovative ways of using a guitar for metal. Something that had not been done before.

Leaving his fingerprints on damn near everything metal from 1977 forward from Pantera's Dime (who himself really took metal guitar to another level.) to the tech-Djent I posted earlier.

The guitarist I speak of is of course one Edward Lodewijk Van Halen.
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[BotanyBoy]

Zakk
Randy
Jake

My favorites.

Zakk is a favorite.....especially among the right wing, vets, bikers and other overwhelmingly pro-Trump demographics.

All that toxic masculinity, I mean just look at the mane on that guy...
https://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Zakk-Wylde.jpg?quality=80&w=807https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7f/10/95/7f10959b01d37ff13e916ac1683e0aff.jpg


Majestic beast.....and he's totally proud to be Christian and Celtic/Germanic too.

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[Dribble]

He was 25. That's it. And he was an accomplished classical guitar player. Trained.

Was he "great"? Like top 5? No. Mediocre? No. Top 20? Possibly...he was only 25...hard to find an appropriate ranking. What made ozzy great at that time? Randy.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

https://youtu.be/FVovq9TGBw0

One of the best guitarists ever. Crazy Train was his masterpiece and I want someone to look at me the way Ozzy looks at Randy.

https://youtu.be/lvFcygqg3h0

https://youtu.be/Eq4x9Ek66es

Agreed. One of the greats

 

[BotanyBoy]

I was going to start a thread about this the other day, but then decided not to, so I will just post this here.

I ordered this bad boy the other day. Can't wait...

https://www.long-mcquade.com/157212...ocaster--Maple-Fingerboard---Aged-Natural.htm

Nice.....always been an offset body/tele guy myself but I appreciate the strat, always just something else I want that keeps me from pulling the trigger on one.

Congrats on the new Fender.

 

[bestone4ever]

SG Guitars

 

[juttjaw]

I'm a Gibson guy, always have been, but for some reason about 5 months ago I got the urge for a new guitar and decided on going with the strat.
The natural aged look is sweet, hope to have it in my hands late feb.

I'm a Martin guy. However, I have owned les Paul's in the past. I've been hearing some awesome things about fenders new noiseless pickups. Haven't heard any in person yet, but from sound tests they seem great! There is a time and a place for noisey pickups, then there is another place for letting the tone really ring out. Unmolested.

I had a 40 year old sugar maple taken down last year. I had the tree guys cut out some quarter sawn slabs for me. One day (maybe) I'll get around to finally making my Tele body. I have a ash srtat body and a mighty mite neck I'm in the process of getting completed. I think I'm going to go full on Franken strat.

I never did get around to sending you my signiture Yari picks. It's proving to be all the workhorse my Martin D-18 is. Unfortunately, I haven't had much time to play recently. It's a shame. I've also had my eye on the Martin HD-28 VTS too. Maybe next year I'll pull the trigger on that. Last I saw they had come down to around the $4,000 price range.

And Sabastian Bach from skid row was a sneaky gem. His non metal work is amazing. True genius.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm a Gibson guy, always have been, but for some reason about 5 months ago I got the urge for a new guitar and decided on going with the strat.
The natural aged look is sweet, hope to have it in my hands late feb.

I like Gibson, I started on an epi les paul standard, the cheap ass (at the time) Korean (I think) model. And for a couple bones it was a great guitar. Got myself a Gibson LP standard in cherry sunburst later on and still have it. Probably will until I die.

Then one day I got a bug up my ass for something new, went to the center and fell for a tuxedo tele.

Then as it goes I wound up with a few more, a Jazzmaster, and a pair of Ibanez Universe's over the last 18 years.

All this tele talk....feel some ZZ Top coming on.

 

[juttjaw]

I don't think I'm who you think I am.

When I retire I plan on making a guitar from scratch, for now I'm planning on starting a collection. New guitar every 2 or 3 years is the plan.

Sorry!

1. I ment 'didn't'
2. Sorry if I projected.

I've been slowly working my way up in building. I'm not sure I have enough talent to ever build anything up to my lofty standards. I do fine work, but I haven't gone full in yet. My Yari will be my 1st full fret job. Thank God for Stew-Mac!

 

[Dribble]

#36

I am ok w this...but I do think it should have been higher

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-guitarists-153675/

Look at who voted...hey batboy...is your name on the list?

 

[juttjaw]

https://www.trillmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Image-01-03-2018-at-11.25-550x400.jpg

Luca Stricagnoli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIpOxa5hxOw

Poor man's Tommy Emanuel.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Randy Rhodes was the guitarist who single handedly got me into metal at age 12. I didn't even know what heavy metal WAS until I heard Ozzy's "Over the Mountain." Then I knew, I had to have more of THAT sound. It wasn't just his technical ability. It was the way he would subtly embellish the riffs, with a scale run here, or an extra note or harmonic there, making what seemed like a simple riff sound so elegant. None of the other guitarists that Ozzy has played with were as good at this, and none of them were the songwriter or riff writer that Randy was. Not Jake E. Lee, and certainly not Zakk. Now, both of those guys are undeniably talented and I wont take anything away from them, but Randy just seemed to have something that those other guys don't.

And there aren't many guitarists nowadays, metal or otherwise, that had Randy's flair for composition and playing. Too many of them just overdo it, showing off with overly fast licks and mindless shredding, or aimless noodling. Techniclaly precise but with no soul or sense of how to subtly embellish a lick without ruining it by being too flashy. Randy just had a sense of melody and phrasing in his playing that few others could really approach.

Yes I was a huge Rhodes fan. He was a big part of my musical education during my formative years and a big part of why Ozzy became my idol as a kid, and also, sadly, why I lost interest in him by the end of the 1980s.

 

[BotanyBoy]

#36

I am ok w this...but I do think it should have been higher

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-guitarists-153675/

Look at who voted...hey batboy...is your name on the list?

Hey Dribble....it's RollingTrash, I don't care what pop music rags say about guitar players.

Opinions about musicians by people who don't know shit about music aren't all that appealing to those of us who do know about music.

The fact that you're leaning on them shows just how insecure you are in your own opinions.

Might as well be the Grammy awards....an awards show for people who don't know shit about music.

 

[Jada59]

Hells yeah!

 

[Polyacrylate]

I got into metal because of Randy. Blizzard of Ozz was the gateway and I will always come back to St. Rhoads. Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley were both a blast to learn on guitar as a teenager, to play in clubs with my band, and are still fun to play now. From Ozzy and Randy, I got into New Wave of British Heavy Metal - Maiden and Priest and Diamond Head and the like. Then American Thrash, of which I would claim Master of Puppets to still represents a high water mark, though Megadeth's Rust in Peace is phenomenal.

And then I got into the Scandinavian stuff. I was lucky enough to get into In Flames when they were in their prime, seeing them on early US tours, and they've remained one of my favorites. I got into other european bands... Dark Tranquility and Amon Amarth. Children of Bodom and Tyr. And on and on. Bands that played power metal, black metal, progressive death metal, technical metal. Math metal. All kinds of different subgenres. I loved them all.

There's room for everything, and the hipster metal fans pushing for purity, extremism, and exclusion in the genre don't do us any favors. The whole Trve Cvlt crowd and the technique and only technique crowd all really freaking bore me.

 

[bestone4ever]

Randy Rhodes was the guitarist who single handedly got me into metal at age 12. I didn't even know what heavy metal WAS until I heard Ozzy's "Over the Mountain." Then I knew, I had to have more of THAT sound. It wasn't just his technical ability. It was the way he would subtly embellish the riffs, with a scale run here, or an extra note or harmonic there, making what seemed like a simple riff sound so elegant. None of the other guitarists that Ozzy has played with were as good at this, and none of them were the songwriter or riff writer that Randy was. Not Jake E. Lee, and certainly not Zakk. Now, both of those guys are undeniably talented and I wont take anything away from them, but Randy just seemed to have something that those other guys don't.

And there aren't many guitarists nowadays, metal or otherwise, that had Randy's flair for composition and playing. Too many of them just overdo it, showing off with overly fast licks and mindless shredding, or aimless noodling. Techniclaly precise but with no soul or sense of how to subtly embellish a lick without ruining it by being too flashy. Randy just had a sense of melody and phrasing in his playing that few others could really approach.

Yes I was a huge Rhodes fan. He was a big part of my musical education during my formative years and a big part of why Ozzy became my idol as a kid, and also, sadly, why I lost interest in him by the end of the 1980s.

I got into metal because of Randy. Blizzard of Ozz was the gateway and I will always come back to St. Rhoads. Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley were both a blast to learn on guitar as a teenager, to play in clubs with my band, and are still fun to play now. From Ozzy and Randy, I got into New Wave of British Heavy Metal - Maiden and Priest and Diamond Head and the like. Then American Thrash, of which I would claim Master of Puppets to still represents a high water mark, though Megadeth's Rust in Peace is phenomenal.

And then I got into the Scandinavian stuff. I was lucky enough to get into In Flames when they were in their prime, seeing them on early US tours, and they've remained one of my favorites. I got into other european bands... Dark Tranquility and Amon Amarth. Children of Bodom and Tyr. And on and on. Bands that played power metal, black metal, progressive death metal, technical metal. Math metal. All kinds of different subgenres. I loved them all.

There's room for everything, and the hipster metal fans pushing for purity, extremism, and exclusion in the genre don't do us any favors. The whole Trve Cvlt crowd and the technique and only technique crowd all really freaking bore me.

Love these replies.