R.I.P. paperback books

[PennyThompson]

This is the most "no facts, only vibes" post I've seen on here in a while, and that title doesn't lack for competition

 

[Off_base]

This is the most "no facts, only vibes" post I've seen on here in a while, and that title doesn't lack for competition

I can't even find an emoji that expresses my feelings about this post. R.i.p. emojis

 

[PennyThompson]

I can't even find an emoji that expresses my feelings about this post. R.i.p. emojis

Emojis are being killed by AI??

 

[MillieDynamite]

a degree in music is worthless. Humans can not compete with A.I. in terms of songwriting & arrangement

First, none of the Beatles holds a college degree that isn't honorary. Roger Daltrey has an honorary degree, but not an earned by-the-books degree. Then you have The Monkees, and yes, they were talented. Davy Jones had a law degree, and Peter Tork attended Carleton College but did not graduate. The other two members, Micky Dolenz and Michael Nesmith, do not have a college degree. In fact, some of the most talented musicians have never attended higher education schools.

 

[Nynah]

Spotify is the largest music platform, still turning unknowns into stars, as we speak.

Sadly, Spotify is pushing AI and other unsavory things into their ecosystem so it's becoming as enshittified as some of the other "mainstream" services nowadays. Before I stopped using it this year, the degraded quality of the Wrapped feature was quite notable, the algorithm suggesting new music based on my tastes was awful and the number of AI "musicians" and musicians who use AI for promotion/marketing was increasing. Really sad.

 

[Off_base]

Teenagers write songs in their bedrooms and become millionaires these days. Cough, Billie Eillish.
AI can write and arrange songs, by stealing ideas it's heard from humans, but it can't perform live.
That will never change.

 

[SebastianHolt]

PRS, Yamaha, Taylor, epiphone, Ibanez, Jackson, Gretsch, Schechter, Ernie Ball, Warwick, Washburn...
I can keep going, if you want?

Well, Epiphone is owned by Gibson, while Fender owns Jackson. Washburn, is dead if you ask me

 

[SebastianHolt]

Teenagers write songs in their bedrooms and become millionaires these days. Cough, Billie Eillish.
AI can write and arrange songs, by stealing ideas it's heard from humans, but it can't perform live.
That will never change.

It will be interesting. Can A.I. perform via holograms (in the future, when that technology is perfected? )

 

[Off_base]

Sadly, Spotify is pushing AI and other unsavory things into their ecosystem so it's becoming as enshittified as some of the other "mainstream" services nowadays. Before I stopped using it this year, the degraded quality of the Wrapped feature was quite notable, the algorithm suggesting new music based on my tastes was awful and the number of AI "musicians" and musicians who use AI for promotion/marketing was increasing. Really sad.

I haven't been on it in a couple years, sad to hear it's going that way.
I still think it's a limited and mostly very young part of the population who will fully embrace ai produced music over human produced. People are still in love with musicians.

 

[Off_base]

It will be interesting. Can A.I. perform via holograms (in the future, when that technology is perfected? )

There's hologram concerts now. But somehow, live human shows keep selling out.

 

[Off_base]

Well, Epiphone is owned by Gibson, while Fender owns Jackson. Washburn, is dead if you ask me

I get where you're coming from, truly I do.
It's easy, in an age of false information and artificial facts, to think of AI as a living thing that will become self aware and take over everything.
In reality, it's a made-up name for a fast and efficient way that computers gather information, that they can only gather from sources that humans allow them access to.
It might be fun to fantasize about it, but it's not the sci-fi monster that it's being hyped as. Data in, data out. It only knows data.


Oh, this is giving me a headache

 

[Britva415]

First, none of the Beatles holds a college degree that isn't honorary. Roger Daltrey has an honorary degree, but not an earned by-the-books degree. Then you have The Monkees, and yes, they were talented. Davy Jones had a law degree, and Peter Tork attended Carleton College but did not graduate. The other two members, Micky Dolenz and Michael Nesmith, do not have a college degree. In fact, some of the most talented musicians have never attended higher education schools.

Imagine going to music school to learn how to succeed at POP music.

Honestly, it kind of matches my experience as a professional chef. Cooks who learned on the job outperform cooks who went to cooking school first by any metric of performance you can name.

Sure, those people went on to more lucrative careers as hospitality executives, but you wouldn't want them on the line on a Friday night. Or, really, any night.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Imagine going to music school to learn how to succeed at POP music.

Honestly, it kind of matches my experience as a professional chef. Cooks who learned on the job outperform cooks who went to cooking school first by any metric of performance you can name.

Sure, those people went on to more lucrative careers as hospitality executives, but you wouldn't want them on the line on a Friday night. Or, really, any night.

My husband is a banquet chef. He never hires cooks. He hires dishwashers. When he has an opening for a cook, he promotes the dishwasher who is the best worker. He trains them to do things the way he wants them done, not how they learned from some other chef.

 

[Off_base]

My husband is a banquet chef. He never hires cooks. He hires dishwashers. When he has an opening for a cook, he promotes the dishwasher who is the best worker. He trains them to do things the way he wants them done, not how they learned from some other chef.

A large number of touring musicians started as stage hands and techs, who were also good players and got the spot in the band when it opened up. Zach Meyers, guitarist for Shinedown, for example.

 

[MrPixel]

Imagine going to music school to learn how to succeed at POP music.

Sorry. There are music schools with programs in commercial music, and like it or not, they are the meat and potatoes of pop groups. Yes, the true talent is in front with a microphone, but in a studio and on stage in background, training is paramount.

Berklee is the most notable.

 

[Britva415]

Sorry. There are music schools with programs in commercial music, and like it or not, they are the meat and potatoes of pop groups. Yes, the true talent is in front with a microphone, but in a studio and on stage in background, training is paramount.

Berklee is the most notable.

I’m not going to get into a “no true Scotsman” situation about this, and I’m not going to deny that the music industry is full of professionals.

But I feel like other people know what I mean, whether you yourself do or not.

Nobody who’s a headlining frontperson or a popstar got those positions because they graduated Berklee.

 

[Off_base]

I’m not going to get into a “no true Scotsman” situation about this, and I’m not going to deny that the music industry is full of professionals.

But I feel like other people know what I mean, whether you yourself do or not.

Nobody who’s a headlining frontperson or a popstar got those positions because they graduated Berklee.

There are actually a lot of Berklee and MIT graduates that make it big, partly because of the skills they developed there.
There are even more self taught or naturally talented musicians, so skill is only one part of the requirements to get a spot with a successful artist or band. I've worked in the industry for twenty years, and in spite of AI being a hot topic of discussion and speculation, tour and merchandise profits are higher than pre-covid levels, and still climbing. AI is and will continue to influence the music business, but it will never kill live performances, which is how artists earn their money, now that album and cd sales are gone.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

First, none of the Beatles holds a college degree that isn't honorary. Roger Daltrey has an honorary degree, but not an earned by-the-books degree. Then you have The Monkees, and yes, they were talented. Davy Jones had a law degree, and Peter Tork attended Carleton College but did not graduate. The other two members, Micky Dolenz and Michael Nesmith, do not have a college degree. In fact, some of the most talented musicians have never attended higher education schools.

Brian May of Queen has a Ph. D.

He's a legit astrophysicist.

More relevant, of course, is Phish, a band named that because all the members had doctorates.

--Annie the Science Nerd

 

[TheWorldBuilder]

Brian started a PhD, then dropped out to join a band. Once that band had made him about £100,000,000 and stopped performing, he had the time and money to complete his studies.

Builder the Astrophysicist.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Teenagers write songs in their bedrooms and become millionaires these days. Cough, Billie Eillish.
AI can write and arrange songs, by stealing ideas it's heard from humans, but it can't perform live.
That will never change.

Billie Eillish is old! she's been at it for what, ten years?