questions for transsexuals
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Harlet_Minx
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Hmmm first I'm assuming you're asking about MTF transexuals and not FTM (everyone forgets the other half
). Well $23,000 operation might be one factor, or possibly some don't feel that their plumbing defines who they are, orrrrrr they're in the porn industry.
As to the effects of hormone therapy, that's up in the air (again, guessing you're asking about the effects of hormones on sexual performance). The effects of hormones are completely impossible to guess and are dependent on both your age and body chemistry. Typically the younger you are the more pronounced effects, and at least in most cases function is retained though there is a loss in libido for many. Also you pretty much stop producing sperm all together. Now like I said, the older the individual starts at typically the less of an effect and the higher the dosage is needed, partially because the testosterone has had more time to work it's way into the body. Also, MTF hormone therapy consists of estrogen and an anti androgen (or possibly progesterone but it's not recommended), FTMs however typically only take pure T.
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Money aside, surgery is a huge risk, carrying the possibility of permanent nerve damage or loss of orgasmic response.
I've been on hormones for a year. I've noticed a complete lack of unsolicited erections, but it still works fine when needed. I've also had a massive increase in libido, to the point of being maddeningly frustrating considering I have no partner. From what I've heard, I'm the exception. Most people have a decrease in libido.
I've been on hormones for a year. I've noticed a complete lack of unsolicited erections, but it still works fine when needed. I've also had a massive increase in libido, to the point of being maddeningly frustrating considering I have no partner. From what I've heard, I'm the exception. Most people have a decrease in libido.
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Heh, point proven iamtheowl, the effects of hormones.... am i the only one who thinks of whoremoans when I say it? Anyways, yeah the effects and result are anyones guess, for example my breasts developed extremely quickly but I also found I lactated which is uncommon for those a estrogen/spiro mix. But like in my case I started at 17 and within 3 months had a testosterone count of less then one, that raised my doctors eyebrows.
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If perchance you're referring to a recent story that's been out, the wife is incapable of bearing children, and a phalloplasty is MUCH worse then a vagioplasty, they run $100,000 and up and the results are poor at best. And a hysterectomy is just unnecessary. But I'm curious what defines being male? Or female for that matter? That's the difference between sex and gender, sex with current techniques is set in stone at birth, gender is mutable and defined by our personality. A FTM always has a female sex, but they can be a man.
thanks for the replies and Q2
I imagine that transsexuals like everyone else have different and varying sexual attractions. Are a majority of MTF atracted to men or women? Does sexual attraction/orientation have anything to do with the desire to change genders or is that secondary?
I imagine that transsexuals like everyone else have different and varying sexual attractions. Are a majority of MTF atracted to men or women? Does sexual attraction/orientation have anything to do with the desire to change genders or is that secondary?
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Oh good lord, do we really have to go there? *sighs* That story comes up everywhere I look!
HM, great response to this one. I'll only add that everyone is different in their desires for life. Having girl bits doesn't make a guy any less male...nobody would question that Buck Angel is a man's man! As for why get pregnant, why not? I think he's giving a great gift to his wife. Going off hormones for the entire pregnancy is a major sacrifice. I think he's incredibly brave for doing that, and even more so for opening himself up to being picked apart by people like us.
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I agree about that one, the gift of life is amazing and He is so lucky to be able to give it to his wife.
I was a straight male before I accepted my transgenderism. I am now a bisexual female with a stong preference for women. Sexual attraction truly has nothing to do with whether your male or female gender wise.
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I used to think so too, but not anymore. I've felt a fluttery feeling more than once around attractive men, something I've never experienced before starting hormones.
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Some people say that we are wired for "opposite sex" or "same sex" attraction, rather than being attracted to a particular gender. I know several trans people who were gay before their transition (preferred same sex) and are gay after their transition (prefer same sex again, but it's the other sex!).
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now thats interesting.
My attraction to women hasn't changed much it might be slightly less but not much. Though I never saw any appeal with man on man sex. Heterosex and lesbian sex always turned me on so maybe now that I'm a woman sex with a man just isn't a hang up. I don't know.
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I could see where some people think that based on that trans phenomena. However, I think the whole preference thing has no one answer. I don't think there is one kind of gay man, lesbian, straight man, straight woman. Plus I think there is way too much information put on the whole gender thing. I want to scream obscenities when I hear things like female or male soul. I think of how many times as a kid ones gender is called into question because they didn't follow some stupid norm. In my case, I always found crossing my legs as a table top uncomfortable. Or my hair was to long to cover a birth defect. When I hear that kind of rubbish, I want to say something like I have a tall soul or a Caucasian soul or an American soul. It is just one more way to slice and dice people in the us versus them mold.
Sure one could say that my preference are for same sex or the male sex. I don't quite see it that way if I just have to try to analyze it. I think human society has split us by gender namely because of the whole reproduction emphasis. My earliest recollections of sexuality was being so excited about an uncle by marriage that got up one morning and was hairy from top to bottom. I wanted to touch him so much. I didn't see his private parts, and I'm not even sure as a 4.5 year old that I was thinking about penises/vaginas. I just know that I wanted to be near this VERY hairy human being. As I got older I used to have so many fantasies about males that I found attractive. The theme was the same -- naked, and on all fours with their asses prominent. I don't think I understood fucking or sucking, but I yearned to touch a man's behind. Unfortunately, the only way I knew to releave some of that tension was an anti-social habit of occasionally patting adult women on their behind. It wasn't a habit, just a few times. I'm not very proud of it, but I fess up that I did it. It wasn't what I wanted to do, but it was a substitute for what I really wanted to do.
Emotionally, I think I leaned towards men because they weren't part of my life. My grandpa was sick and eventually died when I was 7.5 years old. I really loved him and remember how much I enjoyed hanging around him. Nothing pseudo sexual, just loved being around him. I had a cousin maybe 6-8 years older who stayed for about 6 months. I remember how sad I was when he left. Furthermore, my dad was like a dream person since he wasn't part of my flie since they separated before I was born and divorced when I was 2. Men were a mystery to me. It wasn't an emotional attraction because I was the same vs opposite sex. Just that they were a mystery that caused a strong interest. Women on the other hand were SO familiar to me. Comforting and always there. I was so close to my grandma. My mother had mental illness, so we weren't as close, but she was always there. I also had an aunt and female cousins. I also think the church (catholic) also had an affect. When I think of sex with a woman, I think of the Virgin Mary. It just seems kind of selfish and cruel to bang a woman. It would be like beating up on your grandmother, sister, a catholic saint, and also something very fragile and delicate -- like a glass figurine. Years later when I would see porn involving a woman, the thought never crossed my mind that she might actually enjoy it as indicated in the film. Rather, I think of her as being forced to do it to make money to survive or because the men were stronger.
Where as with sex with men seemed so natural (though I never did it until I was 21.5). In my head men tend to be pigs anyway, so I could fantasize about doing what I want without guild or shame. Also because I was kind of rejected by lots of the other boys because of my halr length, I tended to have fantasize of dominating those that oppressed me.
If tomorrow I were to wake up as a female, I couldn't fathom being with another woman sexually. I would still want to be with a man. I do think that given my desires, I would end up being some kind of dominatrix or whatever you call the kind of woman who typically uses a strap-on on guys. Even if I didn't physically have a penis, I would still want to get "inside" of a guy. His head, his ass, his mouth, etc. Not just because of a physical attraction to those body parts, but because I would still fee the craving to be accepted and wanted by the gender that I felt mysterious and non-permanent in my life. Nothing feels more desired or wanted than when you are physically inside someone. Since I always felt so accepted by females, I don't feel the "yearning" like I do with a guy. The thought of being sexually with a woman isn't gross or disgusting. It just seems very selfish and cruel to do especially since there is a feeling that they love and accept you anyway as their own child or sibling.
Darn, I'm tired. Too much so to know if this makes sense or not. I'll probably have to edit it some tomorrow...
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comments put in quote. up there ^
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Oh that is easy to explain. Sometimes in life we have to fight the same external stereotypes that are out there in public and creep into our own internal perception of the world. Are all men pigs? Are all women Virgin Marys? Obviously the answers are no. However, our early imprints/preconceptions aren't easy to over come. I have to deal with them as much as the next person.
The rage about stereotyping is specifically when it gets to the religious truth level. There are very few absolutes in the universe. However, when people get that way, then you might as well forget any discussion as they've turned it into a religion dogma.
I can give you another example. I went to a men's festival that was heavily influenced by pagans. Some of them talked about male spirits (essence) vs female spirits (essence) and how their retreat was ruined because the care taker (a woman) didn't leave the park for the weeks duration of the retreat.
At the same time these same people claimed to be very enlightened trashed (for instance) Christianity as being oppressive. It was a bunch of BS. At the same time that the lady was there, so were female birds, female mammals, female insects, etc. They ate products of female animals (eggs & dairy), etc. Likewise, they had plenty of drag there too. (Personally, I kind of see drag in the same light as whites with black painted faces, but that is another story.) So if their experience was compromised because a woman was living the grounds (By the way, she stayed in her cabin and only drove in and out as she had to leave -- she didn't try to interject herself into anything.) then it was all in their heads. They were just as oppressive as any religion they were trashing.
What was even funnier is that the locals tried to shut them down because of the nudity, homosexuality, and the paganism. You would think with all this intolerance around them, that they would have been more tolerant themselves. Again, I know pagans that aren't that way, so it isn't an attack on ALL pagans. There were just a very vocal group within them that clung to these sexist soul/spirit/essence ideas. I think many people cling to this notion because gender is the last area where it is "ok" to make an us vs them approach to other humans.
