Pushing against things in your writing

[EmilyMiller]

No I don’t mean headboards .

I had a thread (still do I guess) in Fetish & Sexuality about things that seem sexy, but aren’t so much in reality. For me it’s DPs, which I have never really got to work IRL. Kudos to the pornstars who make it look easy.

Anyway, this is not about DPs. On the same thread, I was amazed how many people felt that 69s weren’t all they were cracked up to be. What!!!!!!

Now I guess it’s been subconscious, I didn’t sit down and say to myself “let’s write lots of 69 scenes”, but I have been. There is an FF one in Determination and an MF one in a story I am currently writing. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

Do you ever think “that’s not right” and then reflect an alternative point of view in your writing? Doesn’t have to be sexual, of course.

Em

 

[PandemicReader8]

Does writing a character who is a homicidal psycho count?

 

[AlinaX]

I remember discussing dp with a fellow author who made a point of trying everything personally before writing about it. She said the logistics of making it work distracted too much from the pleasure of it.

I love 69, but it really has to be done with a partner you know is equally into it, which weirdly doesn't include the entire human population. And even then, getting a good position isn't necessarily straightforward.

But when I'm writing the scenarios, absolutely they're going to work out. Not necessarily perfectly, but well enough.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

No I don’t mean headboards .

I had a thread (still do I guess) in Fetish & Sexuality about things that seem sexy, but aren’t so much in reality. For me it’s DPs, which I have never really got to work IRL. Kudos to the pornstars who make it look easy.

Anyway, this is not about DPs. On the same thread, I was amazed how many people felt that 69s weren’t all they were cracked up to be. What!!!!!!

Now I guess it’s been subconscious, I didn’t sit down and say to myself “let’s write lots of 69 scenes”, but I have been. There is an FF one in Determination and an MF one in a story I am currently writing. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

Do you ever think “that’s not right” and then reflect an alternative point of view in your writing? Doesn’t have to be sexual, of course.

Em

I think the thing about writing is we don’t have to like it to write about it.

After HAF I’ve got a short revenge story that I will have no experience of (shock horror, person with no experience writes about experiences they haven’t had) and after that a possible virus story with who knows what comes next.

I don’t think you necessarily need to gain pleasure from an experience to know the pleasure that others may gain from it.

Personally I’ve never been drunk, barely drink alcohol or have taken drugs, but if I need to put it in a story I’ll smack that in there as it’ll be necessary for the story (side note, Mel gets very drunk in HAF part 4. Very twatted).

 

[Emilymcplugger]

No I don’t mean headboards .

I had a thread (still do I guess) in Fetish & Sexuality about things that seem sexy, but aren’t so much in reality. For me it’s DPs, which I have never really got to work IRL. Kudos to the pornstars who make it look easy.

Anyway, this is not about DPs. On the same thread, I was amazed how many people felt that 69s weren’t all they were cracked up to be. What!!!!!!

Now I guess it’s been subconscious, I didn’t sit down and say to myself “let’s write lots of 69 scenes”, but I have been. There is an FF one in Determination and an MF one in a story I am currently writing. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

Do you ever think “that’s not right” and then reflect an alternative point of view in your writing? Doesn’t have to be sexual, of course.

Em

And thanks for that link.

 

[MrPixel]

My "pushing against" is character-related. I have a fragile FC (the spinner mentioned elsewhere, Em) who the MMC took under his wing early in the story line. Yes, she is a romantic partner, but with a troubled past - victim of domestic violence - where he is helping her build confidence and a more wholesome sense of self. She is doing quite well as the story draws to its end, and her brilliance in both business and intimate affairs is shining through.

One of her interests with the MMC is moderate BDSM - restraints of all kinds, spanking, light flogging, crop and paddle play. Also a kinky interest in kitchen utensils ("magic spoon", she calls it)*. He is reluctant to go there with her because of her many years of being beaten as a child and then young adult in serial abusive relationships. She has to work hard to convince him that in the context of their loving relationship, she is attuned to the sensations of increasing intensity in their dungeon play.

I have to work hard in pushing against my own affections for this character to let the MMC give-in to her requests in their lovemaking for "more!" and "harder!". You know, the basic stuff.

* - A favorite kitchen tool she likes to tease the MMC with is a whisk. You know, the implement used to fluff egg whites and cream. He questions her what it's for as he is strapped to the St. Andrews cross, the answer being "Whipping, you silly goose!"

 

[EmilyMiller]

Personally I’ve never been drunk, don’t drink or have taken drugs, but if I need to put it in a story I’ll smack that in there as it’ll be necessary for the story (side note, Mel gets drunk in HAF part 4. Very twatted).

Oh! I get to do my one “joke”.

The only substances I’m addicted to are caffeine, alcohol and semen .

I tried weed in college and coughed my guts up after one puff. Not for asthmatics. Never tried any other drugs. I’m fond of my mind and don’t want it altered.

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

And thanks for that link.

My pleasure. Riley makes it look so easy.

Em

 

[alohadave]

I'm not a particular fan of blowjobs IRL, so I don't tend to want to write about them or read them.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

One of the FIRST rules of writing is, write about what you KNOW...

As Johnny so eloquently put it in AIRPLANE.

“No thanks!”

 

[EmilyMiller]

My "pushing against" is character-related. I have a fragile FC (the spinner mentioned elsewhere, Em) who the MMC took under his wing early in the story line. Yes, she is a romantic partner, but with a troubled past - victim of domestic violence - where he is helping her build confidence and a more wholesome sense of self. She is doing quite well as the story draws to its end, and her brilliance in both business and intimate affairs is shining through.

One of her interests with the MMC is moderate BDSM - restraints of all kinds, spanking, light flogging, crop and paddle play. Also a kinky interest in kitchen utensils ("magic spoon", she calls it)*. He is reluctant to go there with her because of her many years of being beaten as a child and then young adult in serial abusive relationships. She has to work hard to convince him that in the context of their loving relationship, she is attuned to the sensations of increasing intensity in their dungeon play.

I have to work hard in pushing against my own affections for this character to let the MMC give-in to her requests in their lovemaking for "more!" and "harder!". You know, the basic stuff.

* - A favorite kitchen tool she likes to tease the MMC with is a whisk. You know, the implement used to fluff egg whites and cream. He questions her what it's for as he is strapped to the St. Andrews cross, the answer being "Whipping, you silly goose!"

That sounds like very sweet and true to life writing, hun.

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm not a particular fan of blowjobs IRL, so I don't tend to want to write about them or read them.

 

[alohadave]

Oh! I get to do my one “joke”.

The only substances I’m addicted to are caffeine, alcohol and semen .

I tried weed in college and coughed my guts up after one puff. Not for asthmatics. Never tried any other drugs. I’m fond of my mind and don’t want it altered.

Em

The only thing pot did for my was to make me super giggly one time, and super paranoid the other.

It may not have helped that I was also drunk both times, and in the military, so I couldn't really experiment too much.

Now that it's mostly legal, I have a job that has federal oversight and random drug tests.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

I'm not a particular fan of blowjobs IRL, so I don't tend to want to write about them or read them.

Thought that was just me.

I know what you mean, in something else I wrote the character (a farmer) revealed that he never let anything with teeth around little-Jonathan. When asked why he held up his left hand to reveal a missing little finger that a calf had bitten off years ago.

However I don’t mind writing about stuff I don’t get as long as I can understand why others think they’re fun.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with "pushing against."

As far as 69 is concerned, it's not my favorite. I don't think it's possible (it's never been for me, anyway) fully to enjoy the receiving while you are simultaneously devoting your attention to the giving. I can't fully concentrate on both at the same time. I enjoy both elements of 69 very much, but prefer them one at a time. My general philosophy is make the woman orgasm first. I think it generally works out better that way for all involved. As a purely anatomical, practical matter, if the man comes first he's quickly losing one of his instruments for making the woman come. If the woman comes first it does not impair the man from getting his fulfillment. Unless she rolls over in bed and lights up a cigarette, I suppose.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with "pushing against."

As far as 69 is concerned, it's not my favorite. I don't think it's possible (it's never been for me, anyway) fully to enjoy the receiving while you are simultaneously devoting your attention to the giving. I can't fully concentrate on both at the same time. I enjoy both elements of 69 very much, but prefer them one at a time. My general philosophy is make the woman orgasm first. I think it generally works out better that way for all involved. As a purely anatomical, practical matter, if the man comes first he's quickly losing one of his instruments for making the woman come. If the woman comes first it does not impair the man from getting his fulfillment. Unless she rolls over in bed and lights up a cigarette, I suppose.

I’m a multi-tasker, hun .

Em

 

[SimonDoom]

I’m a multi-tasker, hun .

Em

There you go. I'm more of a one task at a time kind of guy.

 

[EmilyMiller]

There you go. I'm more of a one task at a time kind of guy.

Would be a boring world if we were all the same, right?

TBH I get your POV. If I want full on stimulation then him kneeling between my legs is more intense and focused. But I view 69s as one step up from kissing. Slow, sensuous, super-close, intimate, loving.

Also, I guess you can’t experience girl on girl 69s .

Em

 

[Martles]

One of the FIRST rules of writing is, write about what you KNOW...

Doesnt that make writing fantasy very difficult? Isn’t imagination the feedstock of creative writing? My limited output of erotic writing does include some direct experiences, but also imagined ones and contexts.

 

[djrip]

I suppose I'm pushing back against social expectations of jealousy and all the people who say 'that never works out' by writing about group relationships where everyone enjoys everyone and likes each other as friends as well as lovers and don't get jealous or give each other reason to feel jealous because they're always considerate of each other. On the other hand if I were really trying to make a point and not just fantasize I'd probably put more than one male character in the group relationship!

I also got an idea for a story yesterday called 'Cuck and Bull' about a sweet guy who is attracted to his dominant boss's wife and the boss calls him in and has him undress her and watch them go at it and says go ahead and blow him honey while they're doing it, and might end with something like 'why don't you come out to the lake with us this weekend joe?' So clearly on some level I have this idea bouncing around that's pushing against the whole humiliated cuck thing, or at least role reversing it.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Doesnt that make writing fantasy very difficult? Isn’t imagination the feedstock of creative writing? My limited output of erotic writing does include some direct experiences, but also imagined ones and contexts.

So I just wrote my second story featuring sex with a space octopus. It may surprise some readers to learn that this was not one of my quasi-biographical works.

But it’s still deeply infused by my experience - what I feel, what I’ve done, who I am. I’m still writing what I know, even in this rather extreme context.

Em

 

[djrip]

Also, I guess you can’t experience girl on girl 69s

No but I can write them! And dream...

 

[EmilyMiller]

No but I can write them! And dream...

Fair is fair. I’ll never had the chance to have a boy on boy 69. Though now I’m trying to recall if I wrote a Futanari one in Something Has Come Up. Sad that I can’t recall. There was, I remember, synchronized self-sucking (by request from one of the people I wrote it for).

Em

 

[djrip]

Fair is fair. I’ll never had the chance to have a boy on boy 69. Though now I’m trying to recall if I wrote a Futanari one in Something Has Come Up. Sad that I can’t recall. There was, I remember, synchronized self-sucking (by request from one of the people I wrote it for).

Em

A tentacle might have the length for that.

 

[EmilyMiller]

A tentacle might have the length for that.

Both my Futanari girls were petite and hung, so self-sucking was a piece of cake:

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Having washed the cum off of our bodies for a second time (and with a little of it added to our stomachs), we toweled and chatted.

"I could get used this best of both worlds anatomy. It opens up so many possibilities."

"I agree, Em. It's fun being a boy and girl at the same time. It's even more fun playing with you when you have a cock."

Jenna giggled.

"You know, Em, I had a bad idea. A really naughty idea."

"I love naughty ideas, Jenna. What is it?"

"Well you know that guys are meant to dream about sucking their own cocks?"

"Yes, I heard that."

"So you and I are not as big as most guys. I'm 5'5" and you're what, 5'2" or 5'3", right?"

"5'1" only", I corrected her.

"5'1". And our cocks are pretty long, aren't they?"

"Yours is delightfully long, angel."

"You are so sweet, Em. Yours is more that big enough for me. But anyway, I think we are both also pretty flexible. I wondered whether..."

"Shall we try? I want to try, Jenna."

We were both still semi-erect from our shower play. This conversation had us both starting to grow again. We moved back to the bedroom, our lady cocks starting to stick out in front of us and to sway as we walked. By the time we sat side by side on the edge of the bed, we were almost ready for our experiment. Taking each other's cock in our hands, a few minutes of pulling and stroking finished the job.

"Ready, Em?"

"Ready, Jenna."

My cock was bobbing invitingly close to my face. Jenna had pulled my foreskin back and the purple top looked good enough to eat. I am a connoisseur of cocks and this was one I really wanted to suck. I stretched my arms up, loosening my spine, gripped my cock in both hands and bent forward. It was easy, ridiculously so, my lips touched my tip without much exertion at all. I turned to see how Jenna was doing. She was doing fine, kissing the tip of her own cock, her tongue poking out to lick it. Catching my eye, she winked and opened her mouth, closing it around her glans with a slight slurp.

Fuck, that looked so hot. I parted my lips too and bent further forward. I could feel the warmth of my own breath on my cock. I closed my lips. I had gone down on my fuck-buddy so many times, the taste and feel of his cock were so familiar. But it was now my own cock I was sucking. I felt the thrill of it, of being engulfed, of a tongue caressing me. I had experienced all of these when Jenna had gone down on me earlier, but now I was in total control of what was happening. When something tingled, I did more of it, when I wanted more pressure, I pushed harder with my tongue. When I was ready, I started to bob my head up and down my shaft at exactly the right frequency and with exactly the right tension applied by my lips. Jenna had made me cum only minutes earlier in the shower and this had been my third male orgasm since waking. But now I felt the fourth building.

As best I could, I checked on Jenna. Her eyes were closed and she was totally absorbed in pleasuring herself. I saw she had one hand gripping her shaft and another between her legs. Of course, I had forgotten my pussy. I took Jenna's lead and slipped two fingers into my pussy, moving them in and out as I moved my mouth up and down on my cock. Oh my God, that's amazing. My cock began to throb in a way that I was learning to recognize. I sucked hard and fingered my pussy feverishly. I was losing control, my cock was on orgasm auto-pilot. It pulsed and twitched and throbbed until my sucking was too much and I shot streams of warm cum into my own mouth. I swallowed as eagerly as I had drunk any man's cum, knowing this was special, knowing it was my own cum.