Prayer in Schools

[desecration]

Some of our local bipartisans are trying to bring back the idea of prayer in school but without a specific religion. They have tried to come up with a neutral prayer:

He is life, He is death
He is virtue, He is vire

He is the flame of reason
He is the verbe of our thoughts

He is the justice of our trials
He is the gallows of the infidels

He is the fire of vengeance
He is the blade of revenge

He is the executioner's axe
He is the hangman's rope

He is the fall of the kingdom of ignorance
He is the end of the reign of intolerance

He is the torch of our hope
He is the reason of our existence

Do you think this is gonna work? Republicans fought for school prayer in the 1980s and lost because they were Christian prayers and many people think Christianity is an undiagnosed mental condition. However, this prayer allows any religion to participate.

 

[ll74]

Students are able to pray anytime they want.

There is no case to be made for teacher/school led prayer.

I would be fine with teacher/school led pledge of allegiance.

 

[SmokingFap]

Some of our local bipartisans are trying to bring back the idea of prayer in school but without a specific religion. They have tried to come up with a neutral prayer:


Do you think this is gonna work? Republicans fought for school prayer in the 1980s and lost because they were Christian prayers and many people think Christianity is an undiagnosed mental condition. However, this prayer allows any religion to participate.

What about atheists? Are they supposed to proclaim a faith in a supreme (male, of course) being that they don't have? Nope. No prayer in schools.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Some of our local bipartisans are trying to bring back the idea of prayer in school but without a specific religion. They have tried to come up with a neutral prayer:


Do you think this is gonna work? Republicans fought for school prayer in the 1980s and lost because they were Christian prayers and many people think Christianity is an undiagnosed mental condition. However, this prayer allows any religion to participate.

That’s a Christian prayer.

 

[desecration]

I would be fine with teacher/school led pledge of allegiance.

Allegiance to government may be more dangerous.

The American school children in the picture are showing their loyalty to our flag and country by giving the “Bellamy Salute” while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

[ll74]

Allegiance to government may be more dangerous.

It isn't about "danger".

 

[desecration]

That’s a Christian prayer.

I see nothing that marks it as such. Looks like generic religion.

 

[desecration]

It isn't about "danger".

We have to consider actions by their consequences.

 

[RoryN]

Let them do a lesson on science and the Bible side by side...then have to deal with a chorus of "show your work" and "prove your hypothesis!" re: the latter from a bunch of 5th graders.

 

[desecration]

Let them do a lesson on science and the Bible side by side...

Maybe we need to add a part about praying for science and scientists into the Universal Prayer quoted in the OP?

 

[RoryN]

Maybe we need to add a part about praying for science and scientists into the Universal Prayer quoted in the OP?

We already have prayer in schools. It's called the Pledge of Allegiance, and it was turned into one in 1954.

 

[desecration]

It's called the Pledge of Allegiance, and it was turned into one in 1954.

The "under God" part? Conservatives have been trying to use Christianity as a substitute for culture for a long time.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I see nothing that marks it as such. Looks like generic religion.

Many people think ALL religions are like Christianity. Islam kinda is, but even Judaism is very different. When you get to Hinduism or Buddhism the differences are more stark.

 

[wizzard426]

I pray at the casino

 

[UWERETHINKINGIT]

Bill Nye is my God. Can I pray to him in school?

 

[ll74]

We have to consider actions by their consequences.

Prayer in state run schools is different than pledge of allegiance in state run schools.

I support freedom of students to pray but not be led in prayer. Pride in our country is a point of civics.

 

[desecration]

Many people think ALL religions are like Christianity. Islam kinda is, but even Judaism is very different. When you get to Hinduism or Buddhism the differences are more stark.

Most religions have a god or concept of a centralized source of polytheistic gods. That's why this prayer works for more than Abrahamic (Christian, Jewish, Islamic) religions.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Most religions have a god or concept of a centralized source of polytheistic gods. That's why this prayer works for more than Abrahamic (Christian, Jewish, Islamic) religions.

It doesn’t work for Atheists.

 

[desecration]

It doesn’t work for Atheists.

Is Atheism a religion?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Is Atheism a religion?

The prayer would have to work for the religious and non religious.

 

[desecration]

The prayer would have to work for the religious and non religious.

They can easily make the god described into science or nature if they want. It's non-denominational.

 

[ll74]

They can easily make the god described into science or nature if they want. It's non-denominational.

A god isn't in science or nature.

 

[desecration]

A god isn't in science or nature.

It's a description of science, nature, and the metaphysical. There's more in common there than people think.

 

[ll74]

It's a description of science, nature, and the metaphysical. There's more in common there than people think.

Incorrect. There is not a god in nature or science.

People attribute events in nature and/or science to a god.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Most religions have a god or concept of a centralized source of polytheistic gods. That's why this prayer works for more than Abrahamic (Christian, Jewish, Islamic) religions.

The way the prayer portrays God is more in line with Christianity and Islam than Judaism, Hinduism, or Buddhism. It sounds like a Christian trying, and failing to be inclusive.