Possible underage violation

[RoyceConnors]

Keeping to the subject of the thread, he does not have to change a damn thing.

read the rule I posted.

Wow.

Just to appease your wounded ego, LC, I was including your posts as part of the suggestions given. He can leave it or change it according to his storyline. He was looking for guidance and he has all he needs now. His original paragraph has no mention of the act being done and therefore falls within the parameters. Should he write something else, he knows how far he can take it.

No offence to you at all, brother. All is good.

 

[Saxon_Hart]

I had a character meet his daughter that he fathered when he was underage. That sex was mentioned in passing and not described. As long as the under 18 sex is not described you should be OK.

 

[sr71plt]

Surprise. The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word. This seems hard for folks here to get their minds around. It's hit and miss on any possible breach of the rules being found. The OP was asking for a "best chance" assessment. The "best chance" advice is to pin it down before sending it the first time--and not even have to do a lot of messaging with Laurel on what will fly and what won't. If you're not just trying to fool the system, you aren't going to find it all that hard on what to do. If you are a risk taker and just gotta get the underage under the surface there somewhere, just go ahead and risk it. Sometimes it will get through.

Because, guess what? The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word.

 

[lovecraft68]

Just to appease your wounded ego, LC, I was including your posts as part of the suggestions given. He can leave it or change it according to his storyline. He was looking for guidance and he has all he needs now. His original paragraph has no mention of the act being done and therefore falls within the parameters. Should he write something else, he knows how far he can take it.

No offence to you at all, brother. All is good.

I feel better we're cool bro

I'm just saying that the rule backs up a couple of the posters as well as myself, that all is well as is.

This just demonstrates the paranoia this rule has inspired.

 

[LOAnnie2]

Surprise. The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word. This seems hard for folks here to get their minds around. It's hit and miss on any possible breach of the rules being found. The OP was asking for a "best chance" assessment. The "best chance" advice is to pin it down before sending it the first time--and not even have to do a lot of messaging with Laurel on what will fly and what won't. If you're not just trying to fool the system, you aren't going to find it all that hard on what to do. If you are a risk taker and just gotta get the underage under the surface there somewhere, just go ahead and risk it. Sometimes it will get through.

Because, guess what? The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word.

As long as he's not describing underage sex, all he would have to do is put a note in the submission box that all characters engaging in sex are 18+.

 

[RoyceConnors]

As far as acceptable, I posted a story where I clearly said the female in the story wasn't quite 18 yet and was raped brutally by numerous men and it passed. I said she was a season left to be 18, therefore skirting by unnoticed, I presume. Readers miss so much, so it depends on the writer's wording.

 

[sr71plt]

As long as he's not describing underage sex, all he would have to do is put a note in the submission box that all characters engaging in sex are 18+.

Ironically, that probably works a good part of the time even when it's a lie, because, surprise, the editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word.

 

[lovecraft68]

If you are a risk taker and just gotta get the underage under the surface there somewhere, just go ahead and risk it. Sometimes it will get through.

What "risk"?

A risk with underage would be actually putting in underage sex.

It is not a risk to say things along the lines of "The first time Kim and I had sex we were 15"


And stop acting like everyone who tries to give their characters a background is some kind of pedophile.

And don't think I haven't recalled your discussion with Dark and a couple of others about how to slip under age sex through when writing "period pieces"

I quoted the rule from the site which was set in place by the site. The OP's paragraph falls within the rule.

You're being an argumentative snot rag as always.

 

[lovecraft68]

Surprise. The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word. This seems hard for folks here to get their minds around. It's hit and miss on any possible breach of the rules being found. The OP was asking for a "best chance" assessment. The "best chance" advice is to pin it down before sending it the first time--and not even have to do a lot of messaging with Laurel on what will fly and what won't. If you're not just trying to fool the system, you aren't going to find it all that hard on what to do. If you are a risk taker and just gotta get the underage under the surface there somewhere, just go ahead and risk it. Sometimes it will get through.

Because, guess what? The editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word.

Ironically, that probably works a good part of the time even when it's a lie, because, surprise, the editor doesn't read 80 stories a day, every day of the year, word for word.

Someone slap Pilot, I think he's stuck.

 

[LOAnnie2]

Eh, if people feel the need to get underage sex through, just go to the site where it's okay. Sure, it won't get as many reads as it does on literotica, but still, why not just go where it's accepted instead of trying to skirt the rules?

 

[RoyceConnors]

What "risk"?

A risk with underage would be actually putting in underage sex.

It is not a risk to say things along the lines of "The first time Kim and I had sex we were 15"


And stop acting like everyone who tries to give their characters a background is some kind of pedophile.

And don't think I haven't recalled your discussion with Dark and a couple of others about how to slip under age sex through when writing "period pieces"

I quoted the rule from the site which was set in place by the site. The OP's paragraph falls within the rule.

You're being an argumentative snot rag as always.

I agree. There's a lot of life lived before the age of 18. It belongs in a character's background if it pertains to it. The action might have to start at 18and later, but echoing the past into the present is perfectly acceptable and helps flesh out the story better than anything.

 

[lovecraft68]

Eh, if people feel the need to get underage sex through, just go to the site where it's okay. Sure, it won't get as many reads as it does on literotica, but still, why not just go where it's accepted instead of trying to skirt the rules?

My theory is that some authors believe if they can get it through (actual under age sex) their story will do well.

Its like on amazon. They claim they do not accept incest stories, but when you find one on there it is selling like wild fire.

There is an author here that has quite the name for himself and its because he is very slick at having characters that he declares are 18 but...

They have "budding breasts" and stamp their feet and talk like young children I particularly get a kick out of the girl wearing a training bra (ostensibly to hold her budding breasts)

People are debating a fairly harmless line in the OP's example, but the clown I'm talking about is a top 25 or so author here and that is a good part of how he got there. Funny it never gets caught.

But then again, I think I may have heard somewhere something about the editor not reading every word of every....

 

[lovecraft68]

I agree. There's a lot of life lived before the age of 18. It belongs in a character's background if it pertains to it. The action might have to start at 18and later, but echoing the past into the present is perfectly acceptable and helps flesh out the story better than anything.

And the site does get trigger happy.

My only rejection here was a story in which the second paragraph started "I was sixteen and sitting on my bed."

No sex, nothing. He describes a nightmare he had and his sister comes in and they talk about it.

Got the boot.

 

[RoyceConnors]

And the site does get trigger happy.

My only rejection here was a story in which the second paragraph started "I was sixteen and sitting on my bed."

No sex, nothing. He describes a nightmare he had and his sister comes in and they talk about it.

Got the boot.

Like I was saying about the way a writer writes it. All smoke and mirrors and slight of hand. It's there, but you don't see it right away. I mean....80 stories a day, every day, it can get a bit wearing on the eyes to catch it, lol

 

[lovecraft68]

Like I was saying about the way a writer writes it. All smoke and mirrors and slight of hand. It's there, but you don't see it right away. I mean....80 stories a day, every day, it can get a bit wearing on the eyes to catch it, lol

80? Where did you hear that?

I think too, that was only my third or fourth story here. That may have made a difference as I did something similar a couple of times since with no trouble.

 

[1sickbastard]

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[LaRascasse]

I heard back from Laurel. She said it's fine as long as I don't give any further details.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I had another story rejected for underage sex where they were all high school seniors, but I specified that the youngest had just had his 18th birthday. I resubmitted without changing the text, but I added a disclaimer stating that all characters were over the age of 18 and that there were no sexual acts involving minors portrayed in the story. It went through with the disclaimer.

That was the last time I wrote about high school students.

just gotta roll with it, eh. the 18 rule is there for a reason, sometimes it stretches, sometimes it don't. makes first time stories a tad difficult - and i'm not suggesting rolling into dark waters here - but how many 'people' today are virgins at 18?

having said that, i was! and to my chagrin i'd even been involved in a [minor] war!

 

[soflabbwlvr]

just gotta roll with it, eh. the 18 rule is there for a reason, sometimes it stretches, sometimes it don't. makes first time stories a tad difficult - and i'm not suggesting rolling into dark waters here - but how many 'people' today are virgins at 18?

having said that, i was! and to my chagrin i'd even been involved in a [minor] war!

Yeah, that's an area I avoid. According to recent statistics from the Kinsey Institute, the average US male loses his virginity at 16.9 years, and the average female at 17.4. Some countries are even earlier, and a few are later. Like Incest and NonCon, this category has very little connection to reality.

I don't care to read or write stories that involve pedophilia. On the other hand, I was sexually active at an early age, and some of my adventures would be great story seeds. Unfortunately, they don't work if the age is adjusted upward to comply with the rules. The context is lost, and the tension is nearly destroyed. I'll just have to save them for reminiscing with old friends at class reunions.

 

[Tx Tall Tales]

I think it will pass. The notion that there can be no reference to sexual activity before age 18 is a myth. There can be no description of underage sexual activity, but the site does not presume all minors are virgins. A passing reference is allowed.

The following excerpt is from one of my stories on this site:



I sent a PM to Laurel before I submitted the story and included this language. I explained that it was necessary to establish the character's background, and that there were no depictions of underage sex in the rest of the story. (The character was 23 at the time of the conversation quoted above).

She wrote back approving the text and specifying that so long as there was no portrayal of underage sex, this language was acceptable.

The story went up, and is still up today.

True. Reference to underage sex is pretty common, as long as there's no description. Several of my stories do this with no problem. Let's face it, more than a third of kids lose their virginity before 18. We're just not allowed to make that the subject of the story. History yes, tittilation, no.