Possible underage violation

[LaRascasse]

I'm quoting a paragraph from a story I'm half-way through. Just let me know if it's likely to be rejected because of the underage rule.

“I've had this guitar for years now. When I was in high school, my dad hocked it for some money to get his next few bottles. I tracked down his friend, who was the new owner, and begged for it back,” reminisced Fiona. “He gave it to me only after I let him take my virginity. I've lost count of how many times I've traded in my body since. For rent, for food, for an audition... everything. My cunt is my only currency.”

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm quoting a paragraph from a story I'm half-way through. Just let me know if it's likely to be rejected because of the underage rule.

I think it will slide.

Sure if you're paying attention she was in high school when it happened and when you say lost her virginity the reader is assuming younger than senior.

But you're not stating an age. From what I have seen here reading other stories that will work. I've seen even more blatant, but if an age is not used it seems to fly.

Whereas "When I was 15, my dad hocked my guitar." will get you canned.

Now whether or not it is a violation and because there is no glaring number that is why it survives the sites speed read, I have no idea.

But I think it will get through as long as you leave it at that and don't keep beating it.

As for the story, I love drunk dads.

When I was nine all I wanted was a "Huffy" bike. My grandmother bought me one and the next week my father sold it to the guy down the street so he ould go get loaded.

My grandmother tried to buy it back, but the guy said his kid loved it and it wasn't his fault.

That little prick road by my house all the time flaunting it and one time my father even laughs and says, "Hey he looks pretty good on it."

Yeah, good times back in the day.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm quoting a paragraph from a story I'm half-way through. Just let me know if it's likely to be rejected because of the underage rule.

If there's no reference to age in this and Laurel sees it, I imagine it will be rejected. The sex could have started at 15 and been continuous after that in the context you give here.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I'm quoting a paragraph from a story I'm half-way through. Just let me know if it's likely to be rejected because of the underage rule.

Reads like a rejection. Any sexual activity by under-18s is not allowed. You need a line like, 2I was only just 18 when. . . " to clarify.

 

[RoyceConnors]

I'm quoting a paragraph from a story I'm half-way through. Just let me know if it's likely to be rejected because of the underage rule.

I would add, "My dad hocked my guitar just before I finished high school...", making reference to the probable age she was, without actually saying it. Maybe say she was saving her virginity for the right guy, but he was Mr. Right Now, so she could get her guitar back.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

put it in - no pun - as is. if it gets kicked, re-submit.

no big deal.

 

[sr71plt]

I'd put it in as Royce suggests, which is a very minor change, and resubmit with more of a change if it's rejected.

 

[lovecraft68]

Unless there is more to this that keeps referring to this I say just do it as is.

If its a one time passing reference made by someone "looking back" it'll pass.

If you were going to "flashback" or retell the situation in detail that would be different.

I think the bitter ramblings of an older character will get by.

 

[lovecraft68]

I would add, "My dad hocked my guitar just before I finished high school...", making reference to the probable age she was, without actually saying it. Maybe say she was saving her virginity for the right guy, but he was Mr. Right Now, so she could get her guitar back.

Even more of a red flag.

Keep it simple is he best way.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Even more of a red flag.

Keep it simple is he best way.

keep it simple, stupid.

 

[RoyceConnors]

Even more of a red flag.

Keep it simple is he best way.

Not really LC. The avg. age at the end of high school is 18, so no one would question it for underage reference. In the context it's given in, it reads as legal that way. Ambiguity would bring more scrutiny from Laurel to make sure. She accepts that as legal, as long as 'plausibility' is determined. 'Funny how the other thread played in here', lol.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Not really LC. The avg. age at the end of high school is 18, so no one would question it for underage reference. In the context it's given in, it reads as legal that way. Ambiguity would bring more scrutiny from Laurel to make sure. She accepts that as legal, as long as 'plausibility' is determined. 'Funny how the other thread played in here', lol.

you grant laurel a more omnipotent status than exists.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

I think it will pass. The notion that there can be no reference to sexual activity before age 18 is a myth. There can be no description of underage sexual activity, but the site does not presume all minors are virgins. A passing reference is allowed.

The following excerpt is from one of my stories on this site:

"The little slut lost her virginity at thirteen to some older white guy, around thirty-one or thirty-two, I think. Her parents found out and pressed charges. He went to jail. Two years later she got pregnant, this time with an even older white guy. A year later she got pregnant again. Yep, you guessed it, another older white guy. This whore had two kids before she even graduated from high school."

I sent a PM to Laurel before I submitted the story and included this language. I explained that it was necessary to establish the character's background, and that there were no depictions of underage sex in the rest of the story. (The character was 23 at the time of the conversation quoted above).

She wrote back approving the text and specifying that so long as there was no portrayal of underage sex, this language was acceptable.

The story went up, and is still up today.

 

[3113]

I would add, "My dad hocked my guitar just before I finished high school...", making reference to the probable age she was, without actually saying it. Maybe say she was saving her virginity for the right guy, but he was Mr. Right Now, so she could get her guitar back.

It's really not a problem either way. Lit recognizes that people have sex before 18, and you can refer to a character having lost their virginity prior to age 18. You can even have characters who were molested as children. What you can't do is give a detailed description of said character's fourteenth birthday when she gave some guy a blow job, her virginity and took it in the ass for a guitar.

What Lit wants to avoid isn't character depth and personality, but anything that could turn on a pedophile. So long as this is just a quick background reference, it passes muster and can stay.

Be aware, however, that it might get rejected or noted for such a mention--meaning the quick glance they give it sees that "high school" and it get's highlighted for that. So you may have to re-submit with a note so they take a closer look and agree that it's character background, not something salacious.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Actually, there is no description of the sex between the two. Only a mention that it occurred. For me that paragraph is about a titillating a getting hit in the nuts with a baseball.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not really LC. The avg. age at the end of high school is 18, so no one would question it for underage reference. In the context it's given in, it reads as legal that way. Ambiguity would bring more scrutiny from Laurel to make sure. She accepts that as legal, as long as 'plausibility' is determined. 'Funny how the other thread played in here', lol.

Maybe.

But in another thread it was discussed high school period screamed under age.

I don't think it does, but I would just leave it with as few words as possible.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think it will pass. The notion that there can be no reference to sexual activity before age 18 is a myth. There can be no description of underage sexual activity, but the site does not presume all minors are virgins. A passing reference is allowed.

Exactly.

To think "I had sex in High School" is going to pass as underage would mean two things.

One, a lot of stories here should be reported and removed and Two, with being that ridiculous I think a lot of people would start putting more work on other sites.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I think it will pass. The notion that there can be no reference to sexual activity before age 18 is a myth. There can be no description of underage sexual activity, but the site does not presume all minors are virgins. A passing reference is allowed.

The following excerpt is from one of my stories on this site:



I sent a PM to Laurel before I submitted the story and included this language. I explained that it was necessary to establish the character's background, and that there were no depictions of underage sex in the rest of the story. (The character was 23 at the time of the conversation quoted above).

She wrote back approving the text and specifying that so long as there was no portrayal of underage sex, this language was acceptable.

The story went up, and is still up today.

interesting. i got hit - years ago - for hinting at a character's sexual experience under 18. there was no direct ref to any act or mention of age other than her current age at 18.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

interesting. i got hit - years ago - for hinting at a character's sexual experience under 18. there was no direct ref to any act or mention of age other than her current age at 18.

I had another story rejected for underage sex where they were all high school seniors, but I specified that the youngest had just had his 18th birthday. I resubmitted without changing the text, but I added a disclaimer stating that all characters were over the age of 18 and that there were no sexual acts involving minors portrayed in the story. It went through with the disclaimer.

That was the last time I wrote about high school students.

 

[sr71plt]

In terms of keeping it simple and not being confused by yet another thread on this, you could make the simple change that Royce suggests (if you can't make that change,, then you should reassess whether it really IS important to you to suggest underage sexual activity) and not worry about it coming back unless it does--and even then a simple fix pinning it down more shouldn't break your arm.

 

[lovecraft68]

In terms of keeping it simple and not being confused by yet another thread on this, you could make the simple change that Royce suggests (if you can't make that change,, then you should reassess whether it really IS important to you to suggest underage sexual activity) and not worry about it coming back unless it does--and even then a simple fix pinning it down more shouldn't break your arm.

He doesn't have to make any changes, he is not describing the sex in any way shape or form.

From the sticky in the editors forum which can also be found in the submission FAQ

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=175666

Was there an underage (under 18 years old) sexual relationship in my story?

This is non-negotiable and has more to do with site policy than an unrealistic view that teenagers don't have sex. A character can refer sex at an early age (eg I lost my cherry at 14), but cannot describe it.

If your story comes across as pedophilia, it will probably be rejected.

Make sure that your characters are over 18 or at least a senior in high school to fix the problem.

Check out the part in bold and they even use an age (which personally I wouldn't)

Bottom line?

case closed as the answer is straight from the sites rules.

Also note high school is okay granted you mention senior which refutes another of your ideas you were trying to push off on people that high school is a no no that will get you rejected.

 

[RoyceConnors]

Keeping to the subject of the thread, LaRas was looking for parameters he could write in and not have to edit for content later. The suggestions given, should be adequate for him to decide his story's fate.

 

[lovecraft68]

Keeping to the subject of the thread, LaRas was looking for parameters he could write in and not have to edit for content later. The suggestions given, should be adequate for him to decide his story's fate.

Keeping to the subject of the thread, he does not have to change a damn thing.

read the rule I posted.

Wow.

 

[robertreams]

I had a character in one story tell another character that he was raped when he was 16, that passed. In another story, a character referred to "explorations in a scout tent at age 11" ,that passed.

 

[LOAnnie2]

LC is right. The paragraph quoted only mentions when the character was in high school she traded her virginity for a guitar--no details of the act, and obviously unless the rest of the story portrays her as a high school dropout who hasn't reached 18 yet, any sex in the story obviously takes place after 18.

There's a huge difference between the perception of minors not engaging in sex, and describing minors engaging in sex.