Possible new neighbors

[SeaCat]

Cat, how about mounting a BIG old camcorder doesn't even have to work- you can probably get one from Salvation Army for ten bucks on the side facing that trailor? Add a blinking red light to it, make it very conspicuous. And a sign "WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL POLICE" right under it.

Can you file a complaint with your Park office about these people? Would your other neighbors back you up?

Could they be evicted opnce they'd moved in?
Really, it's Mrs Cat that I am concerned for. I think she deserves some serenity in her home, after all you guys have been through!

Stella,

I am not sure what can be done or even if anything needs to be done. As of this evening we haven't had to deal with them again, although we have seen them and the results of their latest visit. (A pile of debris in front of their trailer including but not limited to Fast Food Wrappers, Plywood, Cardboard and sheets of Plastic.)

Of one thing I am sure, they have not had access to either our place, our Patio or our Shed. (Which has in it our Washer and Dryer.) All three were locked, a habit from the last couple of places we've lived, and show no signs of forced entry. (Yes I do have a padlock on the shed.)

As of their moving in. They do not yet have the formal acceptance of the Park, and without that they can not legally move in. (Hell legally they are not supposed to be entering the trailer right now.) Until they are accepted they can not pay the full amount of money owed on the trailer, just a deposite to hold it. Until they can pay the full amount they are not the legal owners of the trailer and can be charged not just with Trespass but with Breaking and Entering.

Can something be done about them after they have been accepted into the park and she has moved in? That depends on what she does and how well it is documented. If she breaks the rules too often then she can be asked to leave the community. Documentation is the key to this. (Some of their infractions have already been documented.)

As for how Mrs. Cat is dealing with this. Right now she views it as I do, more of a source of humor than a source of consternation or problems. This of course can rapidly change. I like you wish this to have a nice quiet ending. My wife and I would like a couple of months at least in which we can just sit back and relax for a change.

Naturally we do have options in how this potential problem is dealt with. I am already looking at several different small and relatively inexpensive security cameras that can be set up outside of our place. (One of these is a relatively small low light capable camera with a wireless linkage to a VCR.) We always have the Police to fall back on if things start getting out of hand. (ie. parties when she is moved in and celebrating her newfound freedom.) I am also thinking about having my wife creat a small wooden sign, (She has a neat hand with a Router.) proclaiming our support of the Castle Doctrine. (A relatively new law here in Florida, and one which was debated at length here on the board.)

As I said though all we hope for is for it to be nice and quiet here. If she does move in and is a quiet, polite neighbor, (something I doubt she is capable of,) then I will have absolutely no problems with her living there.

Cat

 

[Stella_Omega]

A snapshot of the debris they've already left would be a good thing to send to the park Office...

You might get the impression that I would be bat-shit at this invasion of the yahoos- I don't know where you get so much tolerance from!

 

[SeaCat]

A snapshot of the debris they've already left would be a good thing to send to the park Office...

You might get the impression that I would be bat-shit at this invasion of the yahoos- I don't know where you get so much tolerance from!

Oh pictures of their debris field have already been taken. Not to mention pictures of each of them entering and exiting the trailer.

As for my tolerance for something like this. I have I suppose a rather unique outlook on life and things like this. I prefer to live and let live, even as I watch and see and document. In something like this I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt. (At one time I didn't feel and believe this way. At one time I would have been out there chasing them away, but I like to think I have amtured beyond that knee jerk reaction point.) However being the realist that I am, I do watch and see. I do document and observe. That way, if they do finally manage to irritate me to the point where I feel I must act I have the resources to act.

There are few things that irritate me right off the bat. Many of these are just plain common sense and have been well documented here. (Things like Rape, Spousal or Child Abuse, Wanton violence and/or destruction of private property.) (We won't get into the things that irritate me in the workplace. )

Cat

 

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[SeaCat]

Hey!!! Do they look familiar?

http://warcrafty.com/spiff/AnotherAwesomeThread.jpg

Add a couple of hundred pounds and drop a few IQ Points and you have it dead center.

Someone's Gene Pool does not have a deep end.

Cat

 

[Tom Collins]

The Gene Pool needs a bit more Chlorine.

Cat

Never mind the chlorine, man...it's gone way past that stage. It's time to pull out the big guns...Draino. The filter is obviously clogged and needs to be cleaned.

 

[JRaven]

Well, Cat...
At first I was going to take you to task about the Buford being regional, but Jammies already did that. And she's right about Checkers and Rallys being the same restaurant. For everybody else, go to www.checkers.com to find the best fries in the US. I usually go for the Rallyburger w/cheese, a Buford is a bit much for me.

I'm thinking...
Can you squeeze in under the skirt of the trailer? A few well placed spikes should do the trick. You wouldn't need many. Put them about three feet apart and you'd still be garunteed a kill when they finally do go through the floor.

Jenny

 

[SeaCat]

Okay, an update from the land of dreams and screams.

After two days of peace and quiet the Clmapet Clan showed back up in full force. To say they are not happy with the Cat and his wife would be an understatement. (Is this a surprise?)

My wife and I got up today at the lovely hour of six in the morning. (Hey so we slept in for an hour, it's our day off.) We were outside doing yardwork by seven and making an appreciable dent in the overgrowth and dead Pine Needles surrounding our place when who should show up but the Clampets.

I had already finished cutting back the weeds and assorted vines from around the north side of the trailer and after having bagged them up had started raking my section of the yard on that side. I was almost finished when they showed up. Of course Pappa Bear sees me working up a nice sweat and at first comments on my being shirtless then asks why I hadn't done all of the yard. (Duh) I didn't bother to comment on my not wearing a shirt but I did comment that I had raked from the border line between the two trailers to my trailer. He wasn't happy.

Several hours later as I was working in 93°F heat and high humidity Momma Bear approaches my wife and tells her that when she's done with our laundrey she's going to do their laundry. My wife calmly informs her that there are rather cheap pay washers and dryers behind the office that she is free to use. Oh Momma Bear doesn't like this and informs my wife that until they get the washer and dryer up and running in their daughters place they will be using ours. (When my wife finished our laundry she closed the shed doors and locked them. )

Pappa Bear shows up a little later and after complaining to me about the locked shed tells me he needs to know how to turn on the water to the hose I have running from under the trailer. When I ask him why he informs me in his most imposing squeek that they need water to water their lawn, (In the middle of the day no less,) and since the irrigation hook up was destroyed, (by him) he needs to find another way to do the watering. His idea was to use my hose and sprinkler, as well as my water to water his daughters lawn. When I asked him why he didn't use the water from "His Daughters" trailer he made the comment that she would have to pay for it. Well the hose was rolled up and locked inside the shed.

Oh and somehow they expected my wife and I to share our lunch with them because they were working so hard. That didn't fly very well as they found that our patio door was locked. (They also commented on our lending them our gas grill for the evening. Yeah right........)

About 1400 this afternoon I had a visit from one of the people in the front office of the park. They were laughing as they handed me a letter written by Pappa Bear complaining of my not being helpful or neighborly. He had even itemised it. (Including my being dressed lewdly in a pair of shorts, sandles and no shirt where his daughter could see me.) I commented to the park manager that these people were becoming a slight nuisance and she replied that she had sent several letters already to their main office about these people in the hopes that they would not be accepted to the park. I gave her a disc of pictures I had taken of them working around the place as well as of the damage they had created. (Oops I think there are a couple of pictures in there of the daughter walking about stuffing her face while wearing Micro Shorts and a Bikini Top, and no I will not post them here!!!)

Oh life is getting amusing.

Cat

 

[wazhazhe]

It's damn near impossible to find entertainment like that.

 

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[SeaCat]

Got home from work today. All was quiet, no car in the parking area of the place behind us and the slider was closed. It's been a tough day in work dealing with patients who think that they are there to be catered to and not healed. We breath a sigh of relief.

About 1800 we go out onto the patio, it's failry cool and comfortable with the temp only being 83°F and the humidity down to 75%. I fire up the grill and start to make some short ribs. Within minutes here comes Daughter Clampet, her nose in the air following the scent of food.

She tries the door and finding it unlocked walks in and makes herself comfortable in one of our chairs while eyeing the grill. She keeps stuffing her face with junkfood she unloads from her bag, while dropping the wrappers on the floor. She comments on my wifes mode of dress, telling her it is improper, (my wife is wearing a pair of shorts and a "Hooters" T-Shirt.) She points at my Cigar and tells me she doesn't approve and wants me to stop smoking them. (WTF?)

When the ribs are done I pull them off the grill, pile them on a plate and carry them inside. She looks at me and asks where hers are. I inform her that hers are in the store, right where I bought these. She then informs me that her parents, who just happen to be police officers told her that she could come over and eat at our place whenever she wanted to. I informed her that she needed to tell her parents they might want to talk with me about this, and that at the very least I would expect them to pay for the food she ate as well as the cleaning services to clean up her trash. She left in a huff. Somehow I expect to hear from her parents tomorrow.

Oh and Poppa Bear is not a Sherriffs Deputy, he is an Auxilary. (I found this out through one of my friends on the department.)

I can't imagine the gall of people who feel the way these people do. (Oh go over to their place, they'll feed you.)

Somehow I think the humor will come fast and furious when she moves in full time, if she does. (If she walks out in front of her place in a bikini I'll have to call the Health Department.)

Cat

 

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[Stella_Omega]

Cat, I wish you would stop calling them Momma Bear, Poppa Bear.. it's an insult to bears.

But don't call them Momma Pig Poppa Pig either, it would be an insult to pigs!

In fact, I don't know what you could call these creatures!

 

[rgraham666]

Cat, I wish you would stop calling them Momma Bear, Poppa Bear.. it's an insult to bears.

But don't call them Momma Pig Poppa Pig either, it would be an insult to pigs!

In fact, I don't know what you could call these creatures!

I do. Human.

Damn Cat. Why are the Fates so cruel to the good?

 

[Huckleman2000]

Cat, darlin', are you having us on? I'm sitting here reading this and thinking these people cannot be real.

And just in case, to you and Mrs. Cat for being such class acts.

Oh, and we learned today to keep the doors locked every single minute, didn't we?

I'm with you, Jammies.
Cat spins a good yarn, and this just seems beyond the pale!
Just in case, though...
What in the hell do you suppose makes these people think they are entitled to take advantage of their neighbors like that?
Do they think that being related to law enforcement, the heightened attention to the area is worth a daily tribute to that degree? I mean, I've heard of neighbors being glad they live on the same block as a policeman (since that street gets plowed early after the snowstorm), but I've never heard of officers expecting free food from their neighbors. You'd think they'd have a bit of professional integrity, or at least the good sense to mask their corruption.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I do. Human.

Damn Cat. Why are the Fates so cruel to the good?

that's not any human I know- at least, not personally

 

[Zayrina]

This would make one hell of a sit com.

The only annoying things my neighbors do is burn stuff, and invariably the wind comes from that direction, depending upon which neighbor is burning, and there is a little girl 2 houses over behind us who screams at a pitch that could shatter glass when she is playing. I am counting my blessings after hearing your tale.

I do find the story hard to believe, however I do know people can be quite impossible. A week or so ago my SO went fishing in the community park. He had been doing so for about 30 minutes when a woman, about 25 and her boys, maybe 7 and 8 came up. The boys began throwing rocks, not simply in the water, but at my SO's bobber. SO is a bear of a man, 350 lbs buried under a bunch of hair, but he is as non-confrontational and gentle as a man can be. He turn around and said to the woman, "I am fishing here", to which she responded, "oh, don't worry, you're not bothering my boys."

He left, and I guess it is just as well that I was not along, because I, a large aggressive woman capable of frightening people with a look, would have leaned towards her, and said in a low tone, "Look Cunt, if you don't want to wind up fising your ass off the bottom of this pond I suggest that you get control of your spawn."


You have more patience than I do, because I would have told them to get their asses out of my yard and keep them off after the first event.

 

[SeaCat]

LOLOLOLOL

Oh these people are real, too real. I honestly wish I was making this up. (I'm still looking for the sign or tattoo that asks people to come and act like idiots around me, I haven't found it yet though.)

As for why they act like this, not being inside their minds I can't say for certain but I do have some ideas. For some people the idea of being a Law Enforcement Officer is a dream come true. They are able to dominate others in an entirely legal and publicly acceptable manner. Sometimes these people feel that because they can control others while they are working, they can control others while they are not working. They use the threat of being a Police Officer, and the threat of possible repurcussions, to get others to do what they want. Often their children get caught up in this. I believe that what I am dealing with now is related to this mindset.

Mother and Father both having had or are currently serving the community in a Law Enforcement capacity feel that others owe them. Their daughters have grown up around this feeling and are used to it. They feel that they can do and say almost anything they wish with impunity because their parents can protect them. It's unfortunate that this happens but it does, and much more often than people would like to believe.

Cat

 

[Stella_Omega]

I read your first post to my family- they reacted with horror and amazement.
last night, I asked them if they wanted to read the next installments- they begged me please no.

 

[SeaCat]

I read your first post to my family- they reacted with horror and amazement.
last night, I asked them if they wanted to read the next installments- they begged me please no.

LOLOLOL

And people wonder if I make this up.

You only have to look in the papers and talk with your friends about their neighbors to know this type of thing happens.

Today was quiet, we only saw the daughter once as she waddled out to climb into her car and drive away.

We have, as I mentioned talked to the managment of the park about them. We have documented our complaints and will continue to do so. Thankfully we know that at least some of our neighbors are doing the same. (We aren't the only ones who have to deal with these people.)

We shall see what happens, and hope that I am not too disgusted by it.

Cat

 

[Zayrina]

Do keep us informed, please. It is absolutely amazing.

 

[Tom Collins]

Just shoot 'em, Cat.

Justifyable homicide.

Chalk it ip to DSAF.

No jury in the world would convict you.

Hell they give rednecks a bad name.

Oh, please...they can't pin a murder rap on you for putting down a rabbid animal.

 

[Tom Collins]

Cat, I wish you would stop calling them Momma Bear, Poppa Bear.. it's an insult to bears.

But don't call them Momma Pig Poppa Pig either, it would be an insult to pigs!

In fact, I don't know what you could call these creatures!

Mamma and Pappa Ick, and the little (realativly speaking) Icks.