Poorly received short story

[Bubo_bubo]

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To quote the Bardess:

“I’m not so innocent”

Is the Bardess Britney?

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

Is the Bardess Britney?

Only she is truly meritorious of the epithet.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

Only she is truly meritorious of the epithet.

Well on that we have to agree to strenuously disagree.

ETA: not that I dislike Britney, but I think that there's a host of female artists out there as good if not better.

 

[lovecraft68]

Preface this by saying no one is an expert in anything here as far as what affects what and how because there's so many variables with readers and sub categories.

But I'm going to confidently state that this story is not doing well because first, I do know from experience that BDSM does not mix well in taboo. Second this is father daughter and to me flirts with non con enough to set people off.

There is a double standard in incest. Mom/sis can get away with some rough or dicey stuff with a son/brother. But a father getting rough with the daughter, regardless of how written and intent, will be seen as being very rapey and remind the I/T crowd that in real life incest is often abuse.

In real life there are far more fathers that have sexually molested, assaulted their daughters than mothers have their sons. This is why a lot of authors in dad/daughter stories tend to make the daughter the aggressor and come on to the father, to dodge that angle.

Not saying you deserve it, but you're getting a lot of knee jerk votes.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I appreciate your careful analysis.

In my ideas for her future, Emily has moved state to start a new job and is less dependent on her father. But this was amicable with David supporting her decision.

Emily is not always a reliable narrator and many of the things she blames on daddy’s twisted mind were actually ideas of her own.

To quote the Bardess:

“I’m not so innocent”

I can be difficult to have a "through-put," if that is the correct term, on a longer, multi-part story. The recommendations here are to have the goal worked out ahead of time. Sometimes I don't have the patience for that and I just start out, sometimes to my later regret.

I think most of my narrators have been fairly reliable. The one time I tried otherwise, I never published or even quite finished it. What that guy was coming up with was just too implausible. That's different from what is admitted to being a fantasy by the narrator.

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

Well on that we have to agree to strenuously disagree.

ETA: not that I dislike Britney, but I think that there's a host of female artists out there as good if not better.

I may not have been 100% serious in what I wrote.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Do you not know I am a woman? When I think, I must speak. Bill Fucking Shacking-Spear from fucking merry, old, old England.

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

Do you not know I am a woman? When I think, I must speak. Bill Fucking Shacking-Spear from fucking merry, old, old England.

I always preferred Beatrice from Much Ado
About Nothing. More than a match for all the men and his most realised female character.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

I may not have been 100% serious in what I wrote.

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[MillieDynamite]

That one just came to me. I haven't dug into Willy in the past six months. I should spend some quality with Macbeth, Hamlet, Porsha, May chance dilly-dally with Julius, Brutus, and Mark until the ides of march approaches. I could use a loan from Shylock, because I do need to lose a bit of weight. Or go sailing with Captain Adams.

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

That one just came to me. I haven't dug into Willy in the past six months. I should spend some quality with Macbeth, Hamlet, Porsha, May chance dilly-dally with Julius, Brutus, and Mark until the ides of march approaches. I could use a loan from Shylock, because I do need to lose a bit of weight. Or go sailing with Captain Adams.

 

[Lovecraft_Lore]

Yeah, you added non-con into an incest story. I currently have a 2.89 on my incest story in part by adding a gay, non con into a mother son incest story. That crowd hates that kind of thing.

You could also having a loving wife story where the cheating wife kills the husband, no matter the plot or how well written at that point you will get endless crazy hate.

 

[NikkiSparrow]

Yeah, you added non-con into an incest story. I currently have a 2.89 on my incest story in part by adding a gay, non con into a mother son incest story. That crowd hates that kind of thing.

You could also having a loving wife story where the cheating wife kills the husband, no matter the plot or how well written at that point you will get endless crazy hate.

As a newcomer to this site, this kind of post is fascinating to me.

I picture writers in white coats with mad-scientist hair, mixing dangerously colored chemicals in glass beakers, laughing maniacally at the concoction they think they're creating. "If I mix this incest into this gay, and add a pinch of loving wife... and just the right amount of non-human... AH-HAHAHAHAHAAAAA"

 

[Bubo_bubo]

As a newcomer to this site, this kind of post is fascinating to me.

I picture writers in white coats with mad-scientist hair, mixing dangerously colored chemicals in glass beakers, laughing maniacally at the concoction they think they're creating. "If I mix this incest into this gay, and add a pinch of loving wife... and just the right amount of non-human... AH-HAHAHAHAHAAAAA"

Hear me out. Scene: husband is licking the bull's sperm out of his wife's pussy, while the bull is buttfucking him. But not only is the bull the husband's long-lost half-brother, but he's also actually a minotaur.

 

[Voboy]

Hear me out. Scene: husband is licking the bull's sperm out of his wife's pussy, while the bull is buttfucking him. But not only is the bull the husband's long-lost half-brother, but he's also actually a minotaur.

Goddamn it.

Now I have to start over on my Christmas story. You just guessed the whole plot.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I'm not going to read your story (NMK), but your reply in Post #3 brought something up... did your characters not cum in this story?

That alone is going to be enough to piss off many readers. I think that's the first rule of posting here: include an orgasm in everything you post, unless it's in Non-Erotic. And unless it's a 750-worder, sometimes.

If that's what you did, it's a mistake. I'd pull and repost with the rest appended if it's going to continue bothering you.

Sorry, I just noticed this. Every story or chapter in a series does not have to have somebody having an orgasm in it. I know I've had some like that and they got decent scores. True, it's more likely to happen in a stand-alone story than a chapter.

Sometimes I wonder where my followers are. I don't have that many of them (I think it's 108 after four years) but the vast majority of them seem to rarely vote or comment. It can be difficult to get more than ten votes. Three or so has happened to me at times.

 

[Lovecraft_Lore]

Hear me out. Scene: husband is licking the bull's sperm out of his wife's pussy, while the bull is buttfucking him. But not only is the bull the husband's long-lost half-brother, but he's also actually a minotaur.

I have found that nearly all the readers hate it when I have a minotaur as a background character. The minotaur needs to be the main character or not there at all.

Were-wolves are the same. If you have nothing else in the story be supernatural, the roommate just happens to be a werewolf. Just a single line about how the roommate is gone for the weekend because he is a werewolf and the full moon is this weekend. It confuses the hell out of the readers.


Twice now I have tried to write a short story about the person who lives next door to the werewolf pack. All the werewolves are high fiving each other, having saved the world from the snake people. Things on fire in the street, dead snake people everywhere their god-king ripped apart. The neighbor is arguing with his wife, whether they should call the cops or not, because this is the third time there are all these maimed dead bodies laying out in the street. No one wants to be racist but those fucking werewolves are lowing the property values, why can't they move to some other neighborhood.

 

[KeithD]

The story's only been up a day and it's moving up in rating. You may just have done the "oh woe is me" thing too early based on too few votes.

 

[ruddygore]

I have found that nearly all the readers hate it when I have a minotaur as a background character. The minotaur needs to be the main character or not there at all.

Were-wolves are the same. If you have nothing else in the story be supernatural, the roommate just happens to be a werewolf. Just a single line about how the roommate is gone for the weekend because he is a werewolf and the full moon is this weekend. It confuses the hell out of the readers.


Twice now I have tried to write a short story about the person who lives next door to the werewolf pack. All the werewolves are high fiving each other, having saved the world from the snake people. Things on fire in the street, dead snake people everywhere their god-king ripped apart. The neighbor is arguing with his wife, whether they should call the cops or not, because this is the third time there are all these maimed dead bodies laying out in the street. No one wants to be racist but those fucking werewolves are lowing the property values, why can't they move to some other neighborhood.

If you're able to get it written, I like the premise. A slightly different take on werewolves.

 

[Comshaw]

DaddyAnal1966, I like the story a great deal. I'll have to go back and vote on it. I had to take care of my baby and my cat turned off the computer while I was gone.

Yours does that too? We have two little black PITA's that like to sleep on top of my computer. The on-off button is up there on top. Every once in a while they will get a paw just right and "blink" there goes my computer. I finally had to tape a piece of cardboard over the on-off button to stop them from destroying my work.

I swear those two were inflicted on me by the devil. They have yellow eyes, but their eyes range from a yellow-green to an orange color. When they are yellow-green they are sweet little kittens. When they are orange they are the incarnation of evil, gremlins come to life, PITAs of the first order.


Comshaw

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yours does that too? We have two little black PITA's that like to sleep on top of my computer. The on-off button is up there on top. Every once in a while they will get a paw just right and "blink" there goes my computer. I finally had to tape a piece of cardboard over the on-off button to stop them from destroying my work.

I swear those two were inflicted on me by the devil. They have yellow eyes, but their eyes range from a yellow-green to an orange color. When they are yellow-green they are sweet little kittens. When they are orange they are the incarnation of evil, gremlins come to life, PITAs of the first order.


Comshaw

She steps on the UPS off/on switch. I'm pretty certain she does it on purpose. Kat is a strange cat for sure.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

I didn't read all the replies, so sorry if someone else already said this.

I write for myself and actually don't give a fuck if others like my stories.

I think it was Stephen King who said "I write what I like and if the readers like it and I make a buck great, if not at least I had fun."

I also make YouTube videos and that has thickened my skin, troll comments are more prevalent and harsh there than here.

 

[Limnophile]

Unless eating or not is determined by your story scores, quit worrying about the numbers so much. The first time I truly felt joy in writing I was editing a humor story I'd written. When re-reading one of my stories puts a smile on my face, that's all the reward I need.

If you're down in the dumps, try comedy for a change of pace. Imagine an absurd situation and base a funny short story on it. It doesn't need to be long or take much time. Examples -
https://literotica.com/s/bimbo-drive 1600 words
https://www.literotica.com/s/lovebots-at-griswold-station 784 words

 

[alohadave]

Thanks. Very true I think. I got a lot of 1s at the beginning (when it’s easy to do the arithmetic as to what the individual votes are).

I made the mistake of having one story that was mostly lesbian sex, but some incest at the end in the Lesbian category. Now I tend to just put everything in Incest / Taboo, though perhaps there are more obvious homes for this story elsewhere.

And we need a category of Incest / BDSM / Fetish / Poor Writing. I would own that category.

DA66

I know a lot of people inhabit the categories they like, but I use it as a guide to the main subject matter.

Every story is unique, most could fit into multiple categories quite easily.

It'd be great if a story could be in more than one category. Barring that, seeing tags on the lists pages might help people sort out things that they want or don't want to see. It's odd to me coming from other sites where you never see tags until you've clicked on the story.