Poll: Stay or Leave ?

[hugo_sam]

I have read at least some of the things that have been posted (here and elsewhere online) about me personally.

I do not want to argue with anyone about any thing.

There are at least three ‘sides’ to any story: The two opposite sides and the truth. Often the three sides have only a little common meeting ground.

It’s not necessary for anyone to post or comment, that is not what I am asking.
Hugo

 

[arienette]

You better not leave, I'll kill you and feed you to the other bears.

 

[Stella_Omega]

What the fuuuuck?
Me, I vote you stay. I haven't been around much either, so I don't know what talk you are talking about.
But I have never ever known you to be anything but supportive, kind, and generous.

 

[neonlyte]

This a joke Hugo?

Not funny.

No Go!

I've never known you have less than a good word to say about anyone.

 

[Huckleman2000]

I don't mean to be insensitive, but I do think it's your decision to make. I have no idea what may have led you to think that you might not be welcome or that you might have offended anyone. But I do think that those shouldn't be the criteria for deciding whether to stay or not.

I mean, Amicus keeps posting. And, truth be told, I suspect it wouldn't be quite the same joint without him. His pointed arguments, as full of crap as they often are, do serve to sharpen those who wish to counter him. [and don't tell anyone, but once in awhile he makes me rethink things that I think I believe. I don't always change my mind, but it's still a useful exercise to go through from time to time. ]

My experience has been that this is an exceptionally tolerant and supportive forum. There are times when one or another goes off on a tangent, myself not least among those. Particularly, given my post total. It's true, sometimes I think I post something really brilliant and provacative, and it's either ignored or a thread-killa. Often, threads will drift off into provacative discourse of another kink <- freudian keyboard error, I meant to say 'kind'.

All in all, though, I've never felt compelled to leave. I mean, it's a forum of [largely] amateur porn writers! I don't mean that derogatory - I mean that to say that first, people value written expression here; and second, they are inclined to have open minds. And third, there's a lack of pretension that's refreshing in a forum which welcomes such a wide range of political and social outlooks.

I think everyone just agrees that we're all horny, and a bit perverted deep down, so why get too upset?

 

[impressive]

It's a public place, and the decision is yours. You've been nothing but kind to me, but if the things alleged are true (and I've no reason to doubt they are, given the credible sources), you've certainly got an uphill climb.

It is my hope that you are able to reconcile your public and private personas. The disparity alleged is quite unnerving -- especially in a forum such as this, where trust is a precious commodity.

Regardless of your decision, I wish you well.

 

[Recidiva]

Hugo, you've been nothing but kind, funny and supportive.

I understand if you need some space and time away (I've disappeared for a few months at a time) but please don't make that decision based on other people's response or failure to respond.

You're an asset to the boards and you'd be missed.

Come and go as you please, but know that many people are pleased to have you here.

 

[Liar]

Huh? Never seen you do anything offensive whatsoever. If fact, that's the only anoying thing about you, you're too damn nice all the time.

Do what YOU want to. Not what others want you to.

But I say what I've said before: This is not a place. It's a medium to connect with a collection of people. Some of them are my friends. If others are my enemies is irrelevant. I can choose to ignore them. By leaving, I'd distance myself from my friends. And why would I want to do that?

 

[carsonshepherd]

I don't know what you're referring to, because I don't read most of the threads anymore, but I wouldn't worry about what other people say. Do what you want.

And learn the wonders of the "ignore" button.

 

[Guest]

It's a public place, and the decision is yours. You've been nothing but kind to me, but if the things alleged are true (and I've no reason to doubt they are, given the credible sources), you've certainly got an uphill climb.

It is my hope that you are able to reconcile your public and private personas. The disparity alleged is quite unnerving -- especially in a forum such as this, where trust is a precious commodity.

Regardless of your decision, I wish you well.

Wow, am I out of the loop.

Hugo - you have been kind to me and I don't really know anything about any of this.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

You've never been anythingother than a sweety to me. I hope you'll stay.

 

[neonlyte]

Wow, am I out of the loop.

Hugo - you have been kind to me and I don't really know anything about any of this.

Got me curious too.

Did you fix your 'puter sssarah?

 

[Guest]

Hello All

I had just stopped in to ‘catch up’ on some of the threads, as I have already reduced my time spent on the threads, trying to do other things.

I have read at least some of the things that have been posted (here and elsewhere online) about me personally. I do not want to argue with anyone about any thing. There are at least three ‘sides’ to any story: The two opposite sides and the truth. Often the three sides have only a little common meeting ground.

While not debating or engaging in anything like it, I would also like make this a:

Public apology to anyone and everyone that I have angered, slighted, offended, upset, pissed off, or threatened in any way. It has never been my intention with anyone. I am sorry for and to anyone I have wronged in any way.

I have only sought fellowship, companionship, and camaraderie: Just have a fun time with the folks here.

I would prefer to remain a participant in the threads as I enjoy the company and friendships, unless the majority consensus is that I am unwelcome. I don’t want to force my presence on anyone.

This may not be the best method, but it is what I can think of for getting a consensus. It’s not necessary for anyone to post or comment, that is not what I am asking. This is just a simple poll vote for voting.

Thank you for reading this and voting.

Hugo

If you've managed, with your generous ways and kindness, do to any of that, Hugo, I must be avoiding the right threads.

I've found that it is always possible to piss off someone by not agreeing with them. Some can't tolerate it. Some just don't know that you can ignore things and get on. Some really feel these electronic forums are life n death.

If you go, you will be missed. If you stay, some will enjoy you and others will be irritated. The nice part is you don't have to notice the ones who are irritated if you don't want to.

 

[Guest]

Got me curious too.

Did you fix your 'puter sssarah?

Not yet - Salvor has some suggestions (I wasn't too certain if the butt-sex suggestions would work, but hey!) We're still working on it.



Hugo - I must say that now I do know a great deal more about this. For complete honestly on your part, don't you think you should have provided links to the blogs where the other parties have posted their sides of this situation?

For those of us not "in the know" you are presenting a far different picture than what I've just read.

 

[rgraham666]

The decision is entirely yours, hugo.

But you've never been anything other than polite and kind to me.

 

[AppleBiter]

Hugo - I must say that now I do know a great deal more about this. For complete honestly on your part, don't you think you should have provided links to the blogs where the other parties have posted their sides of this situation?

For those of us not "in the know" you are presenting a far different picture than what I've just read.

I agree completely. I think that if you're asking people "should I stay or should I go," based on events which have transpired between yourself and two other posters, it only seems fair to provide the people with access to both sides of the story, so that they may have a more accurate representation of what is going on here. I don't think it's fair to assume that others have read the thread: "Be Brave . . Post a Journal Entry" to which you're referring.

 

[neonlyte]

Hugo - I must say that now I do know a great deal more about this. For complete honestly on your part, don't you think you should have provided links to the blogs where the other parties have posted their sides of this situation?

For those of us not "in the know" you are presenting a far different picture than what I've just read.

I agree having read the information posted.

Disappointed.

 

[entitled]

It was more than two.

i'm not going to voice an opinion here, though i have one (imagine that - me with an opinion). It won't sway anybody either way. If hugo stays, he stays. If he doesn't, he doesn't. It's his decision and nobody else's.

It's also up to everybody here to gather information on the subject and form their own opinions if they so choose. However, to make it easier, and to be fair, it would be a little easier if links were provided.

 

[Aurora Black]

I'll save him the trouble. Follow these links, please:

Lizzy's Blog Entry

My Blog Entry

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I agree completely. I think that if you're asking people "should I stay or should I go," based on events which have transpired between yourself and two other posters, it only seems fair to provide the people with access to both sides of the story, so that they may have a more accurate representation of what is going on here. I don't think it's fair to assume that others have read the thread: "Be Brave . . Post a Journal Entry" to which you're referring.

I'm going to disagree. I don't think he is asking people to referee. And the point is not to build up two warring sides. It seems the point is to find out if he's still welcome by the majority of those he interracts with. It looks to me like a good number of folks enjoy his company. A few here seem to be more knowledgeable abou tte situation and their reception dosen't seem to be terribly negative.

I've had running conflicts with people here and I do my best not to drag innocent bystanders into the war zone. If I were concerned enough with the overall feelings of the group, I wouldn't add fuel to the flames of that conflict by airing it when asking how people felt about me.

At bottom, I don't feel I need or have a right to know about that conflict and its parameters, to respond to a question of how I percieve the poster. Forcing me to evaluate it, before I posted would tend to aggravate me. My perceptions of Hugo, based on how he has dealt with me, should not be influenced by a conflict I am, apparently, blissfully ignorant of. Especially if that conflict will invevitably boil down to a he said she said affair.

 

[cloudy]

I'm going to disagree. I don't think he is asking people to referee. And the point is not to build up two warring sides. It seems the point is to find out if he's still welcome by the majority of those he interracts with. It looks to me like a good number of folks enjoy his company. A few here seem to be more knowledgeable abou tte situation and their reception dosen't seem to be terribly negative.

I've had running conflicts with people here and I do my best not to drag innocent bystanders into the war zone. If I were concerned enough with the overall feelings of the group, I wouldn't add fuel to the flames of that conflict by airing it when asking how people felt about me.

At bottom, I don't feel I need or have a right to know about that conflict and its parameters, to respond to a question of how I percieve the poster. Forcing me to evaluate it, before I posted would tend to aggravate me. My perceptions of Hugo, based on how he has dealt with me, should not be influenced by a conflict I am, apparently, blissfully ignorant of. Especially if that conflict will invevitably boil down to a he said she said affair.

Bless you for your common sense.

I'll pass judgment on none of the three. I wasn't there, so I can't possibly know what happened.

I dislike the way this is headed, people.

 

[lil_elvis]

Hang around Hugo. I like you and that's enough for me. I don't need to know how others feel/think about you.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Its unanimous.......you're staying.

 

[sophia jane]

I'll pass judgment on none of the three. I wasn't there, so I can't possibly know what happened.

I dislike the way this is headed, people.

I dislike where it's headed as well, but I knew it would go here. I, too, feel it's Hugo's decision, but I do think that people should be able to make an informed decision. Not everyone is as open-minded as you, Cloudy (and I applaud you for being so). Some here have only heard Hugo's side of the story and so have passed judgment on at least two of the women involved. That's where part of the problem lies. There's been quite alot of behind the scenes drama that (thankfully) we're not privy to, but that drama has very much affected some of the posters here, and me personally, I don't like that one bit.

 

[Recidiva]

Thank you for the blog and the information.

Since engaging in any level of sexual exploration with someone will tend to bring out a lot of intimacy issues that I can't attempt to sort through, my honest impression is this:

I'm sympathetic to and concerned for anyone who feels harassed or stalked. Since I can't possibly know where any of this came from or is going to, all I can offer is my sympathy to all involved for having this become a public issue where you're to the point where you feel that someone should be taking sides.

To the ladies, my sympathy, and the advice that the first time a gentleman makes you feel uncomfortable, that's the end of your conversations with him unless there's an apology in the offing. It's unfortunate, but not everyone's suited, and it's up to you to shut the door before it gets ugly. Putting someone on ignore, though, isn't an assault to your defenses. It's just something you do. He didn't "force" you to do anything. If he was at your door with an axe, I'd be more concerned. Yes, multiple attempts with multiple emails, stalky. But handling that with just cutting him off is acceptable.

I understand rudeness and I sympathize, but dragging someone through the mud just makes you even, it doesn't make you right.

If anybody here has had every single liaison or attempt at a relationship go well without some ugly moments, I'd be very surprised.

Hugo, making this public doesn't make you right either. It makes the ladies more uncomfortable, and for that, my opinion of you as a prospective mate goes way down. Since you weren't in the running though, on the scale you were already on, we're fine.

"Setting The Record Straight" shouldn't involve the internet. If you're concerned someone is concerned about a private issue, take it up privately.