Poll says new college grads aren't ready for work

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Almost half of human resource officials polled by the professional organization said this year's college graduates lack basic English skills in grammar and spelling. Eighteen percent said the grads come up short in math and computation. Thirteen percent faulted the grads' spoken English, and 10 percent cited a lack of reading comprehension.

The biggest complaint by hirers was that the graduates lack "professionalism" or "work ethic," a deficiency listed by half of those surveyed. Nearly half detected a lack of "business acumen."

The generalized complaints - obtained from members of the human resource association - were reported along with more detailed revelations about why organizations were or weren't hiring. Among hirers, 20 percent said the graduates were "under-qualified" for their job openings.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/...e-grads-arent.html#.UbiiAGQ4VjM#storylink=cpy


But they can text! Plus ask them about the important things, like gay marriage. :cool:
 
Almost half of human resource officials polled by the professional organization said this year's college graduates lack basic English skills in grammar and spelling. Eighteen percent said the grads come up short in math and computation. Thirteen percent faulted the grads' spoken English, and 10 percent cited a lack of reading comprehension.

The biggest complaint by hirers was that the graduates lack "professionalism" or "work ethic," a deficiency listed by half of those surveyed. Nearly half detected a lack of "business acumen."

The generalized complaints - obtained from members of the human resource association - were reported along with more detailed revelations about why organizations were or weren't hiring. Among hirers, 20 percent said the graduates were "under-qualified" for their job openings.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/...e-grads-arent.html#.UbiiAGQ4VjM#storylink=cpy


But they can text! Plus ask them about the important things, like gay marriage. :cool:

You got exactly what you voted for.
 
Naaah. Theyre all t-ball trophy winners these days, and clueless. America is Crackerized for your safety and convenience. Please step back from the door and an associate will help you with your looting.
 
Maybe it's just my poor math skills, whatwith the public school and the being in college recently- but on all the stats were actual percentages were used and not "almost half", these kids are passing with a B average. So... they score well on all those areas, and have core knowledge from their particular course of study and they can text- which translates to an understanding of how social media has fueled the evolution of human interaction, a skill that is essential in... any professional field.
 
Of course I never really trust anything based on a poll anyway. PR people don't seem to know shit about anything- I'd be more willing to trust a standardized test on things like grammar, especially since you have to take those tests to graduate from college.

So I was skeptical about their sources. Clicking on them brought up my antivirus software, so... still pretty skeptical. The idea that you can't hire an IT professional because they're under-qualified makes no sense when half of what IT professionals do is simple shit that can be done by a 13-year-old with a T4 line, and involves running tech support for people who don't seem to understand simple shit like setting up network sharing. The poor tech support guy for H&R block where I work has gotten to the point where he doesn't even try to talk to the elderly people in the office, he asks to speak to me or Whitney and then just asks us how they fucked up and could we, as people with some fucking sense, please fix it because he's busy playing his DS.

It is impossible to be under-qualified for that job. And more people are going into fields in the humanities rather than engineering or computer science? Maybe that's because four years ago the fucking job market in the humanities exploded whereas tech based fields kind of stagnated and you usually got a computer science degree and wound up running tech support for fucking H & R Block, not chatting up booth babes at Nintendo of America at E3. But you get a radiology or psyche degree and you get a job in your field- there's always a need for social workers.
 
A century ago folks went to college to speed up the self-made-man education process. College gave young people a leg up with the math, languages, and sciences they learned. It was quite practicable to become an engineer or medical doctor without a college degree, and many did, but college provided the larval doctor and engineer with a fund of natural philosophy to use when they came up against puzzles and mysteries.

But today college is one more place to get a t-ball trophy without performing. JUST GET HERE AND WE'LL DO THE REST,
 
... and they can text- which translates to an understanding of how social media has fueled the evolution of human interaction, a skill that is essential in... any professional field.

so, texting is a skill that's essential in any professional field? yeah, good luck testing that theory. :rolleyes:
 
Put this bitch in high gear and open the throttle wide........ Idiocrasy, here we come
 
Doesn't this poll/article come out every other year? I think this is a cyclical rehash from like 1983. :rolleyes:
 
Of course I never really trust anything based on a poll anyway. PR people don't seem to know shit about anything- I'd be more willing to trust a standardized test on things like grammar, especially since you have to take those tests to graduate from college.

So I was skeptical about their sources. Clicking on them brought up my antivirus software, so... still pretty skeptical. The idea that you can't hire an IT professional because they're under-qualified makes no sense when half of what IT professionals do is simple shit that can be done by a 13-year-old with a T4 line, and involves running tech support for people who don't seem to understand simple shit like setting up network sharing. The poor tech support guy for H&R block where I work has gotten to the point where he doesn't even try to talk to the elderly people in the office, he asks to speak to me or Whitney and then just asks us how they fucked up and could we, as people with some fucking sense, please fix it because he's busy playing his DS.

It is impossible to be under-qualified for that job. And more people are going into fields in the humanities rather than engineering or computer science? Maybe that's because four years ago the fucking job market in the humanities exploded whereas tech based fields kind of stagnated and you usually got a computer science degree and wound up running tech support for fucking H & R Block, not chatting up booth babes at Nintendo of America at E3. But you get a radiology or psyche degree and you get a job in your field- there's always a need for social workers.

This has little if anything to do with the topic.
 
Doesn't this poll/article come out every other year? I think this is a cyclical rehash from like 1983. :rolleyes:

I used to recruit people in the 1970s and 1980s.

I could have complained in those terms then. My predecessors could have moaned in the 1960s, 50s ...

Recruiting a graduate is pointless unless you, the employer, are prepared to invest in their continued training to turn them into a useful member of the organisation.

But if you do provide the training, most of the 'inadequate' graduates will prove their worth.

Just don't call it 'training'. Call it 'management development', 'company assimilation' or anything. New graduates have always thought they knew it all.
 
so, what's your point, exactly? we shouldn't bother with higher education?
or we should, but only if they're democrats?

:rolleyes:

The point is obvious. When Republicans have spent the last thirty plus years defunding education and demonizing teachers they don't get to complain about students being stupid. It's the result of their own actions and everybody tried to stop them but they wouldn't listen.
 
The point is obvious. When Republicans have spent the last thirty plus years defunding education and demonizing teachers they don't get to complain about students being stupid. It's the result of their own actions and everybody tried to stop them but they wouldn't listen.

so you're saying that republicans are completely to blame for the collective stupidity of americans in general? can you explain this further, and provide links?

also, which teachers did they demonize? how did they demonize them?
 
so you're saying that republicans are completely to blame for the collective stupidity of americans in general? can you explain this further, and provide links?

also, which teachers did they demonize? how did they demonize them?

Where are you getting stupidity from? That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
 
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