Poll: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins

[SugarDaddy1]

President Joe Biden is heading into election year showing “alarming weakness” among “stalwarts” of the Democrat base — black, Hispanic, and young voters, according to a new poll.

The USA Today/Suffolk University poll showed that one in five black voters would support a third-party candidate in 2024.

In addition, Biden has fallen behind former President Donald Trump, the likely Republican nominee, with Hispanic and young voters, 39-34 percent and 37-33 percent, respectively. Both groups backed Biden in 2020.

The poll also showed that Vice President Kamala Harris got lower job approval ratings than Biden among black voters: 56 percent, compared with Biden’s 68 percent. She is also less popular among young voters: 27 percent, compared to Biden’s 32 percent.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elec...ng-voters-abandon-biden-election-year-begins/

 

[ll74]

Noticeable here is that Trump hasn't increased any support with those voters.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Brietbart
Noticeable here is that Trump hasn't increased any support with those voters.

lol what's also missing is the actual "poll". Every link showing poll,leads to another article. I guess if you want to see the questions and responses and the data you need to find the poll. Breitbart obviously wants to hide the poll. Why?

 

[ll74]

lol what's also missing is the actual "poll". Every link showing poll,leads to another article. I guess if you want to see the questions and responses and the data you need to find the poll. Breitbart obviously wants to hide the poll. Why?

True, but at least they linked to USA Today this time, which is typically not the case. The poll data itself doesn't seem to be available publicly.

I'd say the fault it USA Today for this, although Suffolks's page also seems to be lagging.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...odds-black-hispanic-young-voters/72072111007/

That being said, RCP average has Trump ahead by 2.4 pts.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

 

[Fuzzy1975]

True, but at least they linked to USA Today this time, which is typically not the case. The poll data itself doesn't seem to be available publicly.

I'd say the fault it USA Today for this, although Suffolks's page also seems to be lagging.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...odds-black-hispanic-young-voters/72072111007/

That being said, RCP average has Trump ahead by 2.4 pts.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

Yes even on Suffolks page I can't find this.

https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/research-at-suffolk/political-research-center/polls/national

AS to RCP's 2.4% for Trump, that kind of goes with their Biden +8% last time around (2020). The election showed it a lot closer. Once the candidates are validated and Octobers rolled around, I'll start giving polls some value, until then, they are just talking points for political pundits.

 

[ll74]

Yes even on Suffolks page I can't find this.

https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/research-at-suffolk/political-research-center/polls/national

AS to RCP's 2.4% for Trump, that kind of goes with their Biden +8% last time around (2020). The election showed it a lot closer. Once the candidates are validated and Octobers rolled around, I'll start giving polls some value, until then, they are just talking points for political pundits.

Polls are what they are. Definitely within the margin of error at the moment. Polls have never affected my vote but are interesting to disect.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Polls have never affected my vote but are interesting to disect.

Agreed,which is why I like to be able to see the raw data.

 

[Veroe]

Good points raised by those above me, but sounds like cope to me. Biden is suffering some losses of support in certain key demos. Blacks and hispanics and younger voters have cooled their opinion of him. But also I haven't seen any polling that says that translates to them switching to Trump supporters.

 

[ll74]

Good points raised by those above me, but sounds like cope to me. Biden is suffering some losses of support in certain key demos. Blacks and hispanics and younger voters have cooled their opinion of him. But also I haven't seen any polling that says that translates to them switching to Trump supporters.

Yep - it is interesting to see what were once strong numbers eroding.

Messaging from the Dems really sucks. Should be fairly straightforward - most significant legislation that increased jobs in every area of the country. I'd make that the ad campaign....start putting real numbers out there for infrastructure projects and chips act.

 

[Veroe]

Yep - it is interesting to see what were once strong numbers eroding.

Messaging from the Dems really sucks. Should be fairly straightforward - most significant legislation that increased jobs in every area of the country. I'd make that the ad campaign....start putting real numbers out there for infrastructure projects and chips act.

All it would take is some good campaigning and outreach to those voting blocks to turn it around, but depressingly I'm not seeing any of that from Biden. So far his strategy seems to be "I'm not old you're old."

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yep - it is interesting to see what were once strong numbers eroding.

Messaging from the Dems really sucks. Should be fairly straightforward - most significant legislation that increased jobs in every area of the country. I'd make that the ad campaign....start putting real numbers out there for infrastructure projects and chips act.

The one question I'd like to see the results on are; do you plan to vote. You can have either side saying who'd they vote for, but if they don't plan on voting, or are hesitant on if they will vote. Means way more, since at election time it's the ones who voted and how, that count.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elec...ng-voters-abandon-biden-election-year-begins/

oh look, time for a reminder bump in your other thread....which means you get another penny for your pay cheque do too views....ya for you!!

 

[SugarDaddy1]

By the numbers: Sunday's New York Times poll of six swing states (all of which Biden won last time) was brutal. While we're skeptical of any one poll, this one is directionally in line with others. Let these once unthinkable findings sink in:

• Biden's support among nonwhite voters dropped 33 points compared to 2020 results.
• The more diverse a state, the worse Biden does, The Times found.
• Trump's support among Black voters popped to 22 points, which The Times called "unseen in presidential politics for a Republican in modern times."

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden-black-hispanic-voters-losing-polls

 

[Bray123]

If it makes you comfortable to think that Trump has support from actual black people (not being middle-aged white folks with a 'Blacks for Trump' shirt), you carry on.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Trump's temperature runs high on the enthusiasm thermometer​

The challenge for Biden is to increase not only his support but also voter enthusiasm so his supporters bother to cast a ballot in November.

In the poll, 44% of Trump supporters describe themselves as a "10" on a thermometer measuring enthusiasm, the highest possible level. Among Biden supporters, fewer than half that number, 18%, call themselves a "10".

 

[ll74]

Trump's temperature runs high on the enthusiasm thermometer​

The challenge for Biden is to increase not only his support but also voter enthusiasm so his supporters bother to cast a ballot in November.

In the poll, 44% of Trump supporters describe themselves as a "10" on a thermometer measuring enthusiasm, the highest possible level. Among Biden supporters, fewer than half that number, 18%, call themselves a "10".

This thread is about Biden losing Hispanic and black voters. As has been pointed out - Trump has not gained ground with those voters.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Yes even on Suffolks page I can't find this.

https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/research-at-suffolk/political-research-center/polls/national

AS to RCP's 2.4% for Trump, that kind of goes with their Biden +8% last time around (2020). The election showed it a lot closer. Once the candidates are validated and Octobers rolled around, I'll start giving polls some value, until then, they are just talking points for political pundits.

Actually Biden was at +4.5 in the RCP average at this point in time in 2020 cycle. Of course polls are simply a snapshot in time and polls taken today don’t reflect what will happen in November, but it is interesting that Biden’s margin of victory in the 2020 election turned out to be about 4%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This thread is about Biden losing Hispanic and black voters. As has been pointed out - Trump has not gained ground with those voters.

Understood. The data point I shared addresses the enthusiasm gap.

 

[ll74]

Understood. The data point I shared addresses the enthusiasm gap.

Yes, I get that you shared an adjacent topic.

 

[snailspace]

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elec...ng-voters-abandon-biden-election-year-begins/

Will never happen at election time.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Yes, I get that you shared an adjacent topic.

and I get that it annoys you

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Actually Biden was at +4.5 in the RCP average at this point in time in 2020 cycle. Of course polls are simply a snapshot in time and polls taken today don’t reflect what will happen in November, but it is interesting that Biden’s margin of victory in the 2020 election turned out to be about 4%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

I quoted RCP from October 2020, when it was 8%, and then after the election, everyone was wondering what was wrong with polls. Dew research had an excellent article on it, but I'm not sure if it was in Dec 20,or Jan 21.

 

[Rick345]

The poll says young voters support Robert Kennedy Jr by 34% and he's not going to be on the ticket come November. Its exceedingly doubtful he'll even be a third party candidate come November..

When the republicans pick their guy then the polls might have some meaning..

As far as young voters go I think whoever addresses the issues of Inflation and gas prices, Abortion and reproductive health and Jobs that pay a living wage will get the youth vote. But we'll have to wait, by the second week of March the republicans will probably have the candidate picked out then we'll see what kind of cesspool we will be forced to pick from...

 

[SugarDaddy1]

Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) said he is “very concerned” about President Joe Biden’s ability to garner support from black voters heading into the 2024 election, and he said Biden has a messaging problem.

Tapper brought up recent reports that former President Barack Obama met with Biden to express concern about the president’s reelection bid. Tapper said the reports come amid Biden’s struggle to maintain support among black voters, and he asked Clyburn if he was worried about black voters showing up for Biden.

“Well, I’m not worried — I’m very concerned. And I have sat down with President Biden… I’ve told him what my concerns are,” the South Carolina lawmaker responded.

Clyburn’s frustration comes after a year when NBC News reported the president’s approval rating among black voters dropped nearly 20%.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...clyburn-as-it-fails-to-convince-black-voters/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...clyburn-as-it-fails-to-convince-black-voters/

lol you and Boomer need to get a room. How'd it go last cycle,did you and HisArpy get a room. The only poll that matters is the one held on Nov 5th. If Trump is on the ticket a hamster could run against him and win.