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Police procedure question?
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dutchsmurf
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If the police does their job properly, he will never get close to the suspect. Maybe he needs to identify him, but that will be done behind a one way mirror. You indeed see confrontations between suspect and victim on tv at times, but then the police almost never does a proper job there on any front. The police most likely won't call the family either, but tell them in person. Either at the police station or at the family's house. They will most likely also mention who it is, so there isn't any reason to go there unless your character is actively going for a confrontation. If the police does its job, your character should end in a cell himself then.
On the other hand because it happens on tv all the time, using it in your story isn't completely unbelievable. Technically it can happen, but it indeed isn't very likely.
On the other hand because it happens on tv all the time, using it in your story isn't completely unbelievable. Technically it can happen, but it indeed isn't very likely.
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The problem with the concept is, that once the arrest is made, the suspect is never in a public area of the police station. He is in locked areas that are not accessible to the public--not even the victions or families of the victims.
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The only way this can happen...
The only way this can happen is if your protagonist is an employee of the police department, which would give him access to the suspect; or POSSIBLY your protagonist could be or pretend to be a media reporter. But even the Media is only allowed partial access, and not to the restricted areas.
Check out my story Interlude 5 at http://www.literotica.com/s/interlude-ch-05. The descriptions of the police station there are based upon a real police station.
Hope this helps.
The only way this can happen is if your protagonist is an employee of the police department, which would give him access to the suspect; or POSSIBLY your protagonist could be or pretend to be a media reporter. But even the Media is only allowed partial access, and not to the restricted areas.
Check out my story Interlude 5 at http://www.literotica.com/s/interlude-ch-05. The descriptions of the police station there are based upon a real police station.
Hope this helps.
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Okay, it certainly could happen if, as you said, he is released on bail. Of course, jails are built differently, but most have a back area where suspects are booked as well as released on bail. Once bail is posted the suspect is free to go where he wants. The cops do not follow him around to make sure he doesn't run into people. They don't have the man power for that. Certainly a suspect, who has just been released could be leaving the jail at the same time a family member could be coming in.
Okay, it certainly could happen if, as you said, he is released on bail. Of course, jails are built differently, but most have a back area where suspects are booked as well as released on bail. Once bail is posted the suspect is free to go where he wants. The cops do not follow him around to make sure he doesn't run into people. They don't have the man power for that. Certainly a suspect, who has just been released could be leaving the jail at the same time a family member could be coming in.
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The trouble here is that few murder suspects will be granted bail.
WifeWatchman
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Not at the station...
No, unless it's a really poorly run police station, that couldn't happen. If a suspect is released on bail (which usually happens at the Court house after a hearing), that suspect would not be allowed to roam the halls of the police station. He'd be out of the building completely, and pretty fast. Any confrontation would happen outside and likely away from the building.
However, Literotica is full of fantasy stories, so you can make your story work how you want it to.....
No, unless it's a really poorly run police station, that couldn't happen. If a suspect is released on bail (which usually happens at the Court house after a hearing), that suspect would not be allowed to roam the halls of the police station. He'd be out of the building completely, and pretty fast. Any confrontation would happen outside and likely away from the building.
However, Literotica is full of fantasy stories, so you can make your story work how you want it to.....
Sorry, but I have to disagree
The perp is taken to the court house for arraignment and usually will have a bond hearing at the same time. If bond is posted at that time then yes, you are right. But if not, the perp is taken to jail. Now when bond is posted, he is brought to the property room where he is given his stuff back and released. I have seen several jails where the perp is literally brought out through the main jail and released.
I was a press photographer for many, many years and have taken pictures of several perps as they were released. I also posted bail for a friend who was then brought out to me through the main entrence.
Depending on the circumstances, if is very possible a meeting could happen. Usually, if there is an investigating officer and victims involved, the victims will be warned or notified if the perp is about to be released.
The perp is taken to the court house for arraignment and usually will have a bond hearing at the same time. If bond is posted at that time then yes, you are right. But if not, the perp is taken to jail. Now when bond is posted, he is brought to the property room where he is given his stuff back and released. I have seen several jails where the perp is literally brought out through the main jail and released.
I was a press photographer for many, many years and have taken pictures of several perps as they were released. I also posted bail for a friend who was then brought out to me through the main entrence.
Depending on the circumstances, if is very possible a meeting could happen. Usually, if there is an investigating officer and victims involved, the victims will be warned or notified if the perp is about to be released.
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In the UK, an accidental meeting in the court building between the accused and the victim before the trial is all too easy.
My house was burgled. I disturbed the burglar inside my house and we exchanged insults. When the case went to court, the accused and his solicitor were in a small room near the entrance. I, with the Police witness, were in the next room. The accused and I met at the coffee machine. We ignored each other, politely, and pretended we were strangers.
He was a first-time offender. If he had been a prolific burglar, he probably wouldn't have remembered who his victims were but if he did, the encounter could have been awkward.
On another occasion I was on a jury. Before we were called to go to wait in the jury room, the four accused teenagers passed by the jury members, joking about their forthcoming appearance in court. Did that influence our decision?
It might have done, except that they behaved in court exactly as they had outside it. The defence solicitors had to remind them several times that they had to show respect to the court. We convicted them on all charges after an hour's discussion.
Then the judge, before passing sentence, told the jury that between the four now convicted people, they had sixteen suspended sentences to be activated and over 200 offences 'to be taken into consideration'.
They were far more familiar with the inside of that court than the jury members.
My house was burgled. I disturbed the burglar inside my house and we exchanged insults. When the case went to court, the accused and his solicitor were in a small room near the entrance. I, with the Police witness, were in the next room. The accused and I met at the coffee machine. We ignored each other, politely, and pretended we were strangers.
He was a first-time offender. If he had been a prolific burglar, he probably wouldn't have remembered who his victims were but if he did, the encounter could have been awkward.
On another occasion I was on a jury. Before we were called to go to wait in the jury room, the four accused teenagers passed by the jury members, joking about their forthcoming appearance in court. Did that influence our decision?
It might have done, except that they behaved in court exactly as they had outside it. The defence solicitors had to remind them several times that they had to show respect to the court. We convicted them on all charges after an hour's discussion.
Then the judge, before passing sentence, told the jury that between the four now convicted people, they had sixteen suspended sentences to be activated and over 200 offences 'to be taken into consideration'.
They were far more familiar with the inside of that court than the jury members.
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They would not release a murder suspect before an arraigment (sp?). That takes a couples days and that's even at the judge's discretion.....many times there is no bail for violent crimes, especially murder. Or it could be like the city I live in where a judge grants bond for a murdeR suspect before trial only to have him arrested for the murder of two more individuals before he is set to go back to court.....sorry a little bit of a personal rant there. Good luck with your story, and ill be looking forward to reading it. 
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It depends. The scenario you're presenting most likely the police would've had to gather evidence and present to the state's attorney's office who will in turn present the evidence to a judge to get an arrest warrant. At which time after the suspect has been arrested, due to the nature of the charges in your story will be booked in the police station and then transferred to the County Jail. Once at the county jail he will be processed into the jail and attend a bond court hearing. Then, depending on the brutality of the murder and the suspects past criminal history, the judge will decide whether or not the suspect is eligible for bond. If bail is granted the suspect will then in most cases, post 10% of the total before he is released. As to whether or not it's your character could come into contact with the subject after he's posted bail that depends on how the jail is set up. In most major metropolitan correctional facilities this is highly unlikely as prisoner release is in a completely separate area than the general public uses to enter the facility in most cases. In many of the collar and rural county areas, the county jails are set up in such a way as that anyone released on bail exits through the same door the general public would come in to post their bond, and in some cases, sign up for visitation.
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I have to agree that is more for television or the movies than real life. Depending on the previous criminal background of the individual arrested, the individual's circumstances, and circumstances surrounding the murder it is possible that the person charged with murder could be held without bail. With that said, it is possible either before the arraignment or after the arraignment that the argument ensues depending on how those arrested are brought to the court house to have their bail set. However, in a large city those arrested are brought in the back way to keep them from the public but in smaller town it is possible that someone arrested could have contact with the public as they are transported to the courthouse.
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