Poet bio-pics and caddish poems

[bogusagain]

I was forced to watch a bio-pic of Lord Byron by a lady friend yesterday. Well I wasn't forced to watch it, I thought it politic and also good for my romantic life but not sure if the price wasn't too high since I tend to have a dislike of bio-pics of any kind. Just wondering if there are other bio-pics of poets to be avoided but I could torture my lady friend with by recommending them to her?

The film managed to stir up the misogynist in me as I sat there pretending to care about Lord Byron's rather dull and childish life just to ingratiate myself with my lady friend when this rather bad caddish ditty came into my head as I stole a glance at my would be romantic interest.

my tongue unzips
your silken purse
to steal the knowledge
of how your clitoris is set

but would you offer me
such generousity
if you knew to who
I’m comparing you

not to nectar leaking
from a ripened fruit
nor to a scented orchid
but to your sister

how she wriggles
with unashamed glee
when she gives me
the self same liberty

Films and caddish poems please if you have any. I would love to sweetly whisper sour verse into her delightful ear to see if she really does listen to what is being said while she's on a dewy eyed romantic hallucinogenic poetry trip.

 

[vrosej10]

I was forced to watch a bio-pic of Lord Byron by a lady friend yesterday. Well I wasn't forced to watch it, I thought it politic and also good for my romantic life but not sure if the price wasn't too high since I tend to have a dislike of bio-pics of any kind. Just wondering if there are other bio-pics of poets to be avoided but I could torture my lady friend with by recommending them to her?

The film managed to stir up the misogynist in me as I sat there pretending to care about Lord Byron's rather dull and childish life just to ingratiate myself with my lady friend when this rather bad caddish ditty came into my head as I stole a glance at my would be romantic interest.

my tongue unzips
your silken purse
to steal the knowledge
of how your clitoris is set

but would you offer me
such generousity
if you knew to who
I’m comparing you

not to nectar leaking
from a ripened fruit
nor to a scented orchid
but to your sister

how she wriggles
with unashamed glee
when she gives me
the self same liberty

Films and caddish poems please if you have any. I would love to sweetly whisper sour verse into her delightful ear to see if she really does listen to what is being said while she's on a dewy eyed romantic hallucinogenic poetry trip.

Going that extra mile for pussy. How sweet of you. Have you considered the things you lady friend might be enduring to keep you happy?

 

[bronzeage]

Going that extra mile for pussy. How sweet of you. Have you considered the things you lady friend might be enduring to keep you happy?

The secret if a good relationship is finding someone who can put up with your shit.

 

[Angeline]

The secret if a good relationship is finding someone who can put up with your shit.

I was thinking that just this morning as I trekked from one bathroom to the other because my beloved once again failed to put a fresh roll of tp out!

 

[bogusagain]

Going that extra mile for pussy. How sweet of you. Have you considered the things you lady friend might be enduring to keep you happy?

I've noticed her wince a time or two when I scatch my balls.

 

[bogusagain]

The secret if a good relationship is finding someone who can put up with your shit.

Which reminds me, I suppose that was the reason for Plath and Hughes ending in the ditch. Which reminds me that is one film I forgot but can't remember what it's called, I started watching it once on TV but fell asleep.

 

[vrosej10]

Which reminds me, I suppose that was the reason for Plath and Hughes ending in the ditch. Which reminds me that is one film I forgot but can't remember what it's called, I started watching it once on TV but fell asleep.

Don't even get me started on Ted Hughes. I'm a big plathophile and that man shits me. I wish he'd release his death grip on her writing so we could read the real truth, not the censored version of himself we're getting man. For fucks sack, he married a woman he knew had mental problems and then fucked with her head. Honestly what did he think was gunna happen?

 

[bogusagain]

Don't even get me started on Ted Hughes. I'm a big plathophile and that man shits me. I wish he'd release his death grip on her writing so we could read the real truth, not the censored version of himself we're getting man. For fucks sack, he married a woman he knew had mental problems and then fucked with her head. Honestly what did he think was gunna happen?

No one is responsible for Plath's suicide other than Plath herself. She was nuts and tried to kill herself before she even met Hughes. I suspect if Hughes really knew just how nuts she was, he would have given her a wide birth. I certainly would have. However, her young suicide cemented her reputation by not allowing her to over produce. Personally I think feminists who have been blaming Hughes ever since Plath's suicide as having lost the plot. Plath self destructed, she wasn't destroyed by Hughes.

 

[vrosej10]

No one is responsible for Plath's suicide other than Plath herself. She was nuts and tried to kill herself before she even met Hughes. I suspect if Hughes really knew just how nuts she was, he would have given her a wide birth. I certainly would have. However, her young suicide cemented her reputation by not allowing her to over produce. Personally I think feminists who have been blaming Hughes ever since Plath's suicide as having lost the plot. Plath self destructed, she wasn't destroyed by Hughes.

Plath might have done it herself but Hughes contributed to her mess. He knew how nuts she was and exactly what he was marrying (do your reading before spouting off) and he still mistreated a fragile indvidual. How do you explain Assia Wevill hey? If he's such a great guy, how come a second woman offed herself under his tender mercies? And she was not mentally ill until she met him.

Ask yourself, if you antagonise someone enough and they attempt to kill you, are you not is some way partly responsible for their crime?

 

[bogusagain]

Plath might have done it herself but Hughes contributed to her mess. He knew how nuts she was and exactly what he was marrying (do your reading before spouting off) and he still mistreated a fragile indvidual. How do you explain Assia Wevill hey? If he's such a great guy, how come a second woman offed herself under his tender mercies? And she was not mentally ill until she met him.

Ask yourself, if you antagonise someone enough and they attempt to kill you, are you not is some way partly responsible for their crime?

Hughes is guilty of having relationships with two nutty women. even Assia's sister said Assia feared getting old, she was an obsessive and the way she was supposed to have morbidly used Plaths possessions and obsessed about her illustrates she was a fruit cake.

The idea that Hughes so antagonised these women that they commited suicide just doesn't hold up considering what people who knew them say about their relationships. If healthy women were so fragile there would be a traffic jam at the local morgue. Middle class feminists often manufacture stories to confirm their prejudices and the feminist attack on Hughes has more to do with prejudice and misandry than reality. The two women were nuts, that's why people tend to kill themselves, they are detached from reality.

If you really want someone to blame for Plath's suicide other than Plath herself, you can do no worse than look at her background and parents.

 

[vrosej10]

Hughes is guilty of having relationships with two nutty women. even Assia's sister said Assia feared getting old, she was an obsessive and the way she was supposed to have morbidly used Plaths possessions and obsessed about her illustrates she was a fruit cake.

The idea that Hughes so antagonised these women that they commited suicide just doesn't hold up considering what people who knew them say about their relationships. If healthy women were so fragile there would be a traffic jam at the local morgue. Middle class feminists often manufacture stories to confirm their prejudices and the feminist attack on Hughes has more to do with prejudice and misandry than reality. The two women were nuts, that's why people tend to kill themselves, they are detached from reality.

And you're buying into Hughes' own propaganda. I might be a feminist but you come over as a male chauvinist pig prepared to forgive any kind of misbehaviour by members of their own gender. The man couldn't keep it in his pants and he blamed everyone but himself for his lack of self control. Open your eyes. The man has ruthlessly controlled every single word ever published about him, rigorous pursuing even those people who actually witnessed the shit he did and had legitimate cause to question his integrity. He was so afraid of his own truth that he would never let himself be held up to any kind of scrutiny. Frankly I think he felt emasculated her considerably greater talent (and yes I've read both. She might be crazy but he comes over as one cold son of a bitch).Read Jaqueline Rose's book on the subject and get back to me.

 

[vrosej10]

You know what, I stand by my argument but I apologise for losing my temper with you. I should have been calmer and more controlled. I am normally very even and reasonable but I have had a bad evening being tormented by a lazy ungrateful sexist shit at uni who I was actually trying to help (no good deed goes unpunished). The Plath thing pushes my buttons. I know someone well who was driven to attempt suicide by the man in her life's relentless emotional abuse.

 

[bogusagain]

And you're buying into Hughes' own propaganda. I might be a feminist but you come over as a male chauvinist pig prepared to forgive any kind of misbehaviour by members of their own gender.

Nothing to do with Hughes propaganda as Hughes has said very little on the whole subject. Plath was self obsessed, it is exactly the quality why her poetry is what it is.

The man couldn't keep it in his pants and he blamed everyone but himself for his lack of self control. .

Hmm If only Assia could keep her knickers on.

Do I detect hypocrisy?

Open your eyes. The man has ruthlessly controlled every single word ever published about him, rigorous pursuing even those people who actually witnessed the shit he did and had legitimate cause to question his integrity.

The man is dead. How long do we have to wait for these revelations you appear to be claiming exist?

He was so afraid of his own truth that he would never let himself be held up to any kind of scrutiny.

You have no idea how he felt or what he was afraid of. The raving fallopians pursued him from the off making wild accusations. Even Germaine Greer now admits feminists got it wrong and the problem was Plath herself.

Frankly I think he felt emasculated her considerably greater talent (and yes I've read both. She might be crazy but he comes over as one cold son of a bitch).Read Jaqueline Rose's book on the subject and get back to me.

Rose is hardly an independent thinker on the matter, she accused everyone around Plath as being at fault. Hughes basically told her to fuck off which is why she was hostile to him. Her only claim to fame is her parasitic attachment to the memory of Plath.

 

[bogusagain]

You know what, I stand by my argument but I apologise for losing my temper with you. I should have been calmer and more controlled. I am normally very even and reasonable but I have had a bad evening being tormented by a lazy ungrateful sexist shit at uni who I was actually trying to help (no good deed goes unpunished). The Plath thing pushes my buttons. I know someone well who was driven to attempt suicide by the man in her life's relentless emotional abuse.

No need to apologise. If a subject is worth arguing about it is worth losing ones temper over.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

I've noticed her wince a time or two when I scatch my balls.

Why do men scratch their balls (and if you say because they itch I will hit you women itch too and don't scratch) and often in public too?! Seems to come under the same male behaviour as sitting watching TV and farting (another male thang that they find hilarious)

 

[bogusagain]

Why do men scratch their balls (and if you say because they itch I will hit you women itch too and don't scratch) and often in public too?! Seems to come under the same male behaviour as sitting watching TV and farting (another male thang that they find hilarious)

ROFL I think half the time they aren't so much scratching as repositioning their tackle into a more comfortable position but hey, it can get hot and sweaty down there during the day if you doing physical work.

Any itch you've got, I'll scratch it.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

ROFL I think half the time they aren't so much scratching as repositioning their tackle into a more comfortable position but hey, it can get hot and sweaty down there during the day if you doing physical work.

Any itch you've got, I'll scratch it.

Ohhhhh my! how do I answer that?!! perhaps it's better I don't but just smile and keep my thoughts to myself

 

[EroticOrogeny]

Why do men scratch their balls (and if you say because they itch I will hit you women itch too and don't scratch) and often in public too?! Seems to come under the same male behaviour as sitting watching TV and farting (another male thang that they find hilarious)

Don't think baseball would be the same if the players didn't scratch their balls.

 

[vrosej10]

Don't think baseball would be the same if the players didn't scratch their balls.

I never watch it myself but rugby league wouldn't be either. Men do strange things on the football field. There was one player in the last decade who was actually took a piss on field, on camera. Worse than that, we had one guy who was sticking his fingers up the butt of fellow player. Seriously.

 

[vrosej10]

No need to apologise. If a subject is worth arguing about it is worth losing ones temper over.

I was pissy and I took it out on you which I shouldn't have. Normally I am an ice cool opponent in any argument. I launched an ad hominem attack, which I know better than to do.

I am prepared to agree to disagree on this one. Granted the feminists might want his balls for earring, but isn't it at all possible that he's also a bit of a dirtbag dickhead?