Playing doctor: Normal for preschoolers?

Cheyenne

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When my daughter was 2 to 3 years old she attended a cooperative parents' preschool (in the midwest) part time. The children went through a period in which they were heavily involved in "playing doctor". As you may imagine, this stirred up quite a bit of anxiety in the parents. For several months, parents meetings focused on this issue. There were heated discussions and much controversy, but we were able to come to an agreement which I believe was a healthy outcome. Parents talked about their own sexual upbringing, including the mystery, guilt and shame that surrounded much of their initiation into sexuality. We talked about the clearing the air of fear, and focusing on how we wanted our own children to learn about their bodies.

It was decided that guidelines for safety and respect were in order, but that we should not curtail, shame or redirect their natural exploration with one another. We talked to the children (at home and in the daycare setting) about respecting their bodies and the game of "playing doctor" which included not putting anything (objects, etc.) into a girl's vagina, not pulling (hurting) the boy's penis, but being able to look at one another's bodies and observing the differences between boys and girls, if both children were equally interested in such exploration. Children were interested in the way peeing was different for boys and girls, the way the genitals looked, and yes children did know that their parents did something with these parts of the body that was a bit secretive, maybe exotic in some way. Whatever questions the children asked, adults answered. Where babies came from? (a big topic as many children at the center were having siblings) how they were made? And many children at the center were present in some capacity when their own siblings were born.

The result was that children explored each other in a safe (and supervised) manner in a little tent they set up to go into when they wanted to "play doctor". (Of course, other play activities could and did happen in the tent as well). One of the daycare workers would stand by, beside the tent to supervise unobtrusively. This was decided by the parents, so that other children who were not interested in such play (perhaps younger) would proceed to this interest on their own, and so that children would learn respect for privacy about their bodies.

I realize that this is by no means the norm in terms of a cooperative environment to answer our children's natural curiosity and wonder about their bodies. And not all situations will lend themselves to allow such exploration to flourish (and subside) in a natural manner. I was disappointed at the lack of awareness or interest in this issue when my son attended daycare in a different setting and state (California). However, the underlying messages of this very ideal situation in which my daughter was fortunate to experience, were the values of respect, wonder and a positive relationship to her body that are so important and so neglected in our culture. <snip>

Full article at: http://www.parentsoup.com/print/0,7853,501412,00.html
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Would the parents on the board send their kids to a tent to play doctor?
 
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For you teachers, would you want to supervise this tent at recess?
 
Cheyenne said:
For you teachers, would you want to supervise this tent at recess?


I shudder at the thought of which teacher volunteers to supervise this area.
 
If I were a teacher I would run from that job as fast as I could. That situation has lawsuit and other legal problems written all over it.:(
 
I am sitting here trying to imagine a situation in which this arrangement would be acceptable to me.

I admit it.

I can't open my mind enough to say , "Yeah! Sure! Go play doctor!"

When these kids turn 13, will their parents set up supervised fuck tents so that that they can explore their bodies then, as well?

I guess I really feel that it is up to me to determine what my children need to know with regard to their bodies.

We are not ashamed of our bodies, but some modesty is required.

If modesty isn't taught at a fairly young age, it is difficult to instill in an older child.
 
No, I sure as hell would not.

I think 2 and 3 is a little young for that kind of interest in others. They aren't even really engaging at that age, it's mostly parallel play.

Even at 4 or 5 though I don't think 'playing doctor'should be encouraged so much as accepted. Certainly a parent shouldn't express shame or disgust if it happens, but they should gently explain that 'our genitals are private and we don't take off our clothes in public".
 
lisalove said:


Even at 4 or 5 though I don't think 'playing doctor'should be encouraged so much as accepted. Certainly a parent shouldn't express shame or disgust if it happens, but they should gently explain that 'our genitals are private and we don't take off our clothes in public".

My thoughts exactly. I remember being a little older than this (around 7 or 8) and "playing doctor" with My sister, her best friend, and my best friend. The four of us never really tought about it being anything special.
 
This makes me uncomfortable . . .

All children are naturally curious, of course. It's easier if there are brothers/sisters in the same household because then there are possible opportunities to "notice" the differences in boys and girls.

But - to have sanctioned exploratory sessions at a school location? I'm not too sure about that. I'm not too sure if children are even READY for that. I think they could be told the differences, see pictures in books, etc., but not go "hands on" quite yet.

Our daughter was 3 when our son was born. We were quite specific and matter-of-fact about what was going on. She had no problems accepting it. (There are terrific books out there - Mommy Laid an Egg is a blast - it is very explicit yet humorous and takes things down to the basic level). Right after he was born and our family came into the room, we showed our daughter the baby first (pulled back the blanket) and she got to tell everyone, "It's a boy!" She knew what to look for! LOL

Interesting question posed! For me, it requires some additional thought!!
 
Fuck that.. those parents need a psych eval. My kids know where babies come from, how babies are made, and that privates are privates.. and that's that.

Are they going to set up a tent for when their teen wants to learn how to have sex too? :rolleyes:
 
Wow. No. Wow. Just NO.

That does not seem healthy in anyway. It seems CREEPY AS FUCK.

I played doctor with a boy that lived down the street when I was maybe 5 or 6. We just got naked and looked at eachother and giggled a lot. lol Very innocent.

BUT when my mom found out she talked to me about privacy and how your body is natural and beautiful but private.

The idea that kids could go to school and have a supervised place to do this? What kind of message is that sending? That it's natural? Yes, but also that being naked with and touching the opposite sex at any age is accpetable. It's not. What are these parents going to say when their kids get older and start having sex at 11 and 12 with the kids they explored at 5? When do they step in and say "Ok, you have to keep your clothes on now", and how on earth do they expect their kids to accept that?
 
Okay, it isn't just me then. I thought this was a wacky idea, too. Especially since the parents of the kids came up with it in the first place! Creepy is a good description.
 
NO.. I wouldn't want my kids exposed to something like this..

but is there a grown up tent for just the parents? :D
 
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freakygurl said:
NO.. I wouldn't want my kids exposed to something like this..

but is there a grown up tent for just the parents? :D

Yup, Freaky, just step right over here, and I'll lift the falp.
 
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freakygurl said:
it's not my mind.. it's my jiggly boobs. ;)



Samuari ;) what is a falp?

An excellent example of why you should have payed attention when you played doctor. Step into the tent and I'll show you.
 
Holy Crapweasel! This is the Michael Jackson Pre-School Center, is it??

Yes, it's normal for kids to play doctor. I did it with a neighbor girl down the street (who later became one of my best friends and was isntrumental in my becoming a police dispatcher, but that's another story), but you both grow out of it and should have parents who can redirect that curiosity into healthy and more mannered learning.

What's happening at this preschool is beyond creepy. I very nearly thought you were kidding about this, Cheyenne. There are actually people with whom you've spoken there that think this is just a marvy idea???
 
I remember growing up....

Kindergarden it was acceptable for the boys to play kissing tag knocking the girls down and stealing their kiss, invited or not.


Later ass grabs and boob squeezes were shrugged off as boys will be boys and a little pat on the hand to the offenders.

These were ways of exploring developing sexuality and gender roles but they involved a pattern that I see as leading to date rape and other demeaning attitude toward women. There was a sense of no doesn't mean "no."

I remember playing "date" with a 1st grade friend. We'd actually give these little pecks good night on the lips in the spirit of make believe. But we'd deny our play when adults came near out of a sense that it would not be tolerated even though I think it was totally harmless play. We were shamed by our curiosity even though we still explored it. Hell, I didn't even end up bi as some parents might've feared. (No criticism intended.)


I can see how parents might go to an extreme approach to avoid setting their kids up for the shame and low self-esteem that can develop when sexist attitudes develop unchecked. I find a tent "for" playing doctor a bit extreme but I would agree with explaining to young ones that that is a personal sharing that should be done in private and not in public and that there is no shame in it. It is natural curiosity.

So while extreme there is some progress in these parents attitudes even though my approach might not be so encouraging to "doctor play" I certainly would not curtail it.

I might even suggest the girl be the doctor and the boy be the nurse.;)

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JazzManJim said:

What's happening at this preschool is beyond creepy. I very nearly thought you were kidding about this, Cheyenne. There are actually people with whom you've spoken there that think this is just a marvy idea???

Nope, just the people in the article it seems. Looks like the posts here are decidedly against the idea.

I read this yesterday and started to wonder if society had changed that much to make a tent for playing doctor a great idea. I just didn't see it. I know we are trying to be more open with sex education these days, but that tent idea is just weird. I figured if there was anyplace where there would be people with open ideas towards new methods of sex education (using that phrase loosely) it would be here at Lit. But you all seem to agree with me for a change. That tent is a horrible idea.
 
I don't know that it is creepy so much as I think it is silly and stupid for the reasons others have pointed out. Silly to not come up with a more mature method of handling the situation as others have suggested, stupid because not only are we talking lawsuit, in some (many) locales we are talking criminal proceedings. I can just see the headlines now. I think such a response would be greatly overblown, but I don't think it is a stretch to say if could happen.

I think the parents in this situation, assuming this is a real situation, overcompensated a bit for their own childhood. I find it hard to believe that this was real though and not some made up story - surely there would be some parents in the group that would dissent and report the situation to authorities. It sounds like a prelude to one of those pedophilia fiction stories you find elsewhere on the internet where everybody, pedophile and victim are willing, cognizant of what is going on and they all live happily ever after. Yeah right. :rolleyes:
 
The Heretic said:

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It sounds like a prelude to one of those pedophilia fiction stories you find elsewhere on the internet where everybody, pedophile and victim are willing, cognizant of what is going on and they all live happily ever after. Yeah right. :rolleyes:


Where's the pedophilia connection?
 
The Heretic said:
I find it hard to believe that this was real though and not some made up story - surely there would be some parents in the group that would dissent and report the situation to authorities. It sounds like a prelude to one of those pedophilia fiction stories you find elsewhere on the internet where everybody, pedophile and victim are willing, cognizant of what is going on and they all live happily ever after. Yeah right. :rolleyes:

Check out the link, it is actually an advice column person writing this while answering a parent's question about a son who plays doctor! It is on i village, or something like that.
 
I think it's an excellent idea.

I remember reading maybe this very same essay in a parenting book sometime ago. I couldn't find a source to this link though.

I thought it was a good idea the first time I read it and I still do.

Kids are very curious about the human body. Why not provide a safe environment, free of shame, to explore that?
 
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