Planned Parenthood Annual Report: Record Number Of Babies Killed In 2011, Record-High

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[BotanyBoy]

The "SHIT" they do get from the government is predicated on No DADS IN THE HOME.

I understand...doesn't make it any less the pile of bullshit that it is. Women have 100% complete control and say so over reproduction, they should be solely responsible for the decisions they make.

 

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[Voodoo5150]

Hey Busybody, how goes that whole trying to control every aspect of women's lives going?

You'd have better luck moving to Pakistan, Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia.

Oh, you don't like brown people? Well, too bad.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They aren't. You fuck one who tells you she's on birth control, and she isn't and you knock her up, you are responsible.

It's some buu shit isn't it.

Wish I could have my cake and eat it too....

 

[julybaby04]

I hear you, my sister and I are perfect examples (which is why she told me to watch it).

When we were 13-14 neither of our parent's could support both of us very well nor afford courts/lawyers so sis went to live with mom and I went to live with dad. Fucked both of us up, and caused a shit storm spanning some 6-8 years.

She is the totally empathetic communicator, and a lazy as hell underachieving procrastinator. 10 years to get her BS....but she has a really great man and a wonderful home full of love and all that warm fuzzy shit.

Me? borderline sociopath...I won the Army game, went to schools most will never even see and did shit no one will hear about and it was fucking bad ass, I will never again do anything that fucking cool. To top it off I even finished my degree in biology in 3 1/2 years immediately after retirement from the Army. With WA opening up I'm on the tip of the spear, no better opportunity for my industry than right now...I have no doubt I will carve my self out quite a niche and kick ass, it's what I do.

But I couldn't maintain anything beyond a casual friendship and apparently not any sort of romantic or even really tight platonic relationship if my life depended on it, any sort of positiveness or affection and I block people out. It's knee jerk for me to do it and nearly impossible for me to stop. I'm not bitching, I have accepted it and realized I'm just one of those people who is better off going at the whole life bit alone.

But not having a parent around most definitely has negative effects on the kids, and some positive too depending on how you look at it.

Great reasons for two parent families. No doubt that this is becoming less and less of the norm....but if possible, having both is great for the children.

 

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[BotanyBoy]

Great reasons for two parent families. No doubt that this is becoming less and less of the norm....but if possible, having both is great for the children.

I'm not disputing it....but I'm also saying if there is no abuse/neglect it's none of the governments fucking business how people chose to raise their kids either. Even the fucked up kids who didn't get the best all around ideal up bringing adapt and find the way to their own role in the world and most do just fine. It's also important to keep in mind that everything in that Discovery documentary was under the context of "on average" or "in general" meaning most fall into these groups but as always there are exceptions to the rule.

My brother in law for example, Computer Sci/Electrical Engineering guru makes DAMN good money, nicest guy you will ever meet, great communicator, but he isn't a bitch and won't put up with any shit either, fairly good looking, cool car etc. the guy fucking has it all. Total epitome of all around awesome person...he makes my sister love life like I have never seen, become a dear friend/loved one and I can't speak highly enough of him.

Parents split when he was like 6 or 7...raised by mom.

And the girl we all know (there is at least one in every town) who grew up in a picture perfect home/family...church 2x a week, straight A's....and either off's herself of goes total meth/coke whore.

There is no certainty or exactness to raising children into good productive members of society. Which is why I say outside of abuse/neglect (wherever society decides to draw that line) gov needs to fuck off....just GTFO, none of their business.

Also I can't stand the funding of fuck trophies...you chose to have it, you fucking deal with it.

 

[julybaby04]

I'm not disputing it....but I'm also saying if there is no abuse/neglect it's none of the governments fucking business how people chose to raise their kids either. Even the fucked up kids who didn't get the best all around ideal up bringing adapt and find the way to their own role in the world and most do just fine. It's also important to keep in mind that everything in that Discovery documentary was under the context of "on average" or "in general" meaning most fall into these groups but as always there are exceptions to the rule.

My brother in law for example, Computer Sci/Electrical Engineering guru makes DAMN good money, nicest guy you will ever meet, great communicator, but he isn't a bitch and won't put up with any shit either, fairly good looking, cool car etc. the guy fucking has it all. Total epitome of all around awesome person...he makes my sister love life like I have never seen, become a dear friend/loved one and I can't speak highly enough of him.

Parents split when he was like 6 or 7...raised by mom.

And the girl we all know (there is at least one in every town) who grew up in a picture perfect home/family...church 2x a week, straight A's....and either off's herself of goes total meth/coke whore.

There is no certainty or exactness to raising children into good productive members of society. Which is why I say outside of abuse/neglect (wherever society decides to draw that line) gov needs to fuck off....just GTFO, none of their business.

Also I can't stand the funding of fuck trophies...you chose to have it, you fucking deal with it.

I agree....never a guarantee, no matter what the family life was of a child.

I will say, being the place I have worked for the last 9 months, this topic is very close to me. We are not PP ....we are the "other people". Seeing the women who come in for help....some incredibly remorseful for the situation their life is now in....and others...could absolutely care less. The one's that don't care are the hardest to deal with as one told me "more babies I have, more money I get". THAT sentiment is very hard to stomach.

 

[Busybody]

Poll: 58% Of Americans Believe Abortion Is “Morally Wrong,” 83% Favor Laws To Restrict Abortion…




Excellent.


(January 10, 2013) — A new Marist poll conducted for the Knights of Columbus reveals that 83% of Americans favor significant limitations on what is now essentially abortion on demand. That is up 4 points from last year.

A total of 56% of respondents believe either that abortion should never be permitted (10%), allowed only to save the life of the mother (12%), or only in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother (34%).

The telephone survey of 1,246 adults conducted in early December found that 27% would limit abortion to the first three months of pregnancy, at most. Another 6% would allow abortion during the first six months of pregnancy while only 11% would allow abortion at any time.

Nearly 6 in 10 Americans (58%) also believe abortion is “morally wrong.” And in many ways perhaps most important of all, a full 84% of Americans say laws can protect both mothers and unborn children.

 

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[LadyVer]

Poll: 58% Of Americans Believe Abortion Is “Morally Wrong,” 83% Favor Laws To Restrict Abortion…

Excellent.

(January 10, 2013) — A new Marist poll conducted for the Knights of Columbus reveals that 83% of Americans favor significant limitations on what is now essentially abortion on demand. That is up 4 points from last year.

A total of 56% of respondents believe either that abortion should never be permitted (10%), allowed only to save the life of the mother (12%), or only in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother (34%).

The telephone survey of 1,246 adults conducted in early December found that 27% would limit abortion to the first three months of pregnancy, at most. Another 6% would allow abortion during the first six months of pregnancy while only 11% would allow abortion at any time.

Nearly 6 in 10 Americans (58%) also believe abortion is “morally wrong.” And in many ways perhaps most important of all, a full 84% of Americans say laws can protect both mothers and unborn children.

The bottom line, Einstein, is that abortions shoud be available for women if they decide they need one, especially in cases of rape or medical health, without having to prove anything or jump through hoops to get one, or dying in a Catholic hospital because a church has decided the mother's life means jack shit. Now go peddle your expertise on women back on the fetish thread. They may put up with it there.

 

[julybaby04]

The bottom line, Einstein, is that abortions shoud be available for women if they decide they need one, especially in cases of rape or medical health, without having to prove anything or jump through hoops to get one, or dying in a Catholic hospital because a church has decided the mother's life means jack shit. Now go peddle your expertise on women back on the fetish thread. They may put up with it there.

Sadly, most do not have the abortions for the reasons you list being medical or rape. Most have them because being pregnant is an inconvenience to them and was the result of a mistake one night (or day, or whenever).

Almost all have them because they do not view it as a real baby...a human life. It is only something to be disposed of on a whim so they can move on with their life and the plans they had.....just another form of birth control.

 

[LadyVer]

Sadly, most do not have the abortions for the reasons you list being medical or rape. Most have them because being pregnant is an inconvenience to them and was the result of a mistake one night (or day, or whenever).

Almost all have them because they do not view it as a real baby...a human life. It is only something to be disposed of on a whim so they can move on with their life and the plans they had.....just another form of birth control.

July, I said especially in those cases. I wasn't excluding anything. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that should be between her and her doctor. I don't know any women who have had abortions, for any reason, who view it as another form of birth control. Not saying there aren't any but that I believe it would be a very small number. Nor do I know any women who have had abortions who wanted a repeat if they didn't have to. There will always be exceptions. And as usual, we'll probably have to agree to disagree on these issues.

 

[RoryN]

Dear LadyVer,

Have you given vetteman and BUSYBODY a dual handjob yet?

Vegas odds say "yes". We need an answer; kthx.

Sincerely,
The Forum

 

[LadyVer]

Dear LadyVer,

Have you given vetteman and BUSYBODY a dual handjob yet?

Vegas odds say "yes". We need an answer; kthx.

Sincerely,
The Forum

That's so sweet of you to be so curious, Rory. A true gentleman you are. A lady never kisses and tells. But the real question is this: Is it any of your business what I do and who I do it with? Of course not..So I can only imagine that you're jealous. I'm not sure who of yet. Please convey my answer to your pack. Thank you.




PS When you grow up pm me.

 

[RoryN]

That's so sweet of you to be so curious, Rory. A true gentleman you are. A lady never kisses and tells. But the real question is this: Is it any of your business what I do and who I do it with?

I figured I would ask, since you spread your cooz all over this board's scum for everyone to see, daily. So, it's the business of anyone who reads it.

Based on your question back to me, I'll assume the answer is "yes".

So I can only imagine that you're jealous.

You having a limited imagination comes as no surprise.

 

[LadyVer]

I figured I would ask, since you spread your cooz all over this board's scum for everyone to see, daily. So, it's the business of anyone who reads it.

Based on your question back to me, I'll assume the answer is "yes".


You having a limited imagination comes as no surprise.

Dear one, the easiest answer to your problem is to ig me. Silly guy.

xo

 

[RoryN]

Dear one, the easiest answer to your problem is to ig me.

You assume I have a problem.

I don't - I have a target.

 

[LadyVer]

You assume I have a problem.

I don't - I have a target.

xo.....

 

[julybaby04]

July, I said especially in those cases. I wasn't excluding anything. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that should be between her and her doctor. I don't know any women who have had abortions, for any reason, who view it as another form of birth control. Not saying there aren't any but that I believe it would be a very small number. Nor do I know any women who have had abortions who wanted a repeat if they didn't have to. There will always be exceptions. And as usual, we'll probably have to agree to disagree on these issues.

I will have to disagree. I work at a pregnancy test center. There are 9 paid workers and the rest of the 173 are volunteers, which I am one. I work there every single week and women come in every single week.

Yes, you have the ones that did have sex that one time and are pregnant. But we also have women who come in multiple times as in 10 plus times, etc. They come to us as our services are free. The local health department charges $15.00 for a pregnancy test.

There are many who choose not to abort. We also have some that choose to place their babies up for adoption. But we do have those who choose to abort (which we do not do). We have women who keep coming in......and keep aborting.

I deal with this exact thing every single week. Either I personally, or through our continued training hear about the women who come to our facility.

Perhaps where you are or those around you do not choose abortion as a form of birth control, but I would almost bet that it happens much more than you know. There are millions of abortion performed in this country....and a very tiny percentage are for medical reasons or rape.

...like I said, most are just because women have been taught that the baby is not yet a baby.....and because we have 2 ultrasounds and 4 doctors who give up their time and volunteer at our facility, we can do u/s as early as 5 weeks.....and there is a heartbeat.....that baby is very real.....and very much a human being.

Yes, we will disagree.....but I see it every single week.

 

[fgarvb1]

It is a strange nation we have become...Kill by gun is Bad.

Kill by Abortion, Good.

 

[RoryN]

It is a strange nation we have become...Kill by gun is Bad.

Kill by Abortion, Good.

You have the I.Q. of M.Y.

 

[julybaby04]

It is a strange nation we have become...Kill by gun is Bad.

Kill by Abortion, Good.

Could not agree more! I guess it just depends "when" the murder is done....before birth or after....

 

[LadyVer]

I will have to disagree. I work at a pregnancy test center. There are 9 paid workers and the rest of the 173 are volunteers, which I am one. I work there every single week and women come in every single week.

Yes, you have the ones that did have sex that one time and are pregnant. But we also have women who come in multiple times as in 10 plus times, etc. They come to us as our services are free. The local health department charges $15.00 for a pregnancy test.

There are many who choose not to abort. We also have some that choose to place their babies up for adoption. But we do have those who choose to abort (which we do not do). We have women who keep coming in......and keep aborting.

I deal with this exact thing every single week. Either I personally, or through our continued training hear about the women who come to our facility.

Perhaps where you are or those around you do not choose abortion as a form of birth control, but I would almost bet that it happens much more than you know. There are millions of abortion performed in this country....and a very tiny percentage are for medical reasons or rape.

...like I said, most are just because women have been taught that the baby is not yet a baby.....and because we have 2 ultrasounds and 4 doctors who give up their time and volunteer at our facility, we can do u/s as early as 5 weeks.....and there is a heartbeat.....that baby is very real.....and very much a human being.

Yes, we will disagree.....but I see it every single week.

July, we will have to agree to disagree. I don't know what the stats are for reasons for abortion. It would be a perfect world where no abortions occurred. But this is not a perfect world and to expect any woman to continue a pregnancy who doesn't have either the emotional, mental, phycical or financial resources to handle it is unrealistic..No one wants their tax dollars to cover abortions but at the same time no one wants their tax dollars to pay for those pregnant women who want to keep their babies. I'm talking about women with no money. And at the same time sex education is in the schools is seen as immoral and frivolous and contraception is considered the same way. The perfect answer would be no sex unless one can afford the consequences. But again, this is not a perfect world.