PC or MAC ?

[kimbalee]

you know jo May is offical Zombie awareness month, got your gray ribbon on? :>

hahahaha. nice.

 

[jomar]

you know jo May is offical Zombie awareness month, got your gray ribbon on? :>

Aye!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

And Then There Was A Solid Gold iPad

What I wanna know is this...how do you show it off and use it without keeping it from getting scratched?

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/05/500x_gold-ipad.jpg

On the 107th day, Stuart Hughes revealed the solid gold iPad. With 53 diamonds set in the Apple logo, and the casing crafted from 22ct gold, 10 lucky people can snap one up—for $189,000.

$189,000!!!

 

[Austin8]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=706295

This is a thread of intrest to us not sure exactly what to make of it yet.

 

[driphoney]

Okay. I have a question and I'm feeling a little silly, but it's starting to frustrate me beyond belief so I need to get it sorted out.

I'm buried in a sea of back-up copies. Where do these come from? What should I do about these? I never saw this weird phenomena on my PC. Last night, as I lay down in my bed, as soon as the eyes closed, this scene came to me. Next thing I know, it's an hour later and I'm hunting and hunting and hunting for my latest, greatest version.

I never did find it in my documents file. I did find nearly a dozen 'backup' and 'backup of backup' copies. Where I did manage to find it was in the little Documents pop-out window thingy (pardon me, I really don't know computer-ese. )

Any recommendations on what I can do?

Thanks.

 

[sdsioux]

Okay. I have a question and I'm feeling a little silly, but it's starting to frustrate me beyond belief so I need to get it sorted out.

I'm buried in a sea of back-up copies. Where do these come from? What should I do about these? I never saw this weird phenomena on my PC. Last night, as I lay down in my bed, as soon as the eyes closed, this scene came to me. Next thing I know, it's an hour later and I'm hunting and hunting and hunting for my latest, greatest version.

I never did find it in my documents file. I did find nearly a dozen 'backup' and 'backup of backup' copies. Where I did manage to find it was in the little Documents pop-out window thingy (pardon me, I really don't know computer-ese. )

Any recommendations on what I can do?

Thanks.

I always save my material to my desktop that way I can always find it easily. When I'm finished with the particular story or whatever you can back it up onto a flash drive which will hold an incredible amount of written material for a cost of $15 for a 4 gig one. When you start a new story just take and put the older document into the documents file. Now you have it in two places so if something happens to one your material is protected.

Personally I might have switched to Mac but I started with Windows 95 and really don't want to make the effort to learn a new system which in my opinion is superior. I recently got Windows 7 and I will say its an improvement that was a long time coming for Microsoft.

 

[driphoney]

I always save my material to my desktop that way I can always find it easily. When I'm finished with the particular story or whatever you can back it up onto a flash drive which will hold an incredible amount of written material for a cost of $15 for a 4 gig one. When you start a new story just take and put the older document into the documents file. Now you have it in two places so if something happens to one your material is protected.

Personally I might have switched to Mac but I started with Windows 95 and really don't want to make the effort to learn a new system which in my opinion is superior. I recently got Windows 7 and I will say its an improvement that was a long time coming for Microsoft.

Thanks.

I'm not intentionally backing this up. I just go to my documents and voila! It's there! And there, and there, and there! It's mind-boggling. This never happened on my PC.

I'm hoping someone can tell me why this is happening, and how I can change it/fix it.

As a temporary fix, so I can find this particular version, I've created a file just for it, and renamed it. But as soon as I start working on it and saving it, this is going to start all over again. I just plan to keep re-naming until I sort the problem out.

Saving to a flash drive is a good idea. I have a lot of old material on a flash. I often email my chapters to myself, so I have them "saved" there. Hmm. Note to self: email latest, greatest version ....

ETA: I feel like I've brought this problem up here before, but for some reason, either I didn't learn from my errant ways, can't recall, didn't really solve the real issue. If this is all redundant, please accept my apologies.

 

[sdsioux]

Thanks.

I'm not intentionally backing this up. I just go to my documents and voila! It's there! And there, and there, and there! It's mind-boggling. This never happened on my PC.

I'm hoping someone can tell me why this is happening, and how I can change it/fix it.

As a temporary fix, so I can find this particular version, I've created a file just for it, and renamed it. But as soon as I start working on it and saving it, this is going to start all over again. I just plan to keep re-naming until I sort the problem out.

Saving to a flash drive is a good idea. I have a lot of old material on a flash. I often email my chapters to myself, so I have them "saved" there. Hmm. Note to self: email latest, greatest version ....

ETA: I feel like I've brought this problem up here before, but for some reason, either I didn't learn from my errant ways, can't recall, didn't really solve the real issue. If this is all redundant, please accept my apologies.

The computer is doing it automatically. It honestly takes up so little room on your hard drive don't worry about it. I'm assuming of course that you've got a newer Mac. In the old old old days you could put a novel on a floppy disk which was 1.44 mg. When I work in photoshop with a picture from my digital camera the file size is 30 mg. and that is for one the equivalent of 20 novels. If I save one CD compressed it takes up 100mg of space on my hard drive. A movie is 4 gigs. If you save a lot of films this could fill up your hard drive quickly. I'd guess your machine has 250 gigs. Remember a gig is a thousand mgs so in rough numbers that would be a 1000 novels. I'm not talking down to you only trying to explain. Hope this helps you. The idea of the backup is to be able to recover lost information. Ex... Back in the 90's I once like an idiot wrote for about two hours and didn't backup which you had to do manually. There was a power surge and I lost electricity for just a few seconds which was long enough for my 10 or so pages to be lost. Backup is goooooooood

 

[driphoney]

The computer is doing it automatically. It honestly takes up so little room on your hard drive don't worry about it. I'm assuming of course that you've got a newer Mac. In the old old old days you could put a novel on a floppy disk which was 1.44 mg. When I work in photoshop with a picture from my digital camera the file size is 30 mg. and that is for one the equivalent of 20 novels. If I save one CD compressed it takes up 100mg of space on my hard drive. A movie is 4 gigs. If you save a lot of films this could fill up your hard drive quickly. I'd guess your machine has 250 gigs. Remember a gig is a thousand mgs so in rough numbers that would be a 1000 novels. I'm not talking down to you only trying to explain. Hope this helps you. The idea of the backup is to be able to recover lost information. Ex... Back in the 90's I once like an idiot wrote for about two hours and didn't backup which you had to do manually. There was a power surge and I lost electricity for just a few seconds which was long enough for my 10 or so pages to be lost. Backup is goooooooood

But my document file is a mess!! All these backups are intermingled with 'real' copies. I think what I had done, unwittingly, with this latest added content was open a back-up version, so it wasn't saved on the original, which is buried way down below the dozen or so backups of the same crap! Copy after copy after copy.

Can this truly be normal? How do people deal with all the clutter?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

But my document file is a mess!! All these backups are intermingled with 'real' copies. I think what I had done, unwittingly, with this latest added content was open a back-up version, so it wasn't saved on the original, which is buried way down below the dozen or so backups of the same crap! Copy after copy after copy.

Can this truly be normal? How do people deal with all the clutter?

PC's don't do what you describe so there is really no clutter...you are using a Mac and there is probably a way to turn that feature off, but you will have to talk to a Mac users who knows what's going on.

Also, you might try organizing you documents folder by creating sub-folders.

I have a MyStories folder under the Documents folder and under the MyStories folder I have a folder for each story I am working on. I also have a Published folder so when a story is published I can just drag the folder to the Published folder. Kind of makes things a little neater.

 

[sdsioux]

There is a free program called CC cleaner (go to File Hippo and download it) It will delete all of the temporary files you've created. I think it is saving your work every 10 minutes or so. Give that a try and see if it helps. As long as you know where you save your original to a desktop, flash memory, or whatever you'll be ok. How many gigs is your harddrive?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

But my document file is a mess!! All these backups are intermingled with 'real' copies. I think what I had done, unwittingly, with this latest added content was open a back-up version, so it wasn't saved on the original, which is buried way down below the dozen or so backups of the same crap! Copy after copy after copy.

Can this truly be normal? How do people deal with all the clutter?

Ayuh, sounds a lil' quirky. Never happened to me, even on the old school Macs, except for multiple fonts. I can't tell what's going on by the way you've described it. I'd have to actually look at your desktop, your backup settings and/or your process of saving.

Are you running Snow Lep? The only backups I have are hourly ones thru TimeMachine and those go to an external HD specifically for that purpose, no overlaying multiples or anything like that.

 

[sdsioux]

It's backing up just like Office 2010. It does it without you asking. I would just ignore it. It isn't like it is saving 100's of files on your desktop. You have to go into the computer to find them.

 

[driphoney]

There is a free program called CC cleaner (go to File Hippo and download it) It will delete all of the temporary files you've created. I think it is saving your work every 10 minutes or so. Give that a try and see if it helps. As long as you know where you save your original to a desktop, flash memory, or whatever you'll be ok. How many gigs is your harddrive?

First off, I'm way out of my depth even trying to talk about this stuff. Part of the reason I got a Mac was because I'm such a computer doofus.

If I'm reading it right, I have 122.82 GB available and 25.91 used. This is a MacBook Pro.

Oddly, I thought it had auto-save, but have actually lost work due to thinking that was the case, when it's not.

I thought "saving" was different from "backing up"?

Ayuh, sounds a lil' quirky. Never happened to me, even on the old school Macs, except for multiple fonts. I can't tell what's going on by the way you've described it. I'd have to actually look at your desktop, your backup settings and/or your process of saving.

Are you running Snow Lep? The only backups I have are hourly ones thru TimeMachine and those go to an external HD specifically for that purpose, no overlaying multiples or anything like that.

What's Snow Lep? And, there are backup settings?

How I save is usually just trying to remember to go to file|save once in a while. I always save when I close the document I'm working on. If I forget, it always asks me and I say yes. I save more often than the back-ups I have for each document.

I could do Time Machine, but I can't figure it out.

All I do on this computer is write papers, and play on the internet.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

First off, I'm way out of my depth even trying to talk about this stuff. Part of the reason I got a Mac was because I'm such a computer doofus.

If I'm reading it right, I have 122.82 GB available and 25.91 used. This is a MacBook Pro.

Oddly, I thought it had auto-save, but have actually lost work due to thinking that was the case, when it's not.

I thought "saving" was different from "backing up"?



What's Snow Lep? And, there are backup settings?

How I save is usually just trying to remember to go to file|save once in a while. I always save when I close the document I'm working on. If I forget, it always asks me and I say yes. I save more often than the back-ups I have for each document.

I could do Time Machine, but I can't figure it out.

All I do on this computer is write papers, and play on the internet.

No, you got it right. "Saving" is more of an individually specific action done in a program, while "backing up" is more of a overall maintenance and prevention action.

Snow Leopard is the latest OS. It is saaaahwwwwweeeet. It streamlines everything, is tighter, has a smaller disc space, better interface, etc. I have had no problems and no crashing once I installed that. Not that it happened much before, but I would punk out every time I got a Svengali complex and tried to run 20 programs plus an aircraft carrier at once.

TimeMachine is the beez kneez. Basically it just automatically backs up everything on and in your computer, not to mention saving the placement of where you had things on your desktop...and in case of a system punking, you can just go back in time to the last saved version — or even a version saved a week ago — and restore what was there at that specific time (how it visually does this is so fucking cool, like doing hyperspace through a Star Trek galaxy.) It runs in the background and is totally innocuous. To be honest, I haven't had a situation where I've had to apply it after a system crash, but it's nice knowing that it's there, because nothing is forever and I like knowing that everything I've got going on is saved in a portable Iron Man-chassis hard drive. It's simple to set up and if you have an external with a size that matches your internal, you can put it to good use.

 

[driphoney]

It's backing up just like Office 2010. It does it without you asking. I would just ignore it. It isn't like it is saving 100's of files on your desktop. You have to go into the computer to find them.

I just saw this message.

I'm not going out of my way to find them. When I open my pages thingy (file? program? See? I'm such a ditz!) and hit Open Existing, I'm directed to where the files are listed. Even though they're piling up, and I don't really understand what the point is since it's all on my hard-drive, I'm probably going to have to do as you say and just ignore them.

Oddly, I only have backups of documents I've specifically work on on this computer, everything else that I brought over to it has no backup.

Thanks.

 

[sdsioux]

Saving is used when you have worked on a document for 15 minutes and you want to save what you have written. A safe way to do this is to save the entire document, let it close and then re-open it.
backing up is all of the information you have on your hard drive being copied.

Over the years I've purchased some of the ..... for dummies series. It might be a good source for information.

Computers are a pain sometimes. I can understand your frustration.

 

[driphoney]

No, you got it right. "Saving" is more of an individually specific action done in a program, while "backing up" is more of a overall maintenance and prevention action.

Snow Leopard is the latest OS. It is saaaahwwwwweeeet. It streamlines everything, is tighter, has a smaller disc space, better interface, etc. I have had no problems and no crashing once I installed that. Not that it happened much before, but I would punk out every time I got a Svengali complex and tried to run 20 programs plus an aircraft carrier at once.

TimeMachine is the beez kneez. Basically it just automatically backs up everything on and in your computer, not to mention saving the placement of where you had things on your desktop...and in case of a system punking, you can just go back in time to the last saved version — or even a version saved a week ago — and restore what was there at that specific time (how it visually does this is so fucking cool, like doing hyperspace through a Star Trek galaxy.) It runs in the background and is totally innocuous. To be honest, I haven't had a situation where I've had to apply it after a system crash, but it's nice knowing that it's there, because nothing is forever and I like knowing that everything I've got going on is saved in a portable Iron Man-chassis hard drive. It's simple to set up and if you have an external with a size that matches your internal, you can put it to good use.

*blink*

*close gapping jaw*

*blink*




I'm soooooo lost.

 

[TxRad]

*blink*

*close gapping jaw*

*blink*




I'm soooooo lost.

Take a deep breathe and let it out slow. Ahhhhhhhh.

All writing programs back up or auto save every so often. Under options or setup in the program is a tab for auto save and or backup. Go take a look and see how you have it set up. Auto save, saves the copy you are working on in the background in most cases so you keep the same file.

Auto backup makes a new file and stores it where you tell it to. There is usually a box that you can browse and put it in a file for whatever you are working on or just a backup file.

Take a deep breathe and check your settings.

ETA: I'd be more specific but I haven't even touched a Mac in ten years . Nothing against Mac's but I switched to Linux on everything but this laptop.

 

[driphoney]

Take a deep breathe and let it out slow. Ahhhhhhhh.

All writing programs back up or auto save every so often. Under options or setup in the program is a tab for auto save and or backup. Go take a look and see how you have it set up. Auto save, saves the copy you are working on in the background in most cases so you keep the same file.

Auto backup makes a new file and stores it where you tell it to. There is usually a box that you can browse and put it in a file for whatever you are working on or just a backup file.

Take a deep breathe and check your settings.

ETA: I'd be more specific but I haven't even touched a Mac in ten years . Nothing against Mac's but I switched to Linux on everything but this laptop.

*inhaling ..........*
*exhaling ........ *

Okay. I see nothing called Options, but I do vaguely recall seeing it on my old PC.

However.

That did get me digging. I think I found the culprit. With Pages (Mac's version of Word) open, I went to Pages | Preferences | General Preferences, then there was a checked option for "Backup previous version when saving."

Perhaps this is why I have so many copies of older versions ... or not.

Oddly, I couldn't find anywhere to choose or un-choose or regulate auto-save. Must be tucked away somewhere else.

Now I must decide whether it's a good thing or not to backup old versions. It's all going onto the same hard-drive, so is there a point to it? I must be missing something.

Thanks everyone.

 

[TxRad]

*inhaling ..........*
*exhaling ........ *

Okay. I see nothing called Options, but I do vaguely recall seeing it on my old PC.

However.

That did get me digging. I think I found the culprit. With Pages (Mac's version of Word) open, I went to Pages | Preferences | General Preferences, then there was a checked option for "Backup previous version when saving."

Perhaps this is why I have so many copies of older versions ... or not.

Oddly, I couldn't find anywhere to choose or un-choose or regulate auto-save. Must be tucked away somewhere else.

Now I must decide whether it's a good thing or not to backup old versions. It's all going onto the same hard-drive, so is there a point to it? I must be missing something.

Thanks everyone.

That's the culprit and why you have so many copies. Is there a way of telling it where to save the backups? If so make a folder for them.

 

[driphoney]

That's the culprit and why you have so many copies. Is there a way of telling it where to save the backups? If so make a folder for them.

I'm able to click the check mark beside the option or unclick it. No other options given. It appears in my Documents file. Since I never even see it happening . . . hmm. Just thought of something. I think it's backing up to whatever file I put the original document in. I'll go check.

ETA: Yep. It's backed up to where the original is saved. After that, it's alphabetized, so since backup starts with "B", it's the most obnoxious, dominant thing in each folder.

I don't understand why I'll have two versions of the same, identical document. Seems that each one would have more and more material . . . hmmm . . . maybe when I open and stare and stare and stare at a document (this is my story I'm mostly concerned with here) and then come up with nothing new to add, then attempt to close it, it asks, "Do you want to save changes?" And I always think, "Holy Hell! Did I actually write something I forgot about?!?" and being cautious, because it doesn't always ask me that question when I'm closing, I hit "Hell, yeah! Save it!"

It's a thought. *shrug*

 

[TxRad]

I'm able to click the check mark beside the option or unclick it. No other options given. It appears in my Documents file. Since I never even see it happening . . . hmm. Just thought of something. I think it's backing up to whatever file I put the original document in. I'll go check.

You might PM 3113, she's a bit of a Mac Guru.

 

[driphoney]

You might PM 3113, she's a bit of a Mac Guru.

Okay. I'll just wait until I see her around . . . then swoop in on her.

 

[sdsioux]

*inhaling ..........*
*exhaling ........ *

Okay. I see nothing called Options, but I do vaguely recall seeing it on my old PC.

However.

That did get me digging. I think I found the culprit. With Pages (Mac's version of Word) open, I went to Pages | Preferences | General Preferences, then there was a checked option for "Backup previous version when saving."

Perhaps this is why I have so many copies of older versions ... or not.

Oddly, I couldn't find anywhere to choose or un-choose or regulate auto-save. Must be tucked away somewhere else.

Now I must decide whether it's a good thing or not to backup old versions. It's all going onto the same hard-drive, so is there a point to it? I must be missing something.

Thanks everyone.

What you're missing is the fact that if you accidently delete the original by mistake you'll have a backup of it. What you're thinking is if the hard drive crashes what is the point. In that case you'll lose it all. The other point is the fact that it takes up no space at all. The autosave is a good thing. One day you'll be happy you have it.