PC or MAC ?

[IrezumiKiss]

100-Year-Old Woman Composes Limerick On iPad

Apple's marketers have suggested that the iPad is great for the elderly (in addition to anyone fascinated by "magical" devices). Now here's the evidence: Video of 100-year-old Virginia Campbell learning to use the iPad, her first computer.

http://jezebel.com/5522786/100+year+old-woman-composes-limerick-on-ipad

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/4/23/11/grandmas-no-3514-1272035986-23.jpg

 

[fifty5]

An interesting question, but...

Since MacOSx, macs run under Linux (though it's buried deep out of sight). PCs can run under Doze, or visibly, under Linux. There's a third way...

In practice, I use PCs in both ways: the server runs Linux, my laptop runs Doze XP.

Why, you may ask. The answer is pure laziness (plus Doze lock-down).

My platform of preference is a desk-top running Linux - it's just better! However, my desk-top work station folded: hardware failure. What did survive was the Lenovo lap-top I'm using right now. I can use Putty to log into the server and do what I need to do in a text 'window' - jstar is a Wordstar compatible editor that allows me to edit text files.

The alternative is to rebuild my workstation. Lately, I've so little energy that I can't be arsed.

Back on thread, why not Mac? Mostly because Macs didn't (do they now?) offer a text interface. Graphic interfaces are much easier to use, but unless the relevant button is there, you're castrated!

Many moons ago, I worked in a college. We had lots of different kinds of computers (WinPCs, Apricots, Apples, to name just three). A significant challenge was to move files from one kind of computer to another. On everything but the Mac that was easy: they all had text interfaces that allowed me to download and install the relevant software: Kermit. The Mac's interface didn't have the appropriate button, so I couldn't click it.

I did find a user group that allowed me to download and install a Mac version, but every other kind of computer we had let me do that for myself - via a text interface. The Mac wouldn't allow me to pull myself up by my own bootstraps. All the others did.

That was when I fell out of love with Apple. (I'd fallen out of love with M$ before that.) At least with PCs (cheaper) I had options - a choice - with a Mac (better when someone else had foreseen my need) I had no choice: if someone else didn't offer an option I could click my mouse on, I was fucked!

MacOSX - because it uses Linux - isn't so tightly closed, but Apple still likes to pretend. In that way they are as bad as M$.

PC hardware openly offers the option of Doze or Linux. M$ would love to conceal that, but Linux is out of the bag: any one can download umpteen versions of Linux for free; and these days it's just as easy to install as is Doze. More, the usual suspects for software applications, like Office,or web browsers, or email clients, are actually available under Linux before they are available under either Mac or Doze.

Incidentally, X-Windows under Linux now offers a working environment as intuitive as Macs always used to be (plus a text interface).

Laziness aside, the PC/Linux combination is cheaper and more usable than either the PC/Doze or the Mac/ MacosX alternatives.

Eff

 

[rgraham666]

When you're as bad a typist as I am a computer with a text interface is like playing Russian Roulette. It's only a matter of time before the hammer falls on a loaded chamber.

 

[frees2]

Pc, mainly for the price and the focus on gaming

 

[fifty5]

When you're as bad a typist as I am a computer with a text interface is like playing Russian Roulette. It's only a matter of time before the hammer falls on a loaded chamber.

Granted, but clicking the wrong button can be just as dangerous!

Offering both and allowing the user to choose may just be offering a choice about which gun to fire at your head, but even that is better than having no choice about either which, or whether. Most errors in a text interface don't work, so do no harm. Errors in a graphic interface usually do something, even if you really, really didn't want that to happen!

 

[rgraham666]

My experience has been the exact opposite. I can't remember the last time I made a unfixable fuck up on my Mac. I ended up treating text interfaces with the same care as an IED.

 

[fifty5]

My experience has been the exact opposite. I can't remember the last time I made a unfixable fuck up on my Mac. I ended up treating text interfaces with the same care as an IED.

Tell me more. What is an IED?

Maybe both our experiences are anecdotal.

In principal, I stick to my guns: having both a text and a graphical interface seems to me better than either without the other...

 

[Handley_Page]

Tell me more. What is an IED?

Maybe both our experiences are anecdotal.

In principal, I stick to my guns: having both a text and a graphical interface seems to me better than either without the other...

Improvised Explosive Device ?
The sort of home-made bomb that does no favours for the lads in sandi-parts ?

 

[Austin8]

Improvised Explosive Device ?
The sort of home-made bomb that does no favours for the lads in sandi-parts ?

Interactive Essential Dynamics (IED) provides fully interactive visualization of essential dynamics (ED)

 

[rgraham666]

IED is an acronym for improvised explosive device. What they use in Iraq.

Mind you my last experience with a text only interface was many years ago when I was failing to teach myself Unix. That was before I realized Unix is the equivalent of Latin. It's the language the priests use to keep the mass of the followers from understanding what the priests were doing, the language of The Church.

You can get a test interface on the Mac. I bought it up by accident once while digging around my files. I closed it at once, before I could type a * instead of a - and throw my whole hard drive into the bit bucket.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Mac OS X does have a text environment. Under Applications is terminal. Its a *Nix bash shell, and once you learn the commands (Linux commands with a few special commands I can't be arsed to look up currently) its just like Linux.

I'm currently learning Ruby and doing a bit of tinkering in Mac Terminal, but I have used it for telnet and SSH connections to remote systems, and a neat little trick to recover administrative passwords.

 

[Austin8]

Mac OS X does have a text environment. Under Applications is terminal. Its a *Nix bash shell, and once you learn the commands (Linux commands with a few special commands I can't be arsed to look up currently) its just like Linux.

I'm currently learning Ruby and doing a bit of tinkering in Mac Terminal, but I have used it for telnet and SSH connections to remote systems, and a neat little trick to recover administrative passwords.

Hey Sal, welcome, ok Ive heard of Ruby, but robs bomb analogy threw me

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Hey Sal, welcome, ok Ive heard of Ruby, but robs bomb analogy threw me

Well as a evil BOFH I've actually talked people into fixing their virus problems with typing "Format C:\" in a command line, so his bomb analogy is not far from wrong.

Don't ask me much about Ruby, other than it comes native to Mac OS X and the first three pages of the tutorial have you adding and subtracting and saying "Hello World!"

 

[Austin8]

Well as a evil BOFH I've actually talked people into fixing their virus problems with typing "Format C:\" in a command line, so his bomb analogy is not far from wrong.

Don't ask me much about Ruby, other than it comes native to Mac OS X and the first three pages of the tutorial have you adding and subtracting and saying "Hello World!"

hahaha! Nice! oh and Ive typed Format C:/

 

[Dragonlipz]

The Times They Are A-Changin' lyrics

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Since MacOSx, macs run under Linux (though it's buried deep out of sight). PCs can run under Doze, or visibly, under Linux. There's a third way...

In practice, I use PCs in both ways: the server runs Linux, my laptop runs Doze XP.

Why, you may ask. The answer is pure laziness (plus Doze lock-down).

My platform of preference is a desk-top running Linux - it's just better! However, my desk-top work station folded: hardware failure. What did survive was the Lenovo lap-top I'm using right now. I can use Putty to log into the server and do what I need to do in a text 'window' - jstar is a Wordstar compatible editor that allows me to edit text files.

The alternative is to rebuild my workstation. Lately, I've so little energy that I can't be arsed.

Back on thread, why not Mac? Mostly because Macs didn't (do they now?) offer a text interface. Graphic interfaces are much easier to use, but unless the relevant button is there, you're castrated!

Many moons ago, I worked in a college. We had lots of different kinds of computers (WinPCs, Apricots, Apples, to name just three). A significant challenge was to move files from one kind of computer to another. On everything but the Mac that was easy: they all had text interfaces that allowed me to download and install the relevant software: Kermit. The Mac's interface didn't have the appropriate button, so I couldn't click it.

I did find a user group that allowed me to download and install a Mac version, but every other kind of computer we had let me do that for myself - via a text interface. The Mac wouldn't allow me to pull myself up by my own bootstraps. All the others did.

That was when I fell out of love with Apple. (I'd fallen out of love with M$ before that.) At least with PCs (cheaper) I had options - a choice - with a Mac (better when someone else had foreseen my need) I had no choice: if someone else didn't offer an option I could click my mouse on, I was fucked!

MacOSX - because it uses Linux - isn't so tightly closed, but Apple still likes to pretend. In that way they are as bad as M$.

PC hardware openly offers the option of Doze or Linux. M$ would love to conceal that, but Linux is out of the bag: any one can download umpteen versions of Linux for free; and these days it's just as easy to install as is Doze. More, the usual suspects for software applications, like Office,or web browsers, or email clients, are actually available under Linux before they are available under either Mac or Doze.

Incidentally, X-Windows under Linux now offers a working environment as intuitive as Macs always used to be (plus a text interface).

Laziness aside, the PC/Linux combination is cheaper and more usable than either the PC/Doze or the Mac/ MacosX alternatives.

Eff

Great post.

 

[Byron In Exile]

That was before I realized Unix is the equivalent of Latin.

Age quod agis.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The iPad Gets Sexy With Ryan Keely

The iPad may not revolutionize porn anytime soon—but that doesn't mean it isn't sexy. Penthouse Pet Ryan Keely teamed up with Nikola Tamindzic to show us just how sexy this brand new piece of tech can be.

http://cache.fleshbot.com/assets/images/2/2010/04/500x_img_5901.jpg

http://cache.fleshbot.com/assets/images/2/2010/04/img_5926.jpg

http://fleshbot.com/5516249/the-ipad-gets-sexy-with-ryan-keely

 

[Liar]

Well, as much as I like their products, I must say that Apple totally lacks a sense of humor.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iPhone-iPad-Macbook-Macbook-pro-ipod,10351.html

Come on, they got pissed about that?

And why is she apologizing? She should in the world of one commenter, tel them to get their iStick our of their iAss.

Unless of couse, she just brought it up as an excuse to show the fake ad a second time.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Well, as much as I like their products, I must say that Apple totally lacks a sense of humor.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iPhone-iPad-Macbook-Macbook-pro-ipod,10351.html

Come on, they got pissed about that?

And why is she apologizing? She should in the world of one commenter, tel them to get their iStick our of their iAss.

Unless of couse, she just brought it up as an excuse to show the fake ad a second time.

If it had been anyone else besides DeGeneres, Apple probably wouldn't have cared. People have been making lampoon vid jokes on the iPhone similar to this one since it first came out. They do need to loosen up, though. As of late, they've been drifting away from the relaxed loosened collar shirt and jeans constituency mentality they used to have. Is this what it's like to grow old?

At least it wasn't a deadly serious apology. She pretty much turned it into another joke and laughed at doing so, which was good for her.

 

[kimbalee]

If it had been anyone else besides DeGeneres, Apple probably wouldn't have cared. People have been making lampoon vid jokes on the iPhone similar to this one since it first came out. They do need to loosen up, though. As of late, they've been drifting away from the relaxed loosened collar shirt and jeans constituency mentality they used to have. Is this what it's like to grow old?

At least it wasn't a deadly serious apology. She pretty much turned it into another joke and laughed at doing so, which was good for her.

and she also showed the original commercial again before the apology (if you can call it that, lol) good for her.

 

[jomar]

iHop. Excellent.

'sup, Kim....

 

[kimbalee]

iHop. Excellent.

'sup, Kim....

that was pretty funny, huh?

hey jo, good to see you. nothing much. you?

 

[jomar]

that was pretty funny, huh?

hey jo, good to see you. nothing much. you?

Yeah, you too!

Same old, same old...Zombieland was awesome!

 

[Austin8]

Yeah, you too!

Same old, same old...Zombieland was awesome!

you know jo May is offical Zombie awareness month, got your gray ribbon on? :>