Paris deaths-anonymous, multi choice poll

Do the Paris deaths matter?-multi choice.

  • Yes, of course, all deaths matter

    Votes: 23 48.9%
  • No, I don't know them, they don't matter

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • Yes, I am connected to Paris in some way

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • Yes, because they are in a Western Country.

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • Yes, but no more than any other deaths from terrorism around the world

    Votes: 17 36.2%
  • They are unfortunate collateral damage in this war.

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • Yes, but not compared to the deaths in my own world.

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • Terrorism is horrible any place

    Votes: 28 59.6%
  • Yes, but not as much as deaths at home

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • I feel the same way about Paris as I did the Madrid bombings.

    Votes: 8 17.0%

  • Total voters
    47
Y'know, the thing is: if you're at a dangerous place, and something's happen to you, it's a bad thing, but you knew before how much shit could happen. People here have been outraged about black killings, maybe not as much as at the Paris attacks, but just because it's just a face-to-face of racists and embittered old men against those who only mention it happens, as it happens too much.When it comes to crime in America, I feel both, empathy and the feeling it's kind of their own fault. They could do things to avoid that.

It's different on both the Paris attacks and, for example, 9/11. Whoever was there, couldn't avoid that. Was in a safe place where these things shouldn't happen. So yes, this affects me more, as it was unpredictable.


Btw: congas for tendencially showing empathy ;)

Maybe I am paranoid, but I avoid synagogues in Paris.
 
It's not about the deaths. It's not even about Paris.
It's about Hatred and Fear. It's about a colossal refugee chaotic situation on earth. It's about war. It's about your freedom (the one you think you are enjoying) collapsing in tiny pieces.
 
Maybe I am paranoid, but I avoid synagogues in Paris.

i don't know about synagogues in Paris, but anything official Jewish here (like the synagogue, but even bureaus ) are guarded by police even with machine guns.
 
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Y'know, the thing is: if you're at a dangerous place, and something's happen to you, it's a bad thing, but you knew before how much shit could happen. People here have been outraged about black killings, maybe not as much as at the Paris attacks, but just because it's just a face-to-face of racists and embittered old men against those who only mention it happens, as it happens too much.When it comes to crime in America, I feel both, empathy and the feeling it's kind of their own fault. They could do things to avoid that.

It's different on both the Paris attacks and, for example, 9/11. Whoever was there, couldn't avoid that. Was in a safe place where these things shouldn't happen. So yes, this affects me more, as it was unpredictable.


Btw: congas for tendencially showing empathy ;)

So if I walk out my door and get shot, it's different from someone in Paris walking out their door and get shot? Because I live in the ghetto, and they live in the suburbs? So them getting shot would affect you more because it's not supposed to happen because their environment. But me just getting shot, I just became a product of my environment. Gotcha.

Even if that person in Paris did something to deserve to get shot,and I was just catchinga stray?
 
So if I walk out my door and get shot, it's different from someone in Paris walking out their door and get shot? Because I live in the ghetto, and they live in the suburbs? So them getting shot would affect you more because it's not supposed to happen because their environment. But me just getting shot, I just became a product of my environment. Gotcha.

Even if that person in Paris did something to deserve to get shot,and I was just catchinga stray?

If the person in Paris deserved to get shot, nobody would show empathy, I think.

I mean, get that straight: your neigbourhood may not give a fuck about you being dead or alive, and you may never know if anybody out of your little world pays attention to your life. People always tell that the ghetto is a dangerous place, and some people here heard for the first time that Newark isn't a very safe place to live. So no, we can only pay attention to what we know. If a freind of mine would be killed in Newark, I 'd be shocked, but I'd know that he was aware of the danger of living there.

Thing is: he could do something to get out of that hole. In some ways, own fault.

Have you ever lived on a safe place where you get the imagination nothing, really nothing can happen? On such placers, people will always be shocked if something serious happens. And Paris isn't a suburb, but it's quite a very safe place. Even now.

Do you understand this?
 
If the person in Paris deserved to get shot, nobody would show empathy, I think.

I mean, get that straight: your neigbourhood may not give a fuck about you being dead or alive, and you may never know if anybody out of your little world pays attention to your life. People always tell that the ghetto is a dangerous place, and some people here heard for the first time that Newark isn't a very safe place to live. So no, we can only pay attention to what we know. If a freind of mine would be killed in Newark, I 'd be shocked, but I'd know that he was aware of the danger of living there.

Thing is: he could do something to get out of that hole. In some ways, own fault.

Have you ever lived on a safe place where you get the imagination nothing, really nothing can happen? On such placers, people will always be shocked if something serious happens. And Paris isn't a suburb, but it's quite a very safe place. Even now.

Do you understand this?

So if I get shot, it's my fault for living here? But if someone else gets shot it's a tragedy?

This is a reason why I didn't, don't and never will give a fuck about what happened in Paris.
 
i don't know about synagogues in Paris, but anything official Jewish here (like the synagogue, but even bureaus ) are guarded by police even with machine guns.

I know. I miss Berlin, but I haven't been in a long time. My friends say much has changed and that Germany itself has also changed a lot.
 
It's not about the deaths. It's not even about Paris.
It's about Hatred and Fear. It's about a colossal refugee chaotic situation on earth. It's about war. It's about your freedom (the one you think you are enjoying) collapsing in tiny pieces.

Is there any proof this is refugee related?
 
So if I get shot, it's my fault for living here? But if someone else gets shot it's a tragedy?

It's always a tragedy. Always. Ask your news station why they think it's not.

Listen man: we could be the biggest haters to each other in the world, never give in a jota. We could do flamewars over years.

But if one day you'd tell people here that one of your kids was shot by some garbage in your neighbourhood, I would be the least, the absolutely least, to give a dumb comment about it like "Who cares?" or "don't bug me with crap like that". Even if I was unable to show empathy, I'd rather be silent than say a dumb thing.

Because that's what my hood taught me. Respect for the human kind.

And this is what a lot of people here showed in your threads. Not everybody, but a few. Don't tell me nobody ever gave a fuck about you.



Yes, I should have said "Smooth, please, shut up now, shut up on this event, as you don't know if somebody got relatives being involved in the incidents, you'll make a lot of dislikes tonight with a behavior like that"...but you was unstoppable, and I wasn't your friend, and the damage was done, so "Fuck off!!" was all I could say, as "Fuck off" was all of your attitude.

Call it corny, but some people her care for you, as you miss something to be totally lost like some monsters here.
 
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I know. I miss Berlin, but I haven't been in a long time. My friends say much has changed and that Germany itself has also changed a lot.

To the better, or to the worse?

For me, it's less anarchist and spontaneous than 20 years before, and yes, I miss that.
 
Is there any proof this is refugee related?
there appears to be confirmed intelligence of a cell that traveled from syria, exploiting the refugee situation in order to be able to gain entrance into france. one, specifically, has been named as having passed through greece, pretending to be a refugee amongst the thousands of genuine. another, however, has been identified as a french-born citizen who became radicalised.
 
To the better, or to the worse?

For me, it's less anarchist and spontaneous than 20 years before, and yes, I miss that.

The Berlin I knew was West Berlin before and during the fall of the wall.
It was fun, reasonably safe, artistic and spontaneous.
It was a nice escape from some of the rigidness of the rest of Germany at the time.
 
The Berlin I knew was West Berlin before and during the fall of the wall.
It was fun, reasonably safe, artistic and spontaneous.
It was a nice escape from some of the rigidness of the rest of Germany at the time.

Well, that Berlin fades more and more. Its still better here, in Berlin and some places in Brandenburg, than in the rest of Germany, but Berlin becomes more and more an exchangeable metropolis.
 
A point I have tried but failed to make, because I am a poor communicator, is that even for those devoid of emotion, these attacks do impact on many here. While many of the places in more turmoil and unrest have a 'risk priced in' to markets , even with alerts at high, events such as lasts nights impact on not just markets in France ( and UK with gatwick closure, and what ever is happening with the train crash ; I am afraid I have turned the news off for respite). While businesses, and those directly involved certainly take a hot, so do domestic markets and now so do international markets. In some ways disasters give benefits to some markets. For example, natural disasters and refugee camp requirements are not bad news if your business is disaster relief services : tents, food packs whatever, however, there are also losses for international markets. For example, a good percentage of our friends in European cities are Amercian, working in international or American owned corporations. Impact on commerce in Paris will impact on share prices in US and a pension investment in a home near you. As vulnerable as Europe to this event? Absolutely not. Disconnected, absolutely not. Now I understand some people here will say...'but I am not exposed....I have no pension, I only buy domestic goods etc etc'. And to them I suggest finding a good book with better communicated information than I can give.

And not by some Internet person who thinks if you are not entirely in silver/bitcoin/ whatever by last march your financial future is doomed.

While I personally care very much for people, in France, in Syria, in all situations, something that has surprised me is how many people do not seem to fathom global markets at all. The awfulness in parts of the world that we hear about less is NOT less awful on a personal scale. Its equal. The worse truth is that its so much worse the markets expect it. The compassion can be equal for each individual life lost, and the thoughts yet pragmatic for pragmatic concerns.

I feel none of the pill answers thus apply, because while more than one is correct, none is anywhere near whole enough to be my truth.


I suspect some people do not worry or think about matters outside of their realm of control.
 
I haven't seen as much outrage over the killings of black people, by cops, in the US, or over the countless deaths in the Middle East. As I've seen over a foreign country.

I certainly feel puzzled by it, given that I care (without showcasing it) much more about the deaths from the Eu, than the States.

I'll tell you who's concerned about "the killings of black people, by cops, in the US,"

Your bestie busybody, that's who.
 
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