P.D.O.-Public Display of Ownership

[rosco rathbone]

When I'm in public in this city with a woman I am psychosexually attracted to, I really get off on various manhandlings such as hard, patronizing ass-slaps, "pimpwalking" ie sort of grabbing her upper arm, lifting her, and forcing her to walk too fast on her tiptoes....treating her in a dismissive style where we are sure to be overheard and so forth. A lot of the kick is the anti-PCness of it all. I was up in Central Park with this sexy Jamaican girl I know, just hanging out; and as I sat on a park bench I stood her between my legs with her arms twisted up behind her back and held her there. She's very shy and easily bent out of shape by this kind of treatment, and as she was well aware of my psychosexual intentions in making her stand there, she blushed about as deeply as a light-skinned black girl can and hung her head in shame-the shame of being a well-educated, highly intelligent, politcally active woman giving in to psychosexual manhandling and public display of male supremacy. Um, I'm going into more detail than I meant to, but anyhow, about five or six women walked by, standard Upper East Side yuppie fare, and I watched each of them in the eyes as they took in the scenario. It was glorious, all manner of fear, bewilderment, disgust and anger.

Does anyone else here have anything to say about PDO? Are you a practitioner or practitionee? Details?


rosko

 

[A Desert Rose]

Rosko, you are such a pod person

and I say that with all affection.

Would your definition of PDO also include collars and leashes? How about obvious tatoos, as in "Property of XXX"?

I had a Dom once who really liked the idea of those things although I resisted them.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Aren't pod persons people who look normal but are malevolent drones???

I look like a malevolent drone and am abnormal: the reverse.

PDO could be any and all of the things you mention. It's just a "thing" with me and I wanted to see if anyone else was on same wavelength.

 

[Desdemona]

I sort of like it once in a while. I like it when He is close and touching me in a familiar way, whispering commands in my ear, reminding me that I am His. Its a little embarrassing but quite erotic at the same time.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Re: Rosko, you are such a pod person

I had a Dom once who really liked the idea of those things although I resisted them.

You resisted and got away with it, eh? Good for you.

 

[Ebonyfire]

PDO - I say No

Not my thing. I do not do public displays of any kind, not even in my vanilla life. I have never liked it.

However, I do get women asking how come I have such attentive male escorts. I just tell them they are well trained.

Eb

 

[WriterDom]

I might have a long coat over her shoulders and her hands cuffed behind her back and a buttplug up her ass, but no, we don’t pimp walk our women in the South. Well, I can't speak for any pimps in Atlanta.

I did get past the block of pulling hair, but I wouldn't do that in public either.

 

[lark sparrow]

I find the idea very erotic, but for me personally there is a line between subtle exchanges, and obvious ones that we are "subjecting" others to around us.

It's kind of like the lesbian thing. I will hold hands - minor displays of affection wherever we are, and if you don't like it... bite me! But, I don't think it's acceptable to make out - obvious displays, most places - straight, gay, bi or other.

The Domme that I belong to and I have discussed a tattoo similar to "Property of....", though I think we could get a bit more creative, and again, although I find it very erotic I wouldn't jump into it without much consideration and time.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I guess I'm more interested in the " 'subjecting-others-to' around us"...ownership as theater....but I'm interested in subtle exchanges as well.

 

[lark sparrow]

I wouldn't be offended, and find the idea quite erotic. I can see where you are coming from.

Has been "naughty" in public more than once with a Domme... but I do try to limit it, as not everyone will understand and I'd hate to see one or both of us go to jail in the worst case scenario.

Would it be the same in a public BDSM space, or is one of the reasons it is so compelling the forbidden and challenging aspect?

 

[evesdream]

When I'm in public in this city with a woman I am psychosexually attracted to, I really get off on various manhandlings such as hard, patronizing ass-slaps, "pimpwalking" ie sort of grabbing her upper arm, lifting her, and forcing her to walk too fast on her tiptoes....treating her in a dismissive style where we are sure to be overheard and so forth. A lot of the kick is the anti-PCness of it all. I was up in Central Park with this sexy Jamaican girl I know, just hanging out; and as I sat on a park bench I stood her between my legs with her arms twisted up behind her back and held her there. She's very shy and easily bent out of shape by this kind of treatment, and as she was well aware of my psychosexual intentions in making her stand there, she blushed about as deeply as a light-skinned black girl can and hung her head in shame-the shame of being a well-educated, highly intelligent, politcally active woman giving in to psychosexual manhandling and public display of male supremacy. Um, I'm going into more detail than I meant to, but anyhow, about five or six women walked by, standard Upper East Side yuppie fare, and I watched each of them in the eyes as they took in the scenario. It was glorious, all manner of fear, bewilderment, disgust and anger.

Does anyone else here have anything to say about PDO? Are you a practitioner or practitionee? Details?


rosko

wow, i almost died just reading that. What a humiliating little scenario, rosko.

I like PDO. It feels like the queerest public display of affection.

 

[RisiaSkye]

...the shame of being a well-educated, highly intelligent, politcally active woman giving in to psychosexual manhandling and public display of male supremacy. Um, I'm going into more detail than I meant to, but anyhow, about five or six women walked by, standard Upper East Side yuppie fare, and I watched each of them in the eyes as they took in the scenario. It was glorious, all manner of fear, bewilderment, disgust and anger.

I take issue with the wording choices here... it was not a display of "male supremacy," which does not exist, but a display of one male's power over a woman. There's a huge difference between claims of innate superiority based on the accident of chromosomes and recognition of a Dominant's selective empowerment by their submissive. You are not Dominant because you're male or female, and you are not inherently better or worse than anyone else because you have a penis or a vagina. It might seem like a small point, but it's not when you get to the second underlined bit.

I'm not trying to suggest that you actually hold male supremacist attitudes, btw. My remarks above are directed at the expression of an idea, not the person behind the idea. Though, I suppose you might hold that ideology...I have no idea, nor does it matter to me; I don't actually know you. But, if you don't hold such beliefs, your wording paints you with an unflattering hue of sexism. And if you do, I'm wasting my time even responding to you.

Here's why the "supremacy" vs. "power" question matters in the context of PDO--The arrogance of the "supremacist" attitude might explain the fear you believe you saw in the eyes of others, imo. Using myself as an example, when I see relationships in which one party manhandles their partner and treat them with what appears to be a lack of respect and dignity, I would imagine that I too look disgusted and angry, because I *am* judging what I see. I'm appalled by abusers & "ists" (misogynists, racists, etc), and by the partners who stay with abusers and people with nauseatingly ignorant attitudes. And if you're not privy to the consent status of a public exchange, one probably doesn't automatically assume one's seeing a scene that pleases both participants. If one partner is bent in unnatural shapes or physically restrained, and is also crying or blushing or cowering in apparent fear, it looks like abuse to a casual observer. I mean, I don't immediately assume it's sexual, and I'm actually in the lifestyle--but, I also know that abusive domestic violence is more common than overt and consenting BDSM. Imagine what a 'nilla must think.

This is why public play is inappropriate outside of semi-private contained space (like parties & clubs), imo. Asking the general public to automatically differentiate between abuse & consensual behaviors is an unfair burden to place on them, and one that weakens our moves as a community toward public acceptance. If you're doing such things in public--things easily mistaken for abuse or false imprisonment, be sure not to complain too loud if you get the handcuffs slapped on you by the big Dom--the government. Given the ambiguity of the circumstances, and the importance of protecting individuals from criminal, exploitive violence against their person, you'd have little ground to stand on when it came time to explain why you shouldn't go to jail.

If you ever engage in this kind of play, be damned sure you know your partner, and their limits, as well as you know yourself. If you don't heed their signals and you cross the line into their hard limit zone, the only person who'll know it's just a miscommunication is you. If a concerned bystander steps in and your sub is freaked because you didn't stop at a safe-signal, or you pushed too hard too fast, in the heat of the moment they may well say or do something that will be used against you before a judge. To everyone outside the BDSM relationship, it'll look like abuse; if your partner's had it with you & decides to screw you over, you're fucked but good. And if there are witnesses and your partner won't testify for your side when it comes down to it, you are going to jail, period. If your partner didn't back you up in your claims of consensuality, you'd be up the oft-mentioned waterway of excrement, and you'd have no one but yourself to blame.

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Does anyone else here have anything to say about PDO? Are you a practitioner or practitionee? Details?

Yes, both of us switches wear marks signifying the other's ownership, right out there in public. We just call them wedding bands.

 

[Red Menace]

Okay, I have to admit, I'm a big fan of subjecting the general public to to my kink. I love exhibitionism when I think I'm truly shocking people and not just one of a hundred naked subbies running around at a play party.

Sir likes to play with the O-rings on my restraints and move my arms around with them. We get some odd looks by doing that. Sometimes He slaps my face in a playful way. I hate when He does that but the shocked expressions of those around us are worth it. Even more priceless is their bewilderment when I smile and kiss Him. I always call Him Sir. That's received a few raised eyebrows by those within earshot. And of course, there's the obligatory, propritary, grabbing of the breasts, ass and pussy. I have no idea what kinds of glares that earns us... I always have my eyes closed.

 

[Vulpesvulpes]

I recently attended a hometown high school football game in the rural South and saw a 20ish boy walking around the track with his 16ish girlfriend who was wearing a collar and leash.

I found it to be highly inappropriate. First of all, I doubt they are old enough or experienced enough to have any idea what they are doing. Second, I think it was more of a fashion statement designed to provoke a reaction than anything else.

We are enough of a lightning rod and don't need to cause further problems for ourselves by subjecting ma and pa kettle to the details of our sex lives.

JUST MHO!

-Vv

 

[bunny bondage]

often, while we're driving somewhere, we'll come to a stop light or parking lot full of people. He'll reach over and rub my clit while everyone watches, or tell me to masturbate. He makes a big show of it, having me lick my cum from His fingers or tugging my pigtails to keep my head up. sometimes i open my eyes for a peek and look at the faces of my audience. the reactions vary. while it's kind of embarassing as i'm a shy person, i admit that i love it.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The MALE SUPREMACY thing was an inside joke. I can see your point about not subjecting the public to the stress of discerning abuse from "play" (a word I loathe) but I simply enjoy it too much to care. Thanks for the legal advice though, I'll be sure and keep it in my bean.

 

[serijules]

Interesting subject, and I'm not sure how I feel about it overall.

I love it when I visit the city and hang with other kinky friends...and occasionally a D/s display will happen in public. It's very thrilling, but the added fact that I KNOW that I don't know anyone that will see, makes it much more desireable and appealing. However, if I was in a situation where someone I know might see the display, it would anger me rather than be something I enjoyed or wanted or consented to. Not so much because it would be humiliating, but because I would be causing undue worry and confusion in their minds...and I don't feel thats necessary.

Most of the experience I've had in it is pretty subtle...being given orders or warnings...having my ass slapped or nipples pinched...the way I'm dressed. One time a Dom friend and I met for an afternoon and got a room in a very small motel. After 5 hours of playing, complete with a lot of moans and squeals and the likes, we packed up all our bags and left. The motel manager and the maid were sitting out by the pool smoking, and I heard them talking about us, wondering why we were packing up and leaving after only five hours, wondering about the sounds they heard, and debating if I was a prostitute or if we were having an affair or whatnot. It was very thrilling,

Public display of anything is fine with me, but I do feel there needs to be a certain level of respect for those around.

 

[rosco rathbone]

often, while we're driving somewhere, we'll come to a stop light or parking lot full of people. He'll reach over and rub my clit while everyone watches, or tell me to masturbate. He makes a big show of it, having me lick my cum from His fingers or tugging my pigtails to keep my head up. sometimes i open my eyes for a peek and look at the faces of my audience. the reactions vary. while it's kind of embarassing as i'm a shy person, i admit that i love it.

Trying to visualize this.....I can't see how anyone in the viewing public could see inside the automobile, unless they were looking down from some steep upwards angle like the drivers of big-rig trucks. Points for rocking the pigtails though.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Okay, I have to admit, I'm a big fan of subjecting the general public to to my kink. I love exhibitionism when I think I'm truly shocking people and not just one of a hundred naked subbies running around at a play party.

Sometimes He slaps my face in a playful way. I hate when He does that but the shocked expressions of those around us are worth it. Even more priceless is their bewilderment when I smile and kiss Him. I always call Him Sir. That's received a few raised eyebrows by those within earshot. And of course, there's the obligatory, propritary, grabbing of the breasts, ass and pussy. [/B]

Seen.

 

[bunny bondage]

Trying to visualize this.....I can't see how anyone in the viewing public could see inside the automobile, unless they were looking down from some steep upwards angle like the drivers of big-rig trucks. Points for rocking the pigtails though.

my car's low to the ground, and there's plenty of suv's and trucks where i live. or even if all they see is my face contorted in extacy and his hand reaching over to me, it's still pretty obvious. and thanks for the pigtail points, i just love them, and so does He! there's LOTS of uses for them too!