Ownership

[Shadowsdream]

Many cringe when they hear the word *Owned* as in I own you/him/her body, heart and mind.

i need to be *owned* completely and in all ways!

Some find the term to be degrading to humanity and others find it a soft caress of the depth of their devotion on either side of the whip.

I own My slave as deeply as one human being can own another, and with this acceptance of ownership I commit to a massive responsibility for his safety and happiness. his desire and need to be owned by Me cements his joy in his obedience and service. W/we both like the sound of the word *owned* whether it is uttered from his lips or Mine. It is a private ingredient in O/our every day lives.

Other submissives I have guided and Dominated have brought Me equal joy and have had different personalities that could not fathom the word *owned*. They were almost as committed and brought me incredible joy and responsibility as well.

Anyone care to join this conversation from your own point of view?

 

[WillowPuss]

I can understand your slave's feelings.

I feeled owned.
I need to be owned - totally and utterly and completely.

When my Master put that simple everyday silver chain around my neck, he did so with the words 'You are mine. I own you, body, mind and soul.' (Or something like that.) In that moment, I have never felt so safe, so secure, so loved and accepted and cherished.

To know that He wanted me, with all my faults and imperfections, he wanted and needed my submission thaat much - it was just so freeing.

 

[artful]

Many cringe when they hear the word *Owned* as in I own you/him/her body, heart and mind.

i need to be *owned* completely and in all ways!

Some find the term to be degrading to humanity and others find it a soft caress of the depth of their devotion on either side of the whip.

I own My slave as deeply as one human being can own another, and with this acceptance of ownership I commit to a massive responsibility for his safety and happiness. his desire and need to be owned by Me cements his joy in his obedience and service. W/we both like the sound of the word *owned* whether it is uttered from his lips or Mine. It is a private ingredient in O/our every day lives.

Other submissives I have guided and Dominated have brought Me equal joy and have had different personalities that could not fathom the word *owned*. They were almost as committed and brought me incredible joy and responsibility as well.

Anyone care to join this conversation from your own point of view?

As difficult as LDR's are to establish and maintain, I can truthfully say I *own* dream. Not by way of purchasing her,...nor by her submissiveness or MY domination.

She *IS* mine,...and I claim her. Without us having a clear, and honest communication between who we are, and where we want the relationship to go, this would not be possible.

I am amazed at just how far we have progressed, in such a short period of time. Tonight, (because her puter is down), we talked on the phone for three and one half hours.

It was easily done, there was excitement in our voices discussing everyday routine matters, and anticipation of our future, skin to skin relationship. (Though we didn't do phone sex, per se, there was never a dull moment)

She laughed, she cried, she bubbled and bounced, from one topic to the next. It was a joy for us both. She also claims ME for her Master.

We work at coming closer in our relationship, with each new communication, but it is a labor of happiness, a labor of wonder, as we discover more and more about each other.

Nothing is perfect, and we both are aware of that, yet perfection is what we strive for. Not in a rushed manner, glossing over things that might be a problem, but discussing them in an honest, open, caring way.

Sometimes we hit a bump in the road, and sometimes it is smooth sailing, but I knew on August 12 th, 2002, (my birthday-also the night I collared her), THIS was what we BOTH wanted, what would complete EACH of us into ONE whole.

The *Magic* is on us, and in us! At this point in time,...I have established few restrictions on her everyday life, and I do not mandate she DO a lot of needless tasking, to prove her submission and obedience to my will.

She had already PROVED herself to me, and it was symbolised, the night I offered her my collar. There is MUCH training left to accomplish, and like Shadows, I feel it is a lifetime journey. One to be shared, and enjoyed as time marches by.

Ownership is a responsibility of not just HAVING something, or taking pride in having it, but it is maintaining it, caring for it, nurturing and guiding that which is *PRICELESS* to ME.

My responsibility is not to shape, or form Dream into what I want, it is my responsibility to see that she becomes who SHE wants to be,...the REAL her.

I will shed light to the various facets of her being, her personality, and as she SEES herself in these NEW lights, she will choose the path of her developement. As she so chooses, THAT is what I will guide her in becoming.

(Sorry for the long post Shadows,...but I had no way to shorten it with MY talents on the keyboard)

P.S.-I posted this,...hoping that in SOME small way,...it might help others on their journey, to becoming what THEY want to become.

 

[A Desert Rose]

On ownership.....

My pervious Dom has contacted me recently, now a couple of times, to chat. With the distance of time, we have both been able to look back and discuss rationally, what happened between us and where we had failed. But also, we have discussed the few things we did right.

His biggest need, in my opinion, was ownership. He would remind me constantly that he owned me and I was to do his bidding, no matter what that was, without question and cheerfully. He would refer to parts of my anatomy as his tits, his lips, his ass, his you-know-what.

Belonging to him, body and soul was wonderful. It was a safe, warm place to be. I liked being owned. I liked belonging to him.

Giving oneself over to be owned by another is a great gift. Knowing that you are all He desires is very fulfilling.

And it is something I now miss. Darn him, he HAD to call and remind me. LMAO.

Rose

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Re: Ownership

Ownership is a responsibility of not just HAVING something, or taking pride in having it, but it is maintaining it, caring for it, nurturing and guiding that which is *PRICELESS* to ME.

P.S.-I posted this,...hoping that in SOME small way,...it might help others on their journey, to becoming what THEY want to become.

Wonderful words and something we subs are all striving to hear. And yes, you are helping me on my journey, Art as is your dream girl. Sleep tight.

Love,
Rose

 

[Lancecastor]

Not so long ago, women were thought of in Western cultures as chattel, owned by their men like other possessions and expected to obey in return for protection.

The Women's Movement and society at large decided to change all of that.

Yet the paradigm continues in BDSM and elsewhere.

Now being owned is by choice of both master and servant.

And the paradigm of "love, honour....and obey" is considered, by and large, a silly, antiquated notion.

As modern women, does submission strike you as a contradiction?

Lance

 

[Shadowsdream]

I can understand your slave's feelings.

I feeled owned.
I need to be owned - totally and utterly and completely.

When my Master put that simple everyday silver chain around my neck, he did so with the words 'You are mine. I own you, body, mind and soul.' (Or something like that.) In that moment, I have never felt so safe, so secure, so loved and accepted and cherished.

To know that He wanted me, with all my faults and imperfections, he wanted and needed my submission thaat much - it was just so freeing.

One more explanation of NEED in a relationship CAN be ownership as willow so beautifully explains. Some subs crave it, need it and thrive through the simple word *owned*

Thank you for sharing the beauty of your relationship as a symbol of how some D/s journeys evolve.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Art

(Ownership is a responsibility of not just HAVING something, or taking pride in having it, but it is maintaining it, caring for it, nurturing and guiding that which is *PRICELESS* to ME. )

What a wonderful long post of explanation displaying yet another opinion based on the reality between Yourself and dreams future goals and present journey.

I hear pride for growth rather than an erosion of the submissives vulnerability through Your expectations of leading her into a place of safety to a mutual satisfaction.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: On ownership.....

My pervious Dom has contacted me recently, now a couple of times, to chat. With the distance of time, we have both been able to look back and discuss rationally, what happened between us and where we had failed. But also, we have discussed the few things we did right.

His biggest need, in my opinion, was ownership. He would remind me constantly that he owned me and I was to do his bidding, no matter what that was, without question and cheerfully. He would refer to parts of my anatomy as his tits, his lips, his ass, his you-know-what.

Belonging to him, body and soul was wonderful. It was a safe, warm place to be. I liked being owned. I liked belonging to him.

Giving oneself over to be owned by another is a great gift. Knowing that you are all He desires is very fulfilling.

And it is something I now miss. Darn him, he HAD to call and remind me. LMAO.

Rose

It pleases Me that you have had the opportunity to be wrapped in this strong word. To experience if it was right for you or not. To be able to judge competently if it is a place you wish to kneel to again.

To have felt the beauty, the power and the joy to submit within the cacoon of the warmth of his desire to own you completely. Perhaps the door is being slightly opened to learn more about each other and what you truly need now that you have begun an independant quest for knowledge.

 

[Guest]

Re: On ownership.....

And it is something I now miss. Darn him, he HAD to call and remind me. LMAO.

Rose

Yeah? and you're all alone now, why? Maybe you're not all that and the bag of chips you think you are. Ever think of that?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Lance

(Now being owned is by choice of both master and servant. )

This world of BDSM that W/we choose to embrace gives us different food for thought perhaps than that formalized by society, the womans movement or life as it was lived in anyones opinion that we do not effect with our own sexuality.

It comes down to choice as you have pointed out...between the Dominant and the submissive. A freedom of choice that is wrapped around sexuality rather than obligation.

How does this word interpret to you in the lifestyle that you prefer?

 

[Guest]

On Being Owned

i loved being owned.

The day my Dom put his collar around my neck and told me i belonged to himand that he owned me, was one of the best days of my life.

i was released today, don't guess i'm owned anymore.

But here's the thing - some part of me will always belong to Him.

~sad smile~

 

[CarolineOh]

Re: On Being Owned

i loved being owned.

The day my Dom put his collar around my neck and told me i belonged to himand that he owned me, was one of the best days of my life.

i was released today, don't guess i'm owned anymore.

But here's the thing - some part of me will always belong to Him.

~sad smile~

Anyone who touches our lives that profoundly will have a lasting effect. I hope you will come to be able to reflect back with warmth on the beauty of what you shared, without having to feel the accompanying pain.

 

[luvsubbbbb]

Many cringe when they hear the word *Owned* as in I own you/him/her body, heart and mind.

i need to be *owned* completely and in all ways!

Some find the term to be degrading to humanity and others find it a soft caress of the depth of their devotion on either side of the whip.

I own My slave as deeply as one human being can own another, and with this acceptance of ownership I commit to a massive responsibility for his safety and happiness. his desire and need to be owned by Me cements his joy in his obedience and service. W/we both like the sound of the word *owned* whether it is uttered from his lips or Mine. It is a private ingredient in O/our every day lives.

Other submissives I have guided and Dominated have brought Me equal joy and have had different personalities that could not fathom the word *owned*. They were almost as committed and brought me incredible joy and responsibility as well.

Anyone care to join this conversation from your own point of view?

a dreamy topic, Mistress Shadowsdream........

i think that in a Power Exchange context, in addition to the Property aspect of being able to do anything to or decide anything in respect of the slave/submissive, Ownership, in my mind, brings with it a special caring and responsibility towards him or her.........i know that i, for one, could not place myself in the hands of One who does not value me, cherish me, or care for me in return for my gift........so....while the Ownership goes only one way, the caring and respect goes BOTH ways.......

one of the most assuring things for the slave/submissive who submits his/her mind and body to their Owner, is that his/her needs are being nourished by that Owner in a different but just as meaningful way as he/she devotes their every waking hour to the needs, pleasures and happiness of the One who holds their leash.........

i also find that the stronger the term used in a D/s relationship, the more meaningful it tends to be to the participants.........

ok.........here is something controversial to chew on: i think that the term Ownership gives a special rush to the slave/submissive, as it denotes Property, as, theoretically the Owner would have the ability/right to sell you if you screw up...so it serves as a constant reminder not to do so......or ELSE!!

((ummm.....the last paragraph was written only PARTIALLY tongue in cheek......i wonder what other people think about this....... seriously speaking, my own opinion of selling is that it is not realistic, nor should it be deemed to be appropriate in a Power Exchange context.....as the meaning of the gift of submission is shattered as soon as the Dominant decides He/She no longer wishes to Own the slave/submissive or vice versa........

.......unless.........it is done by the Dominant in conjunction with the slave/submissive, with ONLY the best interests of the slave/sub in mind.........("no!...no!...NOT just to the highest bidder!!......P-P-PLEASE??")

i apologize for this extreme digression into the realm of fantasy.........))

 

[Lancecastor]

As a north-american raised man of an age that formed me in both pre and post feminist society, I have a sense of duty and obligation from my early upbringing as well as the awareness of the need for mutual choice in any pairing learned as an adult.

D/s seems to parallel and mirror that social dichotomy or complexity or flashpoint....there are several words that work.

So, D/s is a resource to me in terms of understanding and satisfying my sexual-social self in a changing world.

Lance

(Now being owned is by choice of both master and servant. )

This world of BDSM that W/we choose to embrace gives us different food for thought perhaps than that formalized by society, the womans movement or life as it was lived in anyones opinion that we do not effect with our own sexuality.

It comes down to choice as you have pointed out...between the Dominant and the submissive. A freedom of choice that is wrapped around sexuality rather than obligation.

How does this word interpret to you in the lifestyle that you prefer?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: On Being Owned

i loved being owned.

The day my Dom put his collar around my neck and told me i belonged to himand that he owned me, was one of the best days of my life.

i was released today, don't guess i'm owned anymore.

But here's the thing - some part of me will always belong to Him.

~sad smile~

I hope one day your ~smile~ will lose the sadness and that the positive memories will outweigh todays pain.

The removal of a collar has as much and sometimes even more impact that the receiving of it.

I thank you for giving your in put on that single strong word!

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Re: Ownership

a dreamy topic, Mistress Shadowsdream........

i think that in a Power Exchange context, in addition to the Property aspect of being able to do anything to or decide anything in respect of the slave/submissive, Ownership, in my mind, brings with it a special caring and responsibility towards him or her.........i know that i, for one, could not place myself in the hands of One who does not value me, cherish me, or care for me in return for my gift........so....while the Ownership goes only one way, the caring and respect goes BOTH ways.......

one of the most assuring things for the slave/submissive who submits his/her mind and body to their Owner, is that his/her needs are being nourished by that Owner in a different but just as meaningful way as he/she devotes their every waking hour to the needs, pleasures and happiness of the One who holds their leash.........

i also find that the stronger the term used in a D/s relationship, the more meaningful it tends to be to the participants.........

ok.........here is something controversial to chew on: i think that the term Ownership gives a special rush to the slave/submissive, as it denotes Property, as, theoretically the Owner would have the ability/right to sell you if you screw up...so it serves as a constant reminder not to do so......or ELSE!!

((ummm.....the last paragraph was written only PARTIALLY tongue in cheek......i wonder what other people think about this....... seriously speaking, my own opinion of selling is that it is not realistic, nor should it be deemed to be appropriate in a Power Exchange context.....as the meaning of the gift of submission is shattered as soon as the Dominant decides He/She no longer wishes to Own the slave/submissive or vice versa........

.......unless.........it is done by the Dominant in conjunction with the slave/submissive, with ONLY the best interests of the slave/sub in mind.........("no!...no!...NOT just to the highest bidder!!......P-P-PLEASE??")

i apologize for this extreme digression into the realm of fantasy.........))

Thank you for adding your voice to this conversation so that all can get to know you a little better. As always you bring food for thought with an extra dose of provocation ~~grin~~

A big dose of fantasy in My mind is the slave selling concept..though I use it in My torment of the toy I adore W/we both know that it is beyond the scope of reality. Now having said that...lending him out is a distinct possibility!

 

[Shadowsdream]

Lance

Perhaps you and I are fortunate to have lived through both sides of the issues of freedom in the day to day choices now taken for granted.

Perhaps it gives us more responsibility to teach the beauty of freedom of choice in sexuality.

Or perhaps not?

 

[Ebonyfire]

Well,

I have part-times subs and neither one is collared. Whether that will changed in the future, only time will tell.

However, I know that sissyboy feels be "belongs" to Me. His life is open to my scrutiny, I have the right to ask him anything and everything, and he must answer truthfully.

Eb

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: On ownership.....

Yeah? and you're all alone now, why? Maybe you're not all that and the bag of chips you think you are. Ever think of that?

Begone, Satan, you have no power here!

Eb

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Well,

I have part-times subs and neither one is collared. Whether that will changed in the future, only time will tell.

However, I know that sissyboy feels be "belongs" to Me. His life is open to my scrutiny, I have the right to ask him anything and everything, and he must answer truthfully.

Eb

Ah ha here at last!

Eb...I think You may agree with Me here...it does not take a collar to confirm ownership..simply taking the responsibility and having the desire on both sides of the whip can be a strong enough concept to feel owned by the submissive and feel ownership by the Dominant?

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Well,

Ah ha here at last!

Eb...I think You may agree with Me here...it does not take a collar to confirm ownership..simply taking the responsibility and having the desire on both sides of the whip can be a strong enough concept to feel owned by the submissive and feel ownership by the Dominant?

I often wondered about that, but I have to say that you are correct. I have taken the responsibility for his growth and nurturing in this lifestyle. It may be a bond that is never broken. We have talked about the fact that if he never marries or finds a 24/7 who he can give his entire life to, I would always be there for him.

As for bitchboy, it is early days yet.

I also have another sub that I have been training for a longtime, who feels I own him. But that is another (epic) story.

Eb

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Re: Re: Well,

I often wondered about that, but I have to say that you are correct. I have taken the responsibility for his growth and nurturing in this lifestyle. It may be a bond that is never broken. We have talked about the fact that if he never marries or finds a 24/7 who he can give his entire life to, I would always be there for him.

As for bitchboy, it is early days yet.

I also have another sub that I have been training for a longtime, who feels I own him. But that is another (epic) story.

Eb

A simple word with complex dimensions

 

[cellis]

I am not a slave. I have a problem with that word in context to me only. I have talked to slaves and find the prospect of having a slave exciting.

But when I read your words, Shadowsdream, I thought about my heart. If Himself owns my heart, then he owns me. My heart does indeed belong to him.

So there is a dichotomy... I reject the word slave for myself, but call Himself "Master".

 

[WillowPuss]

I am not a slave. I have a problem with that word in context to me only. I have talked to slaves and find the prospect of having a slave exciting.

But when I read your words, Shadowsdream, I thought about my heart. If Himself owns my heart, then he owns me. My heart does indeed belong to him.

So there is a dichotomy... I reject the word slave for myself, but call Himself "Master".

cellis, Robuck refuses to use the word 'slave' too. I suppose it is the bad conotations that that word usually conjures.

So, I am not His 'slave' but ... I am certainly 'owned' by Him - and am happy to be so. (And I call him Master!)