Oral

[chris9]

Yes, I know, not a very inventive title...
In Rosco's thread about worshipping cock some people stated that they don't enjoy it so very extremely much. So now you guys left me wondering why not, or what about it not. Thinking about it I found that (yes, yes, overwhelming power of femsubs around) only very few men who like oral said why they did.
So, gents, wether or not you like receiving oral, please come over to explain 'why' to me

 

[Killishandra]

Dang, it's the middle of the night... I'm hoping that's why no one has responded to this yet. I have heard different men state different reasons for enjoying oral (especially those men into BDSM) but I'd really like to read responses to this thread. Giving oral is a passion of mine. I know that alot of my joy in it comes from the very primal feeling of having a cock there. Also, it can be enjoyed in so many contexts... There is a thrill to having a cock forced into your mouth and being ordered to suck it. Yet, it is a humbling experience to be made to explicitly ask for it. And then again, there is a pride in receiving cock and the opportunity to pleasure Him as a reward for a good girl.

I love oral not just for the physical sensations (which I do enjoy) but primarily for the mental aspect and the versatility of the act.

I'll join Chris is urging the gents in this forum to tell us what they enjoy about it from their end.

 

[chris9]

Can someone explain to me why the thread has this little checkmark beside it on the forum list? It's where there's (for other threads) also the attachment sign.

 

[Killishandra]

Can someone explain to me why the thread has this little checkmark beside it on the forum list? It's where there's (for other threads) also the attachment sign.

When you log into Lit and view the forum(s) you will see that checkmark next to every thread you are "subscribed" too.

When you post (or start) in a thread, you are automatically subscribed to it. (It's also possible to subscribe to threads you have not posted in.)

If you go to the top of the page and click on "Quick Links" and then "subscribed threads" you will see a list of threads you've previously posted on, as well as which ones have new posts. It makes checking lit rather convenient. (Course, you have to go to the boards themselves to see new threads you haven't posted to yet!)

Hope that answers your question, Chris.

 

[chris9]

When you log into Lit and view the forum(s) you will see that checkmark next to every thread you are "subscribed" too.

When you post (or start) in a thread, you are automatically subscribed to it. (It's also possible to subscribe to threads you have not posted in.)

If you go to the top of the page and click on "Quick Links" and then "subscribed threads" you will see a list of threads you've previously posted on, as well as which ones have new posts. It makes checking lit rather convenient. (Course, you have to go to the boards themselves to see new threads you haven't posted to yet!)

Hope that answers your question, Chris.

Yes, thanks!
Besides, that way we keep the thread near the top of the list, so when the gents wake up or come back from work (for those in my part of the world), they will find it right away

 

[jasonlf]

Dang, it's the middle of the night... I'm hoping that's why no one has responded to this yet. I have heard different men state different reasons for enjoying oral (especially those men into BDSM) but I'd really like to read responses to this thread. Giving oral is a passion of mine. I know that alot of my joy in it comes from the very primal feeling of having a cock there. Also, it can be enjoyed in so many contexts... There is a thrill to having a cock forced into your mouth and being ordered to suck it. Yet, it is a humbling experience to be made to explicitly ask for it. And then again, there is a pride in receiving cock and the opportunity to pleasure Him as a reward for a good girl.

One of the reasons I've liked oral is that it is a vanilla way to push a girl's limits. A lot of girls just simply don't do oral... in a way,getting them to go against their usual for you is a push on their limits.


Not just that, but it's a good way for someone like me, who wants to, really, stay a virgin until I meet the person I will spend my life with, to have a sexual experience without having to actually have intercourse.

Maybe once I get to the point of that, I'll understand the things about Oral that make it special.

 

[catalina_francisco]

One of the reasons I've liked oral is that it is a vanilla way to push a girl's limits. A lot of girls just simply don't do oral... in a way,getting them to go against their usual for you is a push on their limits.


Not just that, but it's a good way for someone like me, who wants to, really, stay a virgin until I meet the person I will spend my life with, to have a sexual experience without having to actually have intercourse.

Maybe once I get to the point of that, I'll understand the things about Oral that make it special.

We share a different definition of virginity jason. For me, sex is sex and losing one's virginity is more about crossing the barriers between innocence and not so innocent in a hands on way as opposed to just traditional vaginal/penile penetration. Your description in another thread as to why you find it easy to remain a virgin based on how you would feel if your future partner had been with another, for me would include oral sex.....same as if my husband went out and had a blow job on the way home from work and tried to pass it off as nothing, not sexual....it is I'm afraid and I would be just as pissed to be cheated on through oral sex as I would through penetration, as would he.

Catalina

 

[graceanne]

We share a different definition of virginity jason. For me, ses is ses and losing one's virginity is more about crossing the barriers between innocence and not so innocent in a hands on way as opposed to just penetration. Your description in another thread as to why you find it easy to remain a virgin based on how you would feel if your future partner had ben with another, for me would include oral sex.....same as if my husbane went out and had a blow job on the way home from work and tried to pass it off as nothing, not sexual....it is I'm afraid and I would be just as pissed to be cheated on through oral sex as I would through penetration, as would he.

Catalina

ditto

 

[jasonlf]

We share a different definition of virginity jason. For me, ses is ses and losing one's virginity is more about crossing the barriers between innocence and not so innocent in a hands on way as opposed to just penetration. Your description in another thread as to why you find it easy to remain a virgin based on how you would feel if your future partner had ben with another, for me would include oral sex.....same as if my husbane went out and had a blow job on the way home from work and tried to pass it off as nothing, not sexual....it is I'm afraid and I would be just as pissed to be cheated on through oral sex as I would through penetration, as would he.

In a sense of cheating? Yes, oral is sex. Hell, a KISS is outta line in my book if you're committed to someone...

but the point is, I'm choosing to save that one act for whomever it is I spend my life with. That has several benefits... one -- chance of most stds with oral is minute, if not eliminated .... two -- no chance of pregnancy...

It's not about omg "virginity" it's about me choosing to forgo the "intercourse" part of sex until I'm fully committed. To be quite honest, I could care less if people consider me a "virgin" or not.

 

[catalina_francisco]

In a sense of cheating? Yes, oral is sex. Hell, a KISS is outta line in my book if you're committed to someone...

but the point is, I'm choosing to save that one act for whomever it is I spend my life with. That has several benefits... one -- chance of most stds with oral is minute, if not eliminated .... two -- no chance of pregnancy...

It's not about omg "virginity" it's about me choosing to forgo the "intercourse" part of sex until I'm fully committed. To be quite honest, I could care less if people consider me a "virgin" or not.

Ummm, you are living dangerously if that is your belief. I know of a virgin who got pregnant through playing without penetration, and just a stray drop that got in where it shouldn't have through finger transmission.....and if you check out health sites, and some of the brave people here who have posted as to their experience, you will find oral sex is open to transmission of STD's just as is as traditional intercourse.

As to other forms not being as important in the terms of future relationships, it was my understanding you mentioned your virginity kept you pure for the one you will spend your life with and vice versa......my definition of purity is not having several oral sexual experiences with several others under your belt as you mentioned and which did things to your body you won't go into. So does it mean lesbians can't get past virginity and purity because one of them doesn't have a real penis, and gay guys similar because there is a pussy missing in the equation? Guess it works for you but would never work for me if you were a prospective life partner of mine.

Catalina

 

[jasonlf]

Ummm, you are living dangerously if that is your belief. I know of a virgin who got pregnant through playing without penetration, and just a stray drop that got in where it shouldn't have through finger transmission.....and if you check out health sites, and some of the brave people here who have posted as to their experience, you will find oral sex is open to transmission of STD's just as is as traditional intercourse.

I do my research, and I'm not an idiot.

AIDs transmission goes in this order: Anal --> Vaginal --> Oral ::: I was listening to a speaker from the Centers for Disease Control on local talkradio... he was talking about likelyhood of transmission of AIDS and other STDs. He said that, basically, you're more likely to be struck by lightning 5 times in your life than to catch AIDS through oral sex.

I know other STDS that doesn't apply, but I do know that for most viral-based ones it does. Herpes and other things can be transmitted via oral sex, but then again, it goes about knowing your partner. I'm very aware of who I do things with...

As far as the "pregnant through play" thing goes, I understand that, I've heard of it, and I'm aware of it during play.

As to other forms not being as important in the terms of future relationships, it was my understanding you mentioned your virginity kept you pure for the one you will spend your life with and vice versa......my definition of purity is not having several oral sexual experiences with several others under your belt as you mentioned and which did things to your body you won't go into. So does it mean lesbians can't get past virginity and purity because one of them doesn't have a real penis, and gay guys similar because there is a pussy missing in the equation? Guess it works for you but would never work for me if you were a prospective life partner of mine

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective...

How many guys, my age, have already had multiple partners (intercourse)? A ton. I mean, a ton. Not to be rude, but I don't hear you grilling any of the other, sexually active people on the forum about 'doing things to their body'... just because I choose to only go 80% of the way, and they choose to go 100%, am I magically held to a higher standard?

I made a choice to forgo intercourse until love+comittment (marriage)... I think that is a positive choice. If I choose to have oral sex, to masturbate, to do whatever the hell else I want to do, it's quite irrelevent to the first decision to forgo intercourse.

 

[Aeroil]

There is no physical measure for virginity for a male, you HAVE to either know him or ask him etc.

The only physical measure for a female is the hymen, and that can be broken other ways.

All in the mind, the measure for this is gonna change per person.
Personally I think it's getting sexual release from another person, but whatever.

 

[Netzach]

There is no physical measure for virginity for a male, you HAVE to either know him or ask him etc.

The only physical measure for a female is the hymen, and that can be broken other ways.

All in the mind, the measure for this is gonna change per person.
Personally I think it's getting sexual release from another person, but whatever.

Agree with your definition. And if it's lack of a hymen that makes you not a virgin, there's a balance beam I fell on or a saddle somewhere that's one very lucky stud.

 

[SweetDommes]

OK, first, y'all are WAY off topic here, and honestly, I feel this discussion would be better held in a much more private forum.

Second, Jason - I believe the point is that while you think that you are doing something special in "choosing to save that one act for whomever it is I spend my life with," whoever you end up with might not feel that way. They may feel that it was silly to keep your "techincal virginity" when you were having oral with X number of people. You also have some problems in your other line of thought - the whole STD thing. However, I will save my lecture for another time and place.

And now, back on topic: As a Domme - I like to give oral from time to time because well ... I like it. I like knowing that they can't help their reactions, knowing that all I have to do is apply a little pressure with my teeth and they can't do anything to stop me from doing whatever I want to do. I have been known to tie a boy up and then blow him simply because he told me that he doesn't get much out of recieving oral and I was determined to prove him wrong (I did, for the record )

 

[catalina_francisco]

I do my research, and I'm not an idiot.

AIDs transmission goes in this order: Anal --> Vaginal --> Oral ::: I was listening to a speaker from the Centers for Disease Control on local talkradio... he was talking about likelyhood of transmission of AIDS and other STDs. He said that, basically, you're more likely to be struck by lightning 5 times in your life than to catch AIDS through oral sex.

I know other STDS that doesn't apply, but I do know that for most viral-based ones it does. Herpes and other things can be transmitted via oral sex, but then again, it goes about knowing your partner. I'm very aware of who I do things with...

As far as the "pregnant through play" thing goes, I understand that, I've heard of it, and I'm aware of it during play.



You're looking at it from the wrong perspective...

How many guys, my age, have already had multiple partners (intercourse)? A ton. I mean, a ton. Not to be rude, but I don't hear you grilling any of the other, sexually active people on the forum about 'doing things to their body'... just because I choose to only go 80% of the way, and they choose to go 100%, am I magically held to a higher standard?

I made a choice to forgo intercourse until love+comittment (marriage)... I think that is a positive choice. If I choose to have oral sex, to masturbate, to do whatever the hell else I want to do, it's quite irrelevent to the first decision to forgo intercourse.

I didn't say you were an idiot, though I do think you niave in some ways. I also was not grilling you, but you have mentioned regularly about your virginity and why you feel it is special, and often your views about people who are in open relationships for whatever reason and how you cannot accept that in your life, so I think when you put forth a view that purity is not impaired by your offering your cock to several mouths as opposed to pussies, and you are not open to STD;s that way, it is a point for discussion in that I don't share your view of purity or virginity or safe sex. I am also not totally convinced you would feel so great about knowing your future wife had blown several men, and had the favour returned, though you might surprise me there and be quite willing to sit next to them in church and laugh about it. Masturbation by the way, does not bother me and does not in my view have much to do with virginity except perhaps in terms of technicalities....it is not usually about sharing an intimate experience and your body with others.

As to 'grilling' others about what they do....if you want to call it grilling when discussing differences and views, I have often done so simply because no discussion and growth takes place in an environment where everyone does the exact same thing, pats each other on the back, and agrees with all that is said. Your choice is yours to make, I just don't share your view that it is safe and pure and 'saving' yourself for marriage as you feel it is, nor do I feel it makes you a better person than those who have sex. I actually had a few friends who gave me that speech when we were teenagers, and who lead a much more pure life than you, but once we were all in our 30's, had some life and marriage experiences, more than one told me in confidence they then envied me and wished they had followed my lead instead of taking the white wedding thing so seriously. Perhaps it is something you might also feel differently about someday.

All that aside, this is a porn site and not a place where virginity and sexual purity are usually touted as a model most favoured. Just as you have your POV, with a few decades life experience, so do I.

Catalina

 

[Aeroil]

OK, first, y'all are WAY off topic here, and honestly, I feel this discussion would be better held in a much more private forum.

Second, Jason - I believe the point is that while you think that you are doing something special in "choosing to save that one act for whomever it is I spend my life with," whoever you end up with might not feel that way. They may feel that it was silly to keep your "techincal virginity" when you were having oral with X number of people. You also have some problems in your other line of thought - the whole STD thing. However, I will save my lecture for another time and place.

And now, back on topic: As a Domme - I like to give oral from time to time because well ... I like it. I like knowing that they can't help their reactions, knowing that all I have to do is apply a little pressure with my teeth and they can't do anything to stop me from doing whatever I want to do. I have been known to tie a boy up and then blow him simply because he told me that he doesn't get much out of recieving oral and I was determined to prove him wrong (I did, for the record )

Haha, wow Karen, usually you're not one for squirm-inducing writing.

 

[SweetDommes]

Haha, wow Karen, usually you're not one for squirm-inducing writing.

Heh, glad you liked it I don't normally feel the need to share details, but in this case ... I couldn't resist (you should see what I've done to one of our potentials the last few nights )

 

[Aeroil]

Heh, glad you liked it I don't normally feel the need to share details, but in this case ... I couldn't resist (you should see what I've done to one of our potentials the last few nights )

If there were videos I could.

 

[Netzach]

And now, back on topic: As a Domme - I like to give oral from time to time because well ... I like it. I like knowing that they can't help their reactions, knowing that all I have to do is apply a little pressure with my teeth and they can't do anything to stop me from doing whatever I want to do. I have been known to tie a boy up and then blow him simply because he told me that he doesn't get much out of recieving oral and I was determined to prove him wrong (I did, for the record )

I think this is a good topic, active blowing for Dommes. I think a lot of us are encouraged to think of going down as a "sub" thing. Maybe it's because going down is so *not* a sub thing in the lesbian community that I never felt especially service-oriented about going down...however I do notice that I've come to enjoy/engage in oral less often now than when I was vanilla, there's a lot of "that's a sub thing" stigma on the act, and I admit I'm open to influence after a certain point.

 

[jdmct]

sub act

it's the attitude, not the act IMHO

 

[catalina_francisco]

it's the attitude, not the act IMHO

..And what I have learned.....why should a Dom/me deny their pleasure simply because someone else may think it inappropriate.....the Dom/me gets what the Dom/me wants.

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

All very valid, all notions I subscribe to, and yet I find myself doing it less and I am certain that perceptions of the act are part of the reason why.

We are social creatures, as individualistic as we may be.

 

[shy slave]

..And what I have learned.....why should a Dom/me deny their pleasure simply because someone else may think it inappropriate.....the Dom/me gets what the Dom/me wants.

Catalina

It terms of oral thats an interesting point Catalina.

I have said before I HATE recieving oral, really hate it both the physical and the pyschological aspects.

I can't cope with anyone being 'there'. It feels wrong from a placement point of view (does that make sense?).

I felt this long before I realised i was a submissive, having a man concentrating on me just mentally confused me.

However if he wants to, he should be able to, regardless of my wishes.
Its not a hard limit for me in the sense that it does not physically hurt me, but it does mess up my mind.

He and I have talked about this often, he believes (and up to a point I agree), if he wants to do that he should do so.

Anyway after a couple of galasses of red wine and talking about fantasies he did give me an orgasm through oral.
I was amazed to say the least.

However when he tried to reapeat it at a different time I just froze, then got bored and mentally did other things in my mind until he finished.
Not sexy or erotic and I was back to hating it for all the reasons I had before.

So now i have a question for PYLs who have pyls who dislike oral.
Do you still do this when you want to and does it give you pleasure knowing the other person dislikes it or do you choose not to do this.

From a mental viewpoint does it feel like submission or switching when you give your pyl oral regardless of their like or dislike of it?

 

[jasonlf]

Second, Jason - I believe the point is that while you think that you are doing something special in "choosing to save that one act for whomever it is I spend my life with," whoever you end up with might not feel that way. They may feel that it was silly to keep your "techincal virginity" when you were having oral with X number of people.

That helps me understand what was meant a little better.

I hope I wasn't giving the impression that I'm sticking my dick in every open mouth. I don't lay a finger on a girl I'm not dating, period. And by "dating" I mean for more than just a few weeks. (with one exception, which I'm not proud of, it was a lapse in judgement)

 

[SweetDommes]

..And what I have learned.....why should a Dom/me deny their pleasure simply because someone else may think it inappropriate.....the Dom/me gets what the Dom/me wants.

Catalina

EXACTLY!!! And that's part of why I do it ... because it is seen as a "sub" thing to do (even though it's not when a Dom goes down on his femsub ) they totally don't expect it