Operations Fast & Furious

[MeeMie]

Biden wrote the original Clinton gun ban bill.

That right?

Amazing that he isn't tripping all over his tongue related to this matter ...HAHA!

They must have him locked up someplace with tape over his mouth and all the microphones and telephones disconnected.

 

[koalabear]

That right?

Amazing that he isn't tripping all over his tongue related to this matter ...HAHA!

They must have him locked up someplace with tape over his mouth and all the microphones and telephones disconnected.

Just like fellow Democrats Edward Kennedy, Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, Biden has voted for, and actively pushed, major anti-gun bills, including those:

Banning semi-automatic firearms;
Banning hunting, sporting and self-defense ammunition;
Banning magazines holding more than 10 rounds; and
Imposing a waiting period on handgun sales.

Biden also voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. And he voted against the confirmation of Supreme Court Justices who support the Second Amendment, and voted for the confirmation of Justices who do not.

The Brady Campaign sums it up in a straightforward fashion: "Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign." According to the gun prohibition activist group, "Senator Biden was a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994. He also worked hard for passage of the Brady Law (sic)."

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4160

 

[miles]

Holder's pompous arrogance reminded me of the defendants in Judgement at Nuremberg.

He's disgusting.

 

[unregistered]

 

[unregistered]

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Did you hear the clips of Biden talking about and praising Corzine's economic acumen?

He was the essential man!



Two great hearings putting the greatest minds of the Democrat Party on display and the press is focused on the clear and present danger of

*gasp*

Newt Gingrich! What a disaster that guy would be for our country!!!

 

[miles]

Holder is going to emerge unscathed from this.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

He's a BLACK DEMOCRAT.




Think Marion Barry...


It's affirmative action. Anything they do bad is the fault of the conservative white man...

 

[miles]

He's a BLACK DEMOCRAT.




Think Marion Barry...


It's affirmative action. Anything they do bad is the fault of the conservative white man...

http://scientopia.org/blogs/guestblog/files/2011/07/get-out-of-jail-card.jpg

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They would never put a Democrat in prison stripes!

No demeaning frog marches!

When censured, it is done at midnight and only partially as not to embarrass the BLACK man...

 

[MeeMie]

Eric Holder and the Fantasy of "Accountable Government"



Don't try using Holder's lame excuses when he's grilling YOU



Attorney General Eric Holder spent the day testifying before the House Oversight Committee on Thursday. It was a rowdy affair. Committee Democrats spent most of their time trying to derail the hearing or turn it into a circus, as when Representative Judy Chu (D-CA) congratulated Holder, the man who quashed investigation into Black Panther voter intimidation, for his work on behalf of “voter’s rights.” Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA) made a bizarre, but spirited, effort to work “white supremacists” into the discussion of Operation Fast and Furious, in which Holder’s Justice Department pushed American guns across the border into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) did a lot of shouting, but couldn’t quite remember the name of slain U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.


Very little of substance was learned – Holder is still as inscrutable as the statues of Easter Island, and steadfastly maintained that “taking responsibility” does not involve anyone in his department losing their jobs – but there was some great theater. Meanwhile, the hundreds of victims killed by Fast and Furious guns remain dead, and the Brian Terry case remains under impenetrable government seal.

Holder was so evasive and uncooperative that Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) described him as a “hostile witness.”



Perhaps the key exchange of the afternoon came when Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) tore into Holder for the rather amazing lack of communication that ostensibly plagues the Obama Administration. Holder claims he doesn’t read his briefings, and therefore had no idea what the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms was up to while Operation Fast and Furious was in effect. Furthermore, Holder told Chaffetz that after becoming aware of the problem, he did not discuss the “gun walking” disaster with any of the following people: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, President Barack Obama, the president of Mexico, or the attorney general of Mexico.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-eQF7leM_U&feature=player_embedded

“You have routinely argued that you have been oblivious and disengaged in this operation,” an exasperated Chaffetz told the Attorney General, “and I buy that to a large extent.” Nobody laughed. In an Aaron Sorkin TV show, there would have been laughter. Has a character as improbable as Eric Holder turned up in one of those shows yet?


“We have a dead border patrol agent,” Chaffetz continued. “We have 2,000 missing guns. We have 200 dead in Mexico. We have dead government officials in Mexico. We have a Mexican helicopter with troops in it shot – three of them are wounded – back in May of this year. We have fifty-plus members of Congress calling for your resignation over this. And you’ve never spoken to any one of these people about this operation?”


After some back-and-forth about how he spends his time, and the Talmudic interpretation of his department’s press releases, Holder finally told Chaffetz, “You don’t understand how Washington works.”


And there you have it, folks. This is all about the way “Washington works.”


Nobody talks to anybody. Nobody reads their email. No one admits to anything. All the records are redacted and sealed. And most significantly in light of Holder’s testimony today, even the most cosmic levels of failure don’t necessarily mean anyone loses their jobs. For that matter, Operation Fast and Furious was a vast expansion of an earlier program from the Bush era, Operation Wide Receiver, which featured far more serious attempts at tracking the “walked” guns – they were actually fitted with miniature radio transmitters, which the drug cartels figured out how to defeat.


And yet, these are the people who want to run our health care. These are the people who claim they can protect us from the rapacious appetites of capitalism. Even as Holder was testifying, elsewhere on Capitol Hill, the former Democrat senator and governor of New Jersey, Jon Corzine, was taking the Fifth when asked why he blatantly violated financial regulations he helped to write.


Every politician swears his tireless devotion to “accountability.” All of them promise to cut “waste, fraud, and abuse.” But accountability simply does not, and never will, mean the same thing to politicians that it does to the rest of us. Government holds private citizens and organizations strictly accountable for misdeeds, from outright fraud to improperly filed paperwork, but the government will never hold itself accountable with the same intensity. That’s not a matter of partisan politics. It’s built right into the concept of Big Government, almost by definition. Who watches the watchmen?


Leaving aside the body count of Operation Fast and Furious, a private organization running huge programs with comparable degrees of failure would face the music from its customers and shareholders if the government didn’t get them first… and woe to any CEO who tried Eric Holder’s lame excuses on federal investigators.


Politicians repeatedly sell us the chimerical promise of a government that can be held “accountable” in a way that is even remotely comparable to the way citizens are held responsible. When oversight hearings degenerate into a circus, Big Government and its media worshippers grin and tell us we can always hold congressional clowns accountable at the ballot box… in a couple of years. Assuming they don’t come from safe seats, and local voters aren’t so gorged on pork-barrel spending that they don’t much care about the stupid things said in Capitol Hill hearing rooms.


It’s not good enough. It will never be good enough. The political class promises us that it can be entrusted with control of our lives, and claim they’re a far safer bet than “taking our chances” with the private sector. Well, on Thursday that political class made an abject mockery of oversight while protecting their hides from an outrage that killed hundreds of people. The very same munchkins were quite eager to use the very same outrage to promote gun laws that would give them even more control over our lives. Run afoul of those laws, and you will not be allowed to defend yourself by telling Washington that it doesn’t understand how your town works.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yeah, he'd be the perfect fit over at Freddie and Fannie, the USPS, the iPAB board, the NLRB...,



..., President of Harvard...,

 

[koalabear]

Did you notice his defenders, calling for more gun control? Let's just forget that Holder and company were trying to manufacture a crisis to justify additional meaningless gun control.It's clear the libs are willing to break the law to get that control.

The end justifies the means, what's a little collateral damage along the way.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The end justifies the means, what's a little collateral damage along the way.

The only people who become border agents are the stupid and the desperate.

If we opened the border, they wouldn't get shot!



We would arm them with water bottles, guidebooks and job applications.

 

[koalabear]

The only people who become border agents are the stupid and the desperate.

If we opened the border, they wouldn't get shot!



We would arm them with water bottles, guidebooks and job applications.

and who really cares how many "smelly brown people" (as lil chihuahua daily calls them) get killed in the process.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Attorney General Milo Minderbinder

December 11, 2011
By Clarice Feldman

It is a true pity that Joseph Heller, author of Catch 22, is no longer with us. He deserved the chance to observe his character Milo Minderbinder, come to life. Minderbinder is Heller's prototype of deceitful, arrogant authority gone so awry he undercuts the very reason for his post and its operations. I'm talking about our own Attorney General Eric Holder under whose watch arms were shipped to Mexican drug gangs, U.S. agents laundered the cartels' drug money, and hundreds of Mexicans and one -- perhaps two -- federal agents were murdered with the illegally sold guns.

Minderbinder's motive was money and he was blind to the dire consequences of his conduct to his fellow troops and country:

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: "What's good for M & M Enterprises will be good for the country."

Holder's motivation is still less apparent -- or at least it was until he appeared this past week after a late hour document dump days before. Those documents indicate, what others had long suspected: Our government -- in particular those agencies charged with enforcing drug and gun laws -- were violating those laws and destabilizing the area along the Mexican border, Mexico itself, and jeopardizing the lives of citizens and law enforcement agents in both countries -- seemingly in order to make its case that we need more gun control. Our lives are secondary to this administration's political agenda, an agenda which , in any event, would appear to violate the Second Amendment.

...

While a number of bloggers had early on voiced their suspicion that Fast and Furious had been undertaken to support the White House's anti-gun agenda, there was little direct proof of it. CBS' Sheryl Attkisson is to my knowledge the first to provide evidence in support of this logical supposition noting that emails in the most recent document pile showed ATF officials were using the weapon transfers they demanded as justification for new gun sale regulations they called "Demand letter 3."
As IBD explains in a post which cannot be improved upon, the chutzpah of the operation beggars belief:

We say deliberate because congressional testimony by ATF agents demonstrates how the tracking of Fast and Furious weapons stopped at the border and that requests to interdict the weapons transfers and arrest the gun traffickers were denied by higher-ups.

Demand Letter 3 was so named because it was the third ATF attempt to have Southwest gun shops report all long-gun (rifle or shotgun) sales to the ATF -- even those to law-abiding American citizens with all the proper registration and other forms.

On July 14, 2010, five months before Terry's murder, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, the ATF's Phoenix special agent in charge of Fast and Furious: "Bill, can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time? We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long-gun sales. Thanks."

On Jan. 24, as the ATF was preparing to announce arrests in Fast and Furious, another email showed Newell saw it as an opportunity "to address multiple sales on long guns issue."

After the press conference, Chait emailed Newell that in "light of our request for Demand Letter 3, this case could be a strong supporting factor if we can determine how many multiple sales of long guns occurred during the course of the case."
Two earlier Demand Letters affected only a handful of dealers.

As it was funneling some 2,000 guns to Mexican criminals and drug lords, the Justice Department announced April 25 that it was requiring 8,500 gun stores in Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico to report individual purchases of multiple rifles of greater than .22 caliber by law-abiding American citizens to the ATF because -- get this -- such guns are "frequently recovered at violent crime scenes near the Southwest border."

Perhaps the reference to Milo Minderbinder is even closer than I have suggested. For as bad as the arms shipments to the cartels are, millions of dollars in laundered drug money is also involved. As American Thinker and the New York Times reported:

We now have several news outlets reporting that the DEA has decided to be in the business of laundering the money for Mexican drug cartels. Apparently, it is a new program and involves significant sums of money. The NY Times sums it up in one paragraph:

One D.E.A. official said it was not unusual for American agents to pick up two or three loads of Mexican drug money each week. A second official said that as Mexican cartels extended their operations from Latin America to Africa, Europe and the Middle East, the reach of the operations had grown as well. When asked how much money had been laundered as a part of the operations, the official would only say, "A lot."

Call me cynical, but I cannot imagine millions of dollars being laundered in a carelessly executed and supervised operation without a substantial amount of it ending up in the pockets of those who laundered it and those to whom they reported.

...

The Attorney General remains in office and announced he has no intention of resigning. Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner has said impeachment is an option, Obama remains silent on the issue. Let's hope Congress has no intention of letting up and that the dominant media finally realizes the breathtaking scandal they (with rare exceptions) have been sitting on in its efforts to protect the President they did so much to put in office. I doubt the public will find the Holder confection palatable.

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: I want to serve this to the men. Taste it and let me know what you think.

[Yossarian takes a bite]

Yossarian: What is it?

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Chocolate covered cotton.

Yossarian: What are you, crazy?

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: No good, huh?

Yossarian: For Christ's sake, you didn't even take the seeds out.

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Is it really that bad?

Yossarian: It's cotton!

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/attorney_general_milo_minderbinder.html#ixzz1gEHQd88T

 

[MeeMie]

Holder may be holding on to private emails about Fast and Furious



A largely overlooked exchange from Thursday’s House Judiciary Committee hearing includes what appears to be an admission from Attorney General Eric Holder that emails to and from him about Operation Fast and Furious may exist, and that he’s refusing to provide them to Congress.



The possibility was first addressed during an exchange with House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, who also sits on the House Judiciary Committee, early in the hearing.

“Most of the 5,000 documents you turned over are emails,” Issa said to Holder. “Mr. Attorney General, I have a question for you. Not one of these emails, in fact, is yours. Aren’t you a prolific emailer?”

Holder responded that, “No,” he is not a “prolific emailer.”

Issa followed up: “Don’t you email?”

Holder responded in the affirmative. “Do you have a personal email account as well as an attorney general email account?” Issa pressed.

“I have an email account at the Justice Department, yes,” Holder equivocated.

“Do you have a personal email?” Issa asked again. Holder replied that, “yes” he has a personal email account.

“Do you regularly email to Lanny Breuer, your former partner, and your criminal division head?” Issa then asked.

“I wouldn’t say regularly,” Holder answered. “But there are only a limited number of people who know my email address in the Justice Department.”


Issa, still not satisfied with Holder’s response, pressed further. “Let’s cut to the chase,” Issa said. “Don’t you think it’s a little conspicuous that there’s not one email to or from you related to Fast and Furious in any way, shape or form?”

Instead of answering whether or not there were any emails to or from him, Holder said the Department of Justice’s document production to the House oversight committee had been “unprecedented.”

“There are a variety of reasons why the emails we have shared with you are there,” Holder said. “We have shared in an unprecedented way emails and information that no Justice Department and no attorney general has ever authorized before. You have deliberative information contained in that.”

Issa has issued subpoenas and made official requests for many of the emails Holder has withheld from Congress. Because Holder isn’t citing any legal or constitutional exemption, Issa said later in the hearing that he “stands in contempt of Congress” if he continues to stonewall.

“But isn’t it true that executive privilege does not flow to the attorney general, only to the office of the president?” Issa asked during that initial exchange. “So, deliberate process within law enforcement, in your department, in fact, doesn’t deserve executive privilege. As the chairman said going on, you haven’t cited any reason why these have not been delivered.”

Holder continued to avoid the line of questioning, and said that he’s provided an “unprecedented” amount of documents to Congress. But, he still wouldn’t cite a legal reason why he’s refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas and requests.

“In making production determinations, we have followed what attorneys general in the past have always used — applicable standards, whether these are Republican or Democrat attorneys general,” Holder said. “The information we’ve provided you has been responsive, has been, I think, wholesome and also unprecedented.”

In a later exchange Holder had with Florida Republican Rep. Sandy Adams, Holder all but said he has used his personal email account to communicate with Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer and his former deputy attorney general and now chief of staff, Gary Grindler, about Fast and Furious.

“You have a personal email account. Did you at any time, at any time, email on your personal account with Lanny Breuer and Gary Grindler with regards to Fast and Furious — ever?” Adams asked Holder. “Yes or no?”

“I don’t know,” Holder responded.

“Would you check and get back with us?” Adams further pressed Holder. “If you need some help, I’m sure your agency personnel can get into those computers.”

Holder then tripled down on his claims that the DOJ has provided “unprecedented” levels of documents to Congress, but refused to cite a legal reason why he won’t give up the emails, if they exist.

“Well, with regard to the provision of emails, I though I made clear that after February 4, it is not our intention to provide email information consistent with the way in which the Justice Department has always conducted itself,” Holder said in response to Adams’ questioning. “The exception that I made — that I made in the hope that the Justice Department would be seen as transparent — was to go against that tradition to make available deliberative material around the February 4 letter.”

During an interview with The Daily Caller on Friday, during which Adams called for Holder’s resignation over the Fast and Furious scandal, she said that if Holder hasn’t misled Congress and has nothing to hide, he should deliver the communications.

“I do, I truly do think Holder should provide those emails,” Adams told TheDC. “If there were a part of anything to do with Fast and Furious, he should release those. As I said to him, if you have clean hands, why won’t you release them?”

Adams added that Holder’s claim that his document production has been “unprecedented” doesn’t appear to hold much legal weight, and doesn’t really matter if he’s refusing to comply with lawfully issued congressional subpoenas.

“I wouldn’t think so that Holder’s claims his document production has been ‘unprecedented’ is enough,” Adams said in a phone interview. “What’s unprecedented is the fact that we have an attorney general who was allowing guns to walk across international borders. As a matter of fact, walking guns anywhere is bad, but it’s compounded because they walked across international borders.”

Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program overseen by the DOJ. The operation facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the known intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else. In Fast and Furious, the straw purchasers were known to be trafficking the weapons into Mexico, effectively arming Mexican drug cartels.

At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.




http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/11/holder-may-be-holding-onto-private-emails-about-fast-and-furious/

 

[koalabear]

Why would you expect him to read his mail.

 

[MeeMie]

He's such a fucking liar but it galls me that he's so arrogant to fly in the face of Congress ... it's like that whole crew believes that they're above the law.

 

[miles]

He's such a fucking liar but it galls me that he's so arrogant to fly in the face of Congress ... it's like that whole crew believes that they're above the law.

They are...all of them are going to walk.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Obama's Watergate?

Mr. Holder clearly knew about Fast and Furious and did nothing to stop it. This is because the administration wanted to use the excuse of increased violence on the border and weapons-smuggling into Mexico to justify tighter gun-control legislation. Mr. Holder is fighting ferociously to prevent important internal Justice documents from falling into the hands of congressional investigators. If the full nature of his involvement is discovered, the Obama presidency will be in peril.

Fast and Furious is even worse than Watergate for one simple reason: No one died because of President Nixon’s political dirty tricks and abuse of government power. But Brian Terry is dead; and there are still 1,500 missing guns threatening still more lives.

What did Mr. Obama know? Massive gun-smuggling by the U.S. government into a foreign country does not happen without the explicit knowledge and approval of leading administration officials. It’s too big, too risky and too costly. Mr. Holder may not be protecting just himself and his cronies. Is he protecting the president?

Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president of the Edmund Burke Institute.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/15/obamas-watergate-758295296/

 

[MeeMie]

Obama’s Watergate


Officials cover up culpability for gun smuggling and murder



A year ago this week, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. He died protecting his country from brutal Mexican gangsters. Two AK-47 assault rifles were found at his death site. We now know the horrifying truth: Agent Terry was killed by weapons that were part of an illegal Obama administration operation to smuggle arms to the dangerous drug cartels. He was a victim of his own government. This is not only a major scandal; it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials. It is President Obama's Watergate.

Operation Fast and Furious was run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and overseen by the Justice Department. It started under the leadership of Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. Fast and Furious enabled straw gun purchases from licensed dealers in Arizona, in which more than 2,000 weapons were smuggled to Mexican drug kingpins. ATF claims it was seeking to track the weapons as part of a larger crackdown on the growing violence in the Southwest. Instead, ATF effectively has armed murderous gangs. About 300 Mexicans have been killed by Fast and Furious weapons. More than 1,400 guns remain lost. Agent Terry likely will not be the last U.S. casualty.

Mr. Holder insists he was unaware of what took place until after media reports of the scandal appeared in early 2011. This is false. Such a vast operation only could have occurred with the full knowledge and consent of senior administration officials. Massive gun-running and smuggling is not carried out by low-level ATF bureaucrats unless there is authorization from the top. There is a systematic cover-up.

Congressional Republicans, however, are beginning to shed light on the scandal. Led by Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Rep. Darrell Issa of California, a congressional probe is exposing the Justice Department's rampant criminality and deliberate stonewalling. Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer, who heads the department's criminal division, helped craft a February letter to Congress that denied ATF had ever walked guns into Mexico. Yet, under pressure from congressional investigators, the department later admitted that Mr. Breuer knew about ATF gun-smuggling as far back as April 2010. In other words, Mr. Breuer has been misleading Congress. He should resign - or be fired.

Instead, Mr. Holder tenaciously insists that Mr. Breuer will keep his job. He needs to keep his friends close and potential witnesses even closer. Another example is former acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson. Internal documents show Mr. Melson directly oversaw Fast and Furious, including monitoring numerous straw purchases of AK-47s. He has admitted to congressional investigators that he, along with high-ranking ATF leaders, reassigned every "manager involved in Fast and Furious" after the scandal surfaced on Capitol Hill and in the press. Mr. Melson said he was ordered by senior Justice officials to be silent regarding the reassignments. Hence, ATF managers who possess intimate and damaging information - especially on the role of the Justice Department - essentially have been promoted to cushy bureaucratic jobs. Their silence has been bought, their complicity swept under the rug. Mr. Melson has been transferred to Justice's main office, where he serves as a "senior adviser" on forensic science in the department's Office of Legal Policy. Rather than being punished, Mr. Melson has been rewarded for his incompetence and criminal negligence.

Mr. Holder and his aides have given misleading, false and contradictory testimony on Capitol Hill. Perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power - these are high crimes and misdemeanors. Mr. Holder should be impeached. Like most liberals, he is playing the victim card, claiming Mr. Issa is a modern-day Joseph McCarthy conducting a judicial witch hunt. Regardless of this petty smear, Mr. Holder must be held responsible and accountable - not only for the botched operation, but for his flagrant attempts to deflect blame from the administration.

Mr. Holder is a shameless careerist and a ruthless Beltway operative. For years, his out-of-control Justice Department has violated the fundamental principle of our democracy, the rule of law. He has refused to prosecute members of the New Black Panthers for blatant voter intimidation that took place in the 2008 election. Career Justice lawyers have confessed publicly that Mr. Holder will not pursue cases in which the perpetrators are black and the victims white. States such as Arizona and Alabama are being sued for simply attempting to enforce federal immigration laws. Mr. Holder also opposes voter identification cards, thereby enabling fraud and vote-stealing at the ballot box. What else can we expect from one who, during the Clinton administration, helped pardon notorious tax cheat Marc Rich and Puerto Rican terrorists?

Mr. Holder clearly knew about Fast and Furious and did nothing to stop it. This is because the administration wanted to use the excuse of increased violence on the border and weapons-smuggling into Mexico to justify tighter gun-control legislation. Mr. Holder is fighting ferociously to prevent important internal Justice documents from falling into the hands of congressional investigators. If the full nature of his involvement is discovered, the Obama presidency will be in peril.

Fast and Furious is even worse than Watergate for one simple reason: No one died because of President Nixon's political dirty tricks and abuse of government power. But Brian Terry is dead; and there are still 1,500 missing guns threatening still more lives.

What did Mr. Obama know? Massive gun-smuggling by the U.S. government into a foreign country does not happen without the explicit knowledge and approval of leading administration officials. It's too big, too risky and too costly.

Mr. Holder may not be protecting just himself and his cronies.

Is he protecting the president?




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/15/obamas-watergate-758295296/

 

[koalabear]

Breaking news!!!!!!!!

Attacks against Holder are racist.

 

[Jagged]

Can anyone explain to me why the media isn't talking about this issue every day. I mean corruption or incompetence under any administration is a major issue.

Holder lied people died comes to mind, but nobody even the OWS crowd are saying a damn thing about it.

Mexican nationals and police officers were murdered because of this operation and nobody cares. It's so depressing.

Where are all the people who are stilling scream about the US government selling/giving weapons to unsavory people decades back? Why is this administration getting a pass? Anyone going to bring this up during the election?

 

[unregistered]