Operations Fast & Furious

[Ishmael]

Issa is going about this quite methodically, which means at the speed of molasses January. Fine by me on that count. It'll make for quite a book.

Meanwhile over in another committee the investigation is starting into all the money the government has pissed away on those 'green' companies. I'm loving the way the DoE folks are assuring everyone that the public's financial ass is covered, like GM maybe?

And it appears that maybe, just maybe, that son of a bitch Corzine will finally have a day in court before a jury of pissed off New Yorkers. I'd love to see that jury made up of the OWS crowd.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Well, in politics, timing is everything...

People will be paying more attention after the primaries...

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Seems Lanny Breuer's ass is in a big sling right now as he apologizes for not being more aware of Fast and Furious, as we inch closer and closer to Holder himself. Both should lose their jobs and become the subject of grand jury investigations.

But after Christmas...

 

[MeeMie]

More In Congress Calling For Holder To Resign




Seventeen members of Congress have now gone on record indicating Obama Attorney General Eric Holder should resign



Just last week it was reported eight Congressional members called for Eric Holder to resign his position as the nation’s Attorney General. Over the weekend that number ballooned to seventeen – with strong indications it will continue to increase further as Holder prepares for his sworn testimony before Congress currently scheduled for Dec.


Representative Dan Burton of Indiana gave scathing commentary regarding what he describes as Holder’s long history of misleading Congress that dates back to the Clinton administration:

I think he’s been a mistake from the very beginning…I don’t think he’s a trustworthy Attorney General. He’s a political animal. He’s more concerned about politics than he is about what’s right for the country. When I was chairman of government reform and oversight during the Clinton administration, we had Holder before my committee a number of times and he misled the committee. In fact, he lied. During his confirmation in the Senate, I sent a letter to the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Sen. Patrick Leahy, and I sent it to the other members of the committee as well, and I cited specific cases where Holder had not been straight with the committee and I said he should not be confirmed.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/31/c...r-holders-resignation-more-than-double-to-17/

 

[koalabear]

Lanny Breuer: Should have learned from past 'gun-walking' failure

A senior Justice Department official was aware last year that controversial “gun-walking” tactics were used in a gun-trafficking operation carried out five years ago during the Bush administration, but did not take aggressive steps to ensure that such techniques were not repeated in other federal investigations.

The same tactics of allowing the purchase of firearms so they could be tracked to gun traffickers and Mexican drug cartel leaders are now at the heart of a congressional investigation into the “Fast and Furious” operation carried out by the the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives during the Obama administration.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67303.html#ixzz1cYzr0TXz

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Forgeddabout it...

They're all busy with their Borking Clarence Calin threads...




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[koalabear]

Hey KB, you may have already posted this, if not take a look and behold the depths of dummyhood in the administration:

http://www.breitbart.tv/60-minutes-ambushes-nancy-pelosi/

and nancy is at the top of the heap.

 

[koalabear]

Justice Department Drops Rule That Would Let It Deny Existence of Sensitive Documents

The Justice Department says it is dropping a proposed rule that would have allowed officials to deny the existence of certain sensitive information, which critics said amounted to giving the government a license to "lie."

The decision comes a week after Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder saying the proposed rule "stands in stark contrast to both the president;s and your prior statements" about transparency and open government.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...et-it-deny-existence-sensitive/#ixzz1ch1RVdUY

 

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[koalabear]

Sorry about that KB, I posted the wrong url. Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nBIWSyoe6vA

Yep, it's posted here someplace, he has already been caught lying about knowing.

 

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[koalabear]

When is Holder scheduled to testify again before the House?

11/8 before the committee, he will be sworn in.

 

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[koalabear]

They ought to ask him that question directly. How did the President know before you did?

get ready for "for reasons of national security"........

 

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[koalabear]

No shit, or Executive Pprivilege.

or he could commit suicide in a park.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

They can't show the documents, Mexico is about to declare war...,






... from Oakland.

 

[koalabear]

Attorney General Eric Holder says a flawed investigation of arms traffickers called Operation Fast and Furious never should have occurred and must never happen again.

On the eve of an appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee where he faces tough questioning by Republicans, the attorney general says the mistakes in Fast and Furious should not deter the government from disrupting the dangerous flow of firearms along the Southwest border.


Holder, who says he learned of problems in Fast and Furious early this year when several agents complained of problems in the probe, has become a focal point for criticism in a congressional investigation by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. Republican critics have suggested Holder was informed of the problems as early as last July when the operation's name turned up repeatedly in weekly departmental reports. The reports provided updates on dozens of investigations, including Fast and Furious, but do not mention the gun-walking tactic.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501706_...fast-and-furious-never-again/?tag=mncol;lst;2

stay tuned for further adventures as the worm turns.

 

[MeeMie]

Uncovering The Cover-Up: The Truth About "Operation Fast And Furious"


by Adam Hasner



In Washington, the old joke is, “it's not the crime, it's the cover-up.”

I have always believed that to be terrible comment on the profoundly dysfunctional political culture of Washington. For most Americans, it is both the crime and the cover-up, and that is definitely the case with Fast and Furious.

Operation Fast and Furious might sound like the name of a Hollywood action movie, but the facts behind the flashy name tell a disheartening story. As widely reported, Fast and Furious spiraled out of control, leaving the Obama administration caught running a program that was not only dangerous but irresponsible. In the end, it directly contributed to the deaths of two federal law enforcement officers and led to the predictable age-old Washington game of cover-ups, deceptions, and fall-guy politics.

From the start, the operation was profoundly ill-advised and posed risks much greater than any conceivable payoff from a hypothetical criminal conspiracy case against Mexican drug gangs could have offered. Very simply, it did not meet the outside-the-Beltway common sense test.

It started with the claims of an “iron river” of guns flowing from the United States into Mexico. This “iron river” existed mostly in Obama administration talking points until the Justice Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) became one of the most active facilitators of guns to the Mexican drug cartels.

On April 16, 2009, President Obama visited Mexico and while there he commented on the drug war, saying, “This war is being waged with guns purchased not here but in the United States, more than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay on our shared border.” President Obama was not being honest then, and he is not being honest now about what he knew about Fast and Furious.

Only in Washington could a federal agency believe, as their internal emails show, that shipping guns to Mexican drug cartels would make America safer. Over the course of Fast and Furious, and under the supervision of the Justice Department and the ATF, thousands of weapons moved into the hands of known gun runners in an attempt to track the guns back to Mexican cartels.

When those weapons reached the hands of Mexican cartels, they were put to use, with grim results.

In December of 2010, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was gunned down by weapons placed in the hands of a Mexican drug gang by the Obama administration. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata was killed by a gun from the same program in February of this year. Despite the fact that thousands of guns changed hands, only when American law enforcement officers were killed, did any arrests actually take place.

It should not surprise anyone that an agency like the ATF, with a long history of management trouble and wrongheaded policy choices, continues to make errors. What is unforgivable is that the Obama Justice Department and the White House utterly failed to exercise any kind of oversight or supervision.

Internal emails from the ATF, the Justice Department, and the White House prove that senior Obama administration officials approved of, encouraged, and actually boasted about this outrageous program.

Even more troubling, as Members of Congress began asking questions, first of the ATF and then of the Justice Department, was the Obama administration's stonewalling, obfuscation, and outright lying. Eric Holder and his deputies, and the senior leadership of the ATF have worked to thwart Congressional oversight from the beginning. It has been a shameful performance.

Beginning today, Eric Holder will be forced to answer questions about his knowledge and involvement in Operation Fast and Furious and it is about time. For months Senator Chuck Grassley sought answers from both the Justice Department and the ATF over the death of Brian Terry and for months he was stonewalled. Only when Chairman Darrell Issa started issuing subpoenas did the Obama administration find the time to start explaining its actions.

Senior leaders in Washington have become used to shifting blame, avoiding accountability, and doing the Potomac Two-Step while claiming that “mistakes were made.” If Eric Holder is allowed to maintain his position after this, it is a sad comment about this White House's values, and a sadder comment on the political culture of Washington.

It is one thing to protect a White House from an embarrassing political failure or public relations mishap; it is completely another to orchestrate a far reaching cover-up of a government program that resulted in the deaths of two federal officers.

Instead of coming clean and working in a bipartisan fashion to get to the bottom of Fast and Furious, they denied everything and made counter accusations. Due to this, the Justice Department has not only further eroded public trust in government, but as suggested by the former Acting ATF Director Ken Melson, did so in an attempt to protect Obama administration political appointees.

Three years ago this month, President Obama was elected, partly based on a promised new era of transparency and accountability. But if the handling of the Fast and Furious scandal is any indication, the corruption inside the Beltway is not only unchecked but more dangerous than ever.

Eric Holder was briefed on this operation but now claims to have never read the briefing documents in question. This answer is not only insufficient but it is insulting to the families of two murdered federal officers and to the people of this country.

There are only two possible scenarios: Eric Holder was either incompetent in failing to exercise any kind of supervisory control over a rogue agency, or he is intentionally misrepresenting what he knew and when he knew it.

Either scenario justifies dismissing Eric Holder from the top law enforcement position in America.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Attorney General Eric Holder says a flawed investigation of arms traffickers called Operation Fast and Furious never should have occurred and must never happen again.

On the eve of an appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee where he faces tough questioning by Republicans, the attorney general says the mistakes in Fast and Furious should not deter the government from disrupting the dangerous flow of firearms along the Southwest border.


Holder, who says he learned of problems in Fast and Furious early this year when several agents complained of problems in the probe, has become a focal point for criticism in a congressional investigation by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. Republican critics have suggested Holder was informed of the problems as early as last July when the operation's name turned up repeatedly in weekly departmental reports. The reports provided updates on dozens of investigations, including Fast and Furious, but do not mention the gun-walking tactic.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501706_...fast-and-furious-never-again/?tag=mncol;lst;2

stay tuned for further adventures as the worm turns.

It never happened and even if it did it will never happen again, because it never happened...

 

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