Operations Fast & Furious

NRA
August 02, 2011
Minimizing Obama’s Fast and Furious Scandal

The elite media are at it again. They're trying to downplay the Operation Fast and Furious scandal that has rocked the Obama administration, and they're using the scandal to push the same tired calls for more gun control laws.

The Washington Post, for example, which has largely ignored the scandal, ran a front page story recently, but made sure to quote anonymous Obama administration officials who praised the gunrunning strategy and claimed it was "unfair" for Congress to investigate. And the newspaper's recent editorial quoted an ATF agent who believes that we need more gun laws, but ignored Congressional testimony of other agents who said all the gun laws we need are already on the books.

The Post also continues to report on the scandal as if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was the only agency involved in Operation Fast and Furious. Instead, we now know that DEA, ICE, FBI and even the IRS had knowledge of the program. High-ranking officials at the Justice Department were aware of the program, and ATF official Bill Newell testified before the House Oversight Committee that he had also talked with a National Security Council staffer about the operation.

Thankfully, there's at least one media outlet where you can get the truth about Operation Fast and Furious: NRANews.com. From interviews with members of Congress and newsmakers to the most complete coverage of the House Oversight Committee hearings anywhere, NRANews.com is shining a light on the biggest scandal of the Obama administration, even while the media elites carry the administration's water.


"thankfully, there's one news source you can trust.... US!"
:rolleyes:

Still talking about this shit, huh?

loser.
 
Here we go, the White House now wants to put the punch line on their strategy...


Gun industry representatives said they would file lawsuits Wednesday challenging new gun-control measures by the Obama administration, an effort the nation's top lawyer vowed to "vigorously oppose."

The Justice Department, facing growing questions over Operation Fast and Furious, a controversial sting targeting Mexican drug cartels and American gunrunners, announced last month that it would begin requiring firearms dealers along the nation’s Southwest border to report multiple sales of certain semi-automatic rifles. The department said such rifles are "highly sought after by dangerous drug trafficking organizations," and the new measures would help "detect and disrupt" weapons trafficking networks.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-doj-vows-to-vigorously-oppose/#ixzz1U3Ma23nn


They walked those guns into Mexico not to fight the drug war, but to fight their war on the second amendment...

They could give a shit about a little collateral damage, like LIBERTY.
 
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We see the quid pro quo...

"U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

"The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. The court in Chicago held a status hearing today and ordered the U.S. government to respond to Zambada-Niebla's motion containing the allegations by Sept. 11.

"The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the ATF's "Operation Fast and Furious," except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States over a five-year period, the documents allege."

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410

We give them the guns so they will kill people and give us the pretext to enact more gun laws, in return they get to ship cole while we look away and whistle Dixie...
 
For Chairman Darrell Issa, it's clear his investigation into Operation Fast and Furious has been about going after corruption within the Obama Justice Department to ensure American lives aren't lost as the result of poorly thought-out government programs. Today, Issa has released a new video honoring the fallen U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, who died as a result of Operation Fast and Furious, which Townhall has been reporting on in depth (read more here).

Before becoming a U.S. Border Patrol Agent, Terry served honorably and bravely as a U.S. Marine.

Issa has also introduced legislation to name a border patrol station in Arizona after Terry. According to the House's press release, it's only the second border station ever named after a fallen agent.

Watch the video, and thank a border agent for their sacrifice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/08/03/issa_releases_video_honoring_brian_terry
 
"thankfully, there's one news source you can trust.... US!"
:rolleyes:

Still talking about this shit, huh?

loser.



Classic example of the loonie mantra quoted.



The classic loonie debate:

• loonie gang bang
• fault the source
• point finger elsewhere
• namecalling
• insult integrity and intelligence
• answer a question with another question
• refuses to read info stating already knows what's in it
• Deflect, Deny, Divert
• BLAME BUSH!

It's a pattern easily recognizable, used in varying degrees, simultaneously and/or one jab at a time
 
It is disgraceful what has been going on in this operation. Already two law enforcement officers have been murdered because of the carelessness of this operation.

You'd think a secret illegal operation running guns south of the border would grab the media's attention....

This all was done to prove a misrepresentation of the date to prove Americans trade guns for drugs. It hasn't happened not nearly the extant the administration claims (80% is not the correct figure). It's more likely these cartels with their vast resources are buy arms from state arsenals from around Latin America. Also they have fleets of aircraft, so overseas purchases aren't out of line either.

I some how doubt somebody is walking into a Arizona gun shop and buying 200 rifles. Oh wait it has happened. Someone working for the ATF!
 
If Bush were President, you wouldn't hear the end of it.

Pretty much...but regardless of who is in office this is an awful abuse and real laws were broken. This was a law enforcement operation to prove a political point.
 
Pretty much...but regardless of who is in office this is an awful abuse and real laws were broken. This was a law enforcement operation to prove a political point.

It was a scam in the hopes of doing away with the second amendment and evil guns.
 
Just when you thought it couldn't get worse ...


Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information


U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. He is also a top lieutenant of drug kingpin Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman and the son of Ismael "Mayo" Zambada-Garcia, believed to be the brains behind the Sinaloa cartel.

The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' "Operation Fast and Furious," except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States. Zambada-Niebla claims he was permitted to smuggle drugs from 2004 until his arrest in 2009.

Randall Samborn, assistant U.S. attorney and spokesman for the Justice Department in Chicago, declined comment.

The court in Chicago had a status hearing on Wednesday and ordered the government to respond to allegations in Zambada-Niebla's motion by Sept. 11.

According to the court documents, Mexican lawyer Humberto Loya-Castro, another high-level Sinaloa cartel leader, had his 1995 U.S. drug-trafficking case dismissed in 2008 after serving as an informant for 10 years for the U.S. government.

Guzman and the Zambadas allegedly provided agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration, FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement with information about other Mexican drug traffickers through Loya-Castro.

"Loya himself continued his drug trafficking activities with the knowledge of the United States government without being arrested or prosecuted," the court documents state.

Zambada-Niebla met voluntarily with U.S. federal agents on March 17, 2009, at the Sheraton Hotel in Mexico City, which is near the U.S. Embassy, "for the purpose of his continuing to provide information to the DEA and the U.S. government personally, rather than through Loya," court records allege.

"DEA agents (then) told Loya-Castro to tell Mr. Zambada-Niebla that they wanted to continue the same arrangements with him as they had with Mr. Loya-Castro."

Five hours after the meeting, Mexican authorities arrested Zambada-Niebla and extradited him later to the United States. His father and Guzman are fugitives.

The court documents also allege that the U.S. government is using a "divide and conquer" strategy, "using one drug organization to help against others."

Zambada-Niebla's motion seeks U.S. government records about the 2003 Juárez case involving an informant who participated in several homicides for the Carrillo-Fuentes drug cartel, while under ICE's supervision.

He also requested records about the ATF's "Operation Fast and Furious," which permitted weapons purchased illegally in the United States to be smuggled into Mexico, sometimes by paid U.S. informants and cartel leaders.

"It is estimated that approximately 3,000 people were killed in Mexico as a result of 'Operation Fast and Furious,' including law enforcement officers in the state of Sinaloa, Mexico, the headquarters of the Sinaloa cartel," the court documents allege. "The Department of Justice's leadership apparently saw this as an ingenious way of combating drug cartel activities."
 
They were all going to vote for McQueeg until he picked Sarah Palin; he turned a victorious landslide into defeat with her pick...



;) ;)
 
It would have been worth it had it worked. Hell if it works, aside from you don't know does anybody have any clue how they intended to trace these guns? Surely it was a little better thought out than if they have guns we can follow them with magic.
 
It would have been worth it had it worked. Hell if it works, aside from you don't know does anybody have any clue how they intended to trace these guns? Surely it was a little better thought out than if they have guns we can follow them with magic.

They couldn't trace the guns, they did not have the people in Mexico to do the job,read the links.
 
It would have been worth it had it worked. Hell if it works, aside from you don't know does anybody have any clue how they intended to trace these guns? Surely it was a little better thought out than if they have guns we can follow them with magic.

Are we talking gun-walking, cocaine-running, or the stimulus and QEII?



:devil:
 
Classic example of the loonie mantra quoted.



The classic loonie debate:

• loonie gang bang
• fault the source
• point finger elsewhere
• namecalling
• insult integrity and intelligence
• answer a question with another question
• refuses to read info stating already knows what's in it
• Deflect, Deny, Divert
• BLAME BUSH!

It's a pattern easily recognizable, used in varying degrees, simultaneously and/or one jab at a time

Make this a sticky.

I've identified another trait...incapable of understanding.
 
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